Gnani Purush Dadashri
Dear Mahatmas Who Seek Full Enlightenment
Dear Seeker of the Eternal:
The One whose darshan is possible with punyai of infinite life times, whose Gnan grants one final liberation in one more life time, such a Gnani Purush’s unprecedented Centennial Celebration Occasion has arrived. This is a heartfelt invitation to all of you to come and participate in devotional worship, darshan, Gnan and the experience of extraordinary divinity.
With the sense of Oneness with all,
Jai Sat Chit Anand
AtmaGnani Shri Deepakbhai Desai has been spearheading the Mission of The Gnani Purush since March 19, 2006
AtmaGnani Dr. Niruben Amin made the world aware of the Akram Vignani and headed the Mision between Jan 2, 1988 till March 19, 2006
this Kalikal—current era of the time cycle of strife and tension, all living
beings are stuck in temporary pleasure-pain states, and their condition is like
a sweet potato being roasted in a hot charcoal pit. For the salvation of such
human beings, the Self expressed spontaneously in full glory within the bodily
temple of Shri Ambalal Muljibhai Patel of Bhadran, Gujarat, India in June 1958.
The fully enlightened Self within is referred to as ‘Dada Bhagwan’. After
that evening, Ambalal became Gnani Purush Dadashri and his satsang opened up the
new path of liberation called Akram Vignan. It took only an hour for this
science to manifest within him, and it brought final answers and closure to all
matters related to spirituality. Thus nature presented the phenomenal gift of
Akram Vignan at the feet of the world. In this Kalikaal the extraordinary wonder
of total reverence and worship for an ordinary householder—not an ascetic-renunciate—arose.
A Gnani manifested in the attire of a family man, who commenced giving the
phenomenal knowledge of the Self—Atmagnan to the world, thus becoming the
absolute nimit—evidence in turning
people to the path of liberation. Thus he made extraordinary contribution in the
service of jagat kalyan salvation of
Krishna has said, “Gnani Purush is verily my Soul.” Shrimad Rajchandra has
also said, “Gnani Purush is verily the absolute Self--paramatma in
human form.” Dadashri always used to say, “I am a Gnani Purush and the One
manifest within is the Lord of the fourteen worlds, He is the fully enlightened
Lord at three hundred and sixty degrees. Because of the current era of the time
cycle, absolute enlightenment for me stopped short by four degrees at three
hundred and fifty-six degrees.”
spite of holding such a lofty status, he never exercised his superiority.
He never became a guru of anybody, he remained as a disciple of the whole
world. With total laghuttam bhaav—I am inferior to all, he remained in swaparinati—as
the Self, and in the state of niralumb—absolutely independent within, and by fulfilling an
ideal worldly interaction vyavahar,
completed an unparalleled example for the world.
had only one burning desire that, ‘May the whole world attain this bliss that
I have attained.’ With infinite
compassion he used to say, “ It is hard to see all this suffering humanity. My
deep inner intent is that may all living beings of the universe attain peace and
happiness. May many people attain moksha—final liberation from the
cycles of birth and death. I will go to moksha after sending all these people to
moksha. However, in fact moksha is my constant experience right here.” We have
just one wish—let the world attain salvation. He used to say, “Half the
world will attain salvation through me and the other half will attain salivation
through my followers.” We have attained salvation, now it is worth nurturing
the intention for salvation of
humanity at large. Let us all have this prayerful intent—bhaavna , the
rest will be done by nature.
Gnani Purush, the purna absolute gnanavatar human being laden with
Gnan—Self-knowledge, ocean of compassion and embodiment of love has brought
the end of wandering in infinite cycles of birth and death in just one hour.
Even as we go about in our worldly ways, we have been established in the
experience of liberation. How can we express our gratitude towards such a
supreme Soul? This Gnani Purush who does not have any spruha—
inclination for anything worldly has given us such a precious and invaluable
thing, that there is nothing in this world that we can pay back. So now what
should be our sincere duty? We can surrender our mind, body and wealth with
absolute humility and become nimit—instrumental
evidence in jagat kalyan—salvation
of the world. Let us take this privilege and be blessed by paying our debt as
per our capacity in the united charity towards this mission of salvation of the
world of Lord Simandhar Swami by helping spread Dadashri’s Akram Vignan all
over the world.
hundred years have passed since the birth of the Gnani Purush. Kartak sud
Chaudash, Friday, November 23rd 2007 is the 100th
anniversary of absolutely graceful supreme Self Dada Bhagwan who resides within
all of us. A century has passed and such a wonderful bheda vignani—the
one who knows and is able to separate the Self from non-Self, completed his task
of salvation of the world and made an external farewell. But has he really gone?
Let us remember the security that he has given to us, “This bubble
of bodily form may burst tomorrow, but this Dada in the form of the Agnas
will remain continuously with you. ‘We—the Gnani and the fully
enlightened Lord within’ are not going to go anywhere. ‘We’ will take a
seat in your heart.”
Kavi has sung, “Dada kaiye gyaa ja nathi pan
rudiyama beeraje chhe. Maari andar behi gelaa Dada Bhagwan bole chhe. Dada
Bhagwan Na Aseem Jai Jaikar Ho….”
“Dada has not gone anywhere, He resides in the
heart. Dada Bhagwan within is speaking. Infinite glory to the Lord within
This whole year we will be celebrating birth
centennial and golden jubilee of Self-enlightenment of Param Pujya Dada Bhagwan.
So on this occasion let us all get together and fulfill the goal of salvation of
the Soul more and more throughout the world. Let us celebrate and sing all
Dada Bhagwan ni somee janmajayanti,
avasarne umangthi, madde zankhee purna poonamni,
bhooto, na bhavishyati aa anupam premal murti..
Let’s celebrate 100th birth anniversary
of Dada Bhagwan,
joyously celebrate this occasion with showering flowers and devotion, we get
glimpses of a full moon, Never in past, never in future this unparalleled
embodiment of love………”
~ Deepak Desai
AtmaGnani Deepakbhai Desai has been spearheading The Mission of Gnani Purush Dadashri since March 19, 2006.
AtmaGnani Pujya Dr. Niruben Amin introduced Dadashri to the World and fulfilled His Mission spearheading it in new dimensions
from January 2 1988 till March 19, 2006.
1: If a single word of The Gnani Purush enters into samaj—real understanding then salvation is accomplished.
The right belief—I am the Self, is attained only from an Atmagnani Purush.
With this right belief—samkit worries and externally induced
suffering—upadhi does not arise.
3:The one who does not have the
slightest ego is a Gnani Purush.
4: This Akram Vignan exists just like Kramic Vignan. Akram Vignan does not exist in books. It lies in the heart of the Gnani.
5: What defines the Gnani Purush? It is he who
remains constantly in the effortless state.
6: The one who becomes free from all kinds of beggary
is bestowed the state of the Gnani.
7: The compassion of the Gnani is universal and it is there for every living being.
Gnani is the vehicle—sadhan for
liberation. The destination—sadhya through
this vehicle is the absolute Self.
The illusion of doer ship cannot be surmounted through one’s own efforts. Only
a Gnani Purush can dispel this illusion.
10: The world does not hinder you. Ignorance is hindering you. This ignorance leaves with the Gnan—Self-knowledge, which is obtained from the Gnani Purush.
The one who is devoid of kashaya—anger-pride-deceit-greed
is worthy of darshan—being seen with reverence. Such a one is verily a
Scriptures contain shabdaAtma—word associated Self, the real Self
exists in the Gnani.
Who is the mother of Gnan? Samaj—real understanding. Where can one
attain this samaj? Understand it from a Gnani.
Obstinacy—adai against the obstinate is the nature of the worldly self.
Yielding against obstinacy—sidha thavu is the nature of Gnanis.
Mukta hasya—the liberating laughter exists in the Gnani Purush only.
Where there is vitaragata—state beyond attachment and abhorrence, there
exists mukta hasya.
The Gnani Purush has known such a Self—Atma that it cannot hurt anyone
at all, even to the slightest extent. This is the definition of avyabadha
17: The Gnani Purush remains continuously as the
natural blissful Self and that verily is what brings us to the natural blissful
The Self—Atma is worth knowing, but this knowing is not easy. It can be
only known by the grace of the Gnani Purush.
Gnani Purush can accomplish anything, because he has no sense of doership—kartabhav.
He exists as nimitbhav—evidentiary doer.
After receiving Gnan, if one knows how to digest an insult, then he will
become a Gnani.
21: Gnani Purush is considered the Lord of the
universe, and yet there is not even a trace of egoism in him.
The greatest wonder in the entire world is the Self—Atma! The one, who
attains that, attains everything.
What is moksha—liberation? It calls for a fundamental change in
vision—drashtibhed. The Gnani Purush does this for you.
Scriptures contain religion, but they do not have marma—real meaning
and message. This marma exists in the heart of the Gnani.
The one who remains continuously as the gnata-drashta—knower-seer is
On the Ocassion of the 100th Birthday Of The Akram Vignani The Matchless Gnani Purush Dadashri The Following
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After the enlightenment in 1958 the Gnani Purush was discovered in 1962.
Thereafter, continuous Satsang happened in the presence of Gnani Purush Dadashri. Here is an example :
Never Will The World Forget This
Matchless Gnani Purush
‘We’ Got Chosen For This Greatest
Feat of Akram
Questioner: You move around in a liberated state but how did you acquire that siddhi—spiritual energy that accomplishes the goal?
‘We—the Gnani Purush and the fully
enlightened Lord within’ did not acquire this, this is greatest attainment
that happened. ‘This is but natural.’ (Exact words of Dadashri) This Gnan
manifested when I was sitting on the bench amidst the very busy crowded station
of Surat in 1958. People ask me how I
attained this Gnan. I tell them that this is not something that can be imitated,
if that indeed was what they were trying to do. This phenomenon occurred
naturally. It was but natural. If this were something that could be imitated
then I would tell you exactly how I achieved it. But the route I had taken would
not yield such a magnificent spiritual reward. My expectations were only for
about five percent; actually not even five percent spiritual reward. I was
hoping that I would receive at least one percent reward from all my efforts.
You say that Gnan manifested ‘but natural,’ please explain that? Please
explain how it happened.
I have to say ‘but natural’ for
people to understand but it happened as a result of many scientific
circumstantial evidences coming together. ‘But natural’ happens very
rarely to someone. If someone claims, “I did it myself,” then that Gnan
remains incomplete. This Gnan has happened naturally and spontaneously.
Had I done it, if the vikalp—‘I am Chandulal—ego’
decreased by 80%, then 20% would have remained. But this is 100% nirvikalp—the
ego less state; this is vitarag—devoid of attachment and
abhorrence vignan—science. There were all kinds of evidences; the time must have been right
for the salvation of the world. Once that happened, an instrument was then necessary to present it to the world.
you feel, ‘I have attained this Gnan’, when it happened?
Dadashri: What? Did I realize it? At that time, I experienced boundless
bliss as if I was sitting in Siddha gati (the ultimate location at the
crest of the universe where the fully enlightened Self without a body resides),
so why would I not realize it? Even sitting on the bench I experienced the bliss
of Siddha gati! The gentleman who was in my service sitting next to me at
the time also attained moksha—liberation without any effort. This Akram
which has manifested is something exquisitely amazing!
Questioner: Akram Gnan is the result of how many previous lives’ spiritual
the balance and extract of many previous lives. As a result of them all, this
Akram Gnan has manifested naturally. I did not know that such Gnan would
manifest. I did not think that such thing would happen to me. I would not have
such a thing even in my imagination. I
thought I would have some light of the Self, so I will have some peace. But
instead such a phenomenal spiritual universe unfolded!
is going to happen to many human beings. The reason is that if any time has ever
happened for a simple and easily attainable path of liberation, then, that time
has happened now. Hindus, Parsis, Muslims, everybody got benefit. It is not such
that someone will find it unsuitable. It suits everyone!
State At The Time Of Gnan
Questioner: Please tell us more about your state at the time of enlightenment?
external state was the same. There is no method of this way or that in this. And
oh…the inner veils get shattered. The avaran—the
veil of illusion, was removed completely. When you get entangled, do you get sooj—insight
that clarifies, within or not? Likewise, when the veil shattered, the total
awareness—khyal opened up.
The Shore Of Gnan
What was your experience at the time Gnan happened to you?
entire ego dissolved. I felt that I had crossed from this shoreline to that
shoreline. I felt like I had crossed over from the shore of agnan
Self-ignorance to the shore of Gnan. And ah! The air over there! The ego left
permanently! Even if you try to look for it, you cannot find it! All the
questions of the world unfolded. No
puzzle of any kind remained. Who is God? How does this world run? How is karma
bound? What is Devgati—celestial realm? I ‘saw’ this within one
hour. Everything changed so would not I understand that such a big change had
occurred! And the bliss that I experienced would never leave again!
How long did that state (the enlightening process) last?
Dadashri: It lasted only for an hour. In that hour, the entire
vision became exact. Then I could see all the changes that had occurred. The ego
within was gone from its very roots. All remnants of anger, pride, deceit and
greed departed. I had never expected anything like this.
That Day ‘I’ In A Separate State Altogether
Please explain the event of your enlightenment at Surat station? How did you
feel at that time?
How much experience I can tell you? I
experienced bliss; the world became oblivious at that time. There was no change
in the feelings within. I had gone to Songadh and Vyara by the Tapti Railway
line on business. While returning I had stopped at Surat station. Along with me
was another gentleman, who always accompanied me. In those days I used to have
my dinner before sunset, so I finished my dinner in the train and at six
o’clock we disembarked the train at Surat station. That gentleman took the
dirty dishes to clean while I sat alone on a bench alone. It was then that the
enlightenment and Gnan manifested. This Gnan, ‘what is this universe? How
does it function? Who runs it?’- its entire account was ‘seen’ by me.
It was on that day when all traces of my egoism disappeared. From that
day onwards I began to live in a different state altogether, without egoism and
without mamata—myness. A.
M. Patel- the non-Self remained the same, but ‘I’ the Self became
established as the Self, entirely different and separate. From that day onwards,
I have not experienced anything but constant samadhi, bliss of the Self.
Inexpressible Experience Of The Original
that time I was filled with spontaneous and sudden vast inner
manifestation-expressions--sphurana and the awareness—khyal ‘I
am Ambalal’ vanished totally, and awakened awareness—jagruti increased
to such an extent that the entire universe became lit within. And I saw the
entire universe, ‘who is the doer of this, how the world runs, how did it
arise, who is God, who is nimit evidentiary doer, What are the births,
what are avatars—life after life re-entry, who are these relatives, who
are you, who am I, what is the basis on which one meets all these in life,’
all these questions were resolved completely. I ‘saw’ the entire analysis in
one hour and infinite bliss… unending bliss was experienced and this bliss was
absolute! Thereafter, all puzzles were solved! The scriptures do not describe
everything in its entirety. Only
that which words permit is described in the scriptures. There is a lot more to
the universe, it is beyond any words; it is way beyond words.
what unfolded and what I have understood—samajaya (real darshan)
is not expressible in speech. You will understand that when you experience that
yourself. However I am trying to explain all this in words to you. You will not
be able to comprehend the original vastu—element-the Self at all. The
reason is that there are no words there. It cannot be describe specifically
through speech. I am just trying to express in words as much as I can
externally. It is not the original vastu. That you can know only when you
Manifested In The Solitude Amidst Multitude
The direct inner light that you experienced at Surat station, did it occur
suddenly on its own?
Yes, it happened suddenly. After that I saw everything completely,
and everything changed.
Yes but at that time the people around were the same people, were they not?
Yes, but after that I could see the external packing (bodies) of people as well
as the internal content, the pure Soul within. There are
varieties of packaging but the content is the same! Therefore, the entire
world appeared completely different to me.
In one of the spiritual hymns it is written: ‘bhidnu ekant aney kolahalma
shukladhyan--solitude amidst multitude, and the mediation as the Self amidst
a noisy environment filled with hustle and bustle. Please elaborate on that.
‘Solitude amidst multitude’, means that man cannot experience solitude in a
solitary environment, because of the mind. Hence, solitude amidst multitude!
Then, bliss of the Self arose in a noisy bustling environment. On this
other side oh ho ho! There was such hectic activity and noise on the railway
station, and I was in the bliss of the Self.
I saw the whole universe in the Gnan, as it is!
darshan—inner vision that opened for you at Surat station in 1958,
what and how was it?
I felt as if I became free from this body.
How did that separation feel?
Absolute separation, it was a completely different state. It cannot be
Did you feel that something was going to happen prior to that moment?
I was experiencing much peace—shanti. But, that peace was associated
with the ego and it is of no use. Even non-Self-realized—agnani people have that peace.
At that time on the station, was the bliss—anand you
As gnata—knower drashta—seer with absolute bliss—param
anand, I became separate along with all the attributes (of the Self). Not in
the mind, not in the body, not in the speech, that is how separate I became.
That is called attaining-receiving—ladhyu Gnan.
Gnan verily is the Self.
After the Gnan manifested in you, does that light of Gnan remain the same or
does it continue to increase?
Dadashri: ‘Our—the Gnani and the fully enlightened State
within’—Gnan is ‘the
experienced Gnan—anubhavgnan’ in which there cannot be two
kinds of light; there is constantly one kind of light only. ‘We’ have
clear—spashta experience of the Self. Gnan continues to increase until one
attains the clear experience. With the clear experience the Gnan becomes
Did pudgal--the non-Self complex seen as ‘living’ body that forms and
disintegrates—experience the Self? Who experienced that?
the one who is the ‘I am’, knew the Self, nothing else. The one who used to
believe the non-Self to be the ‘I’, now came to know that, ‘I am this, not
that.’ The separation happened.
Desire Left Even To Remember The Date
Dada on what date did this Gnan manifest?
The year was 1958 but I didn’t know at the time that it would be important to
remember the date or that someone would ask me about the date. All I knew was
that all puzzles were solved.
But now, will you not have to place upayoga—focused awareness and find
No, it will happen on its own accord if it was meant to be discovered. Why
should I bother with it? It was between the rainy season and the summer. It was
June. I did not pay much attention to that. The enlightenment was all I cared
about at the time.
Understanding of Kram and Akram
Did the Gnan manifest within you because of your past spiritual endeavors in the
Yes, everything I did was only on the Kramic path, but the fruit it gave was that of Akram-step-less
path of Self-Realization, requiring no rituals or austerities. However, I failed
at the level of Keval Gnan -Absolute enlightenment. That is why this
science of Akram unfolded
for the world.
Please explain further details of this Akram Vignan that has come into current
existence through you.
The ‘full stop’ ‘.’ of the ego, is Akram
Vignan. The ‘comma’ ‘,’ of the ego is the Kramic
Gnan path. Akram Vignan
is the internal science, which takes one to one’s eternal bliss and
therefore, is also known as the ‘science of the Self—Atmavignan.’
The other is the ‘science of the external—bahyavignan’, the
non-Self. It gives temporary happiness. Ultimately, the external science
perishes and brings about destruction, whereas the internal science is
eternal—sanatan and therefore it promotes the eternal.
How is this Akram path different from the Kramic path?
means one has to climb one step at a time. As one’s parigraha--acquisitiveness
diminishes, one progresses farther towards moksha--liberation. This takes
innumerable lifetimes. But this is Akram Vignan. There is no need to climb
steps. One simply has to get on the elevator and go to the twelfth floor. Such
an elevator-lift path has come about. Those who have entered this elevator-lift
have attained their salvation. I am
simply nimit—instrumental evidence. Anyone that boards the elevator
will have all the answers.
is because of Akram Vignan that samkit—the
sate with the right belief, ‘I am pure Soul,’ is attained in such a short
time. In these times, it is impossible to attain this state of samkit through
the traditional Kramic path.
Akram Vignan is the
science, which draws an exact line of demarcation between the Self—Atma and
the non-Self—anatma. I do this for you within one hour.
After this, You will feel that you have attained Your safe-side. If you struggle
to do this yourself, you will not accomplish that in a million lives.
Your Work Done
are not the Lord—Swami of salvation of the world; ‘we’ are merely
instrumental in the process, and those who have the punyai—merit
karma effects, will reap the benefit without doing anything. This Akram
path is the result of one’s own good deeds, otherwise where can one even dream
of an Akram path? Only later, when people read about Akram Vignan in the history
books, will they wonder whether they were around during the time this Akram path
was active. Then upon further investigation, he would discover that he was too
busy building high-rise apartments. All other circumstances may come together,
but it is not possible for one to become established on this Akram path. The
circumstances that come together here are that of the eternal—sat.
This, one will realize only the day after one receives the Self in the Gnan
We now understand that this path of yours is an extraordinary path.
this world! Very alaukik! Such a personification of Gnan- a phenomenal
human being—gnanvatar arises
once in a million years. Here one can attain moksha—liberation
within an hour. Here, therefore, we have to get our work done. So get your work
done. This is the place, which is worth of getting your work done. This is not a
religion. There is not mandan—the beginning of an establishment that
will bring its inevitable conclusion—destruction. If we do mandan here then we have to destroy—khandan someone else’s
path. Here there is no mandan—begin anew or khandan—destruction.
Here pure Bhagwan—fully enlightened
Lord has manifested within. Here let as many people who may attain salvation,
Not Meet Or Make Any Guru in This Life
Will you tell us about your guru, please?
A guru—spiritual master is only a guru
if you meet him directly face-to-face in this life. I did not meet any such
person in this life. I met all kinds of saints, but none worthy of taking up as
a guru. I had a lot of spiritual
discussions with them and had served them but none were worthy of becoming my guru.
I did read about all the human beings who became Gnanis,
but I never met any of them.
Rajchandra cannot be considered a guru
for me because I did not meet him personally. I had taken support of his
writings along with some other writings, but his writings were the greatest
support for me.
used to read books by Shrimad Rajchandra, scriptures about Lord Mahavir and about Lord Krishna’s message in the Gita,
in addition to volumes of Vedantas and
the works of Lord Swaminarayan and of the Moslem religion. I discovered what
they were all are experiencing within and what they were trying to convey. From
their own perspectives, they are all correct. Within their own degrees of
spiritual vision, they are all correct. The total perspective is three hundred
and sixty degrees. Some have a vision of fifty, some at hundred, some at a
hundred and fifty. They are all correct. However, no one has three hundred and
sixty degree vision. Lord Mahavira had three hundred and sixty degree vision. At
360 degrees one is fully enlightened and this Patel is at 356 degrees. He lacks
four degrees. That is why he is different. Otherwise, he too would have been
World Is The Puzzle Itself
which accepts 360 degrees is called Gnan. ‘We’ accept all 360 degrees. That
is why ‘we’ are Gnani. ‘We’
are am sitting in the center and that is why ‘we’ are able to show you the
facts. By fact God is not at all the creator of this world. This world has not
been created by anyone. So how did it come into existence? ‘The world is the
puzzle itself.’ (Exact sentence of Dadashri) We call it a puzzle because it
has become puzzle-some. The world has formed itself. ‘We’ have seen this in
our Gnan (absolute knowledge, absolute vision and absolute experience). There is
not a single parmanu—subatomic particle- in this world that ‘I’
have not traversed through. ‘I’ am telling you this by living in this world
as well as living outside it.
ones who can solve this puzzle are granted the degree of the supreme Soul parmatma, and those who cannot have become dissolved within this
puzzle. I have solved this puzzle and attained the status of the supreme Soul. I
see the chetan—Self and the achetan—non-Self as separate.
Gives Introduction Of ‘Dada Bhagwan’
Why do they address aapshri—your reverence, as ‘Dada Bhagwan’?
do you recognize when you say aapshri--‘you’? Are you talking about
the one you see? You recognize only
him, do you not? The person you see is a Patel from the town of Bhadran and he
runs a construction business. ‘Dada Bhagwan’ is the Self—Atma that has manifested within. People of the world refer to this
as pragat Purush—manifested Self.
What is visible is Ambalal Muljibhai Patel and the one residing within is
‘Dada Bhagwan.’ He is the Lord of the fourteen worlds. So such a Lord is
manifested here that you have never heard of before.
So ‘Dada Bhagwan’ is separate. I am separate. I
bow to ‘Dada Bhagwan’, because I have to complete three hundred and sixty
From the time this Gnan manifested, I have never
become one with Ambalal Muljibhai even for a moment. Since the onset of Gnan,
“This is my first neighbor.”
people would not understand this subtle distinction, which is why I have to say
that, ‘Dada Bhagwan’ is manifest. Very rarely does the Lord of the fourteen
worlds manifest. I say as I ‘see—joyeeney.’ That is why I am
telling you to get your work done!
Definition of ‘Dada Bhagwan’
What is the swaroop—innate
form of ‘Dada Bhagwan’? It is in the form of Gnan – Self-knowledge, darshan
Self-vision, charitra Self-conduct and tapa
invisible penance. That which is experienced on the basis of all these, is
The rest is this Patel. This bubble-physical body of
A. M. Patel- may burst tomorrow and people will burn it but no one can burn
‘Dada Bhagwan’ because fire is gross and the Atma—the Self is
subtle. How can the gross burn that which is subtle? Similarly Dada Bhagwan in
the form of Gnan, darshan, charitra
and tapa, resides within you too. That is what You verily are!
Those Two Are One And The Same
All these people are chanting, ‘Dada BhagwanNa Aseem Jai Jaikar Ho—Glory
to the Eternal Lord within’, in this how do you give introduction of
real Dada Bhagwan, who the owner of the entire world, the Lord of the world, is
the one we are referring to. Not this Dada Bhagwan (worldly A.M.Patel), Dada
Bhagwan is the one that has manifested within, the Lord of the fourteen Worlds,
I too bow to the Lord and this is the cash bank! One reaps fruit instantly as he
When we were all chanting, ‘Dada
Bhagwan Na Aseem Jai Jaikar Ho’, you too were chanting something. Whose
name were you chanting?
I too was chanting the same. I too bow
down to Dada Bhagwan. Dada Bhagwan is at 360 degrees and I am at 356 degrees. I
lack four degrees and that is why I too sing that. I commenced it, so that
others will do the same. They too are lacking. Are you not lacking in degrees?
Ultimate Liberation Through The Darshan
Of Simandhar Swami
What is the relationship between
‘Dada Bhagwan’ whose name you make us chant and this Simandhar Swami?
Ah ha! They are the same but the
reason I am telling everyone about Simandhar Swami is because I still have a
physical body and I too have to go there. Without the darshan live meeting with Simandhar Swami one cannot attain
liberation. There is one more life to live. Liberation can only be attained by
the darshan of the one who is
liberated. Actually, even I am liberated, but he is absolutely-completely
Gnan is at the level of three hundred and fifty six degrees; we have to go there
to add other four degrees. ‘We’ can give as much ‘we’ have. There is no
other Gnan left for you to take. We have given complete Gnan. We can become just
like Lord Simandhar Swami by doing His darshan
only, by looking at his worldly form, that’s all. Only His darshan
Can You Consider A Gnani?
How do you define a Gnani?
A Gnani can be found
where there is constant light. He is the personification of knowledge. A Gnani
knows everything. He is
the one who has nothing more left to know. ‘Gnani’
means complete light; complete light means there is no trace of any
Gnani is to be found once
in a while. To become a Gnani is
a natural adjustment. It just happens. No one can become a Gnani
on his or her own. A
Gnani Purush is ‘separate-free from thoughts-speech and acts, liberated--mukta
and one of a kind--ajod. No one can compete with a Gnani. This is because
he does not enter into competition with anyone. Such a Gnani Purush who remains
in constant experience of the eternal sat,
is present only once in awhile as a gnanavatar—eternal Gnan expressing
in human form. He does not remain forever, and that is why such a one is very
rare, very rare, very rare.
Introduction of The Gnani
How can we recognize a Gnani Purush?
every word is a scripture, if one understands.
The conduct of the Gnani, his speech and his humility are such that they
win your mind. He has many unique qualities.
Purush does not have even a drop of intellect. The Gnani Purush is abuddha without intellect. Now how many such people are around? Once
in a while when such a person is around, he will liberate hundreds and thousands
of people. The Gnani Purush does not have even the slightest ego. There is not a
single person in this world that is ego-less. Only Gnani Purush would be without
ego. Not a cent of ego. He would not be the owner of body, owner of speech and
owner of mind. One has never heard such speech before at all. However all this
is not written in the scriptures. ‘We’ do not have intellect that is why it
is worth listening to each and every word of ‘our’s’ and that is the
reason why it is complete by one hundred percent. No one will be able to find
any error in this talk of ‘ours’ for thousands of years. The science of the
entire world is here. This is a science of all the scriptures. You can get the
solutions of all the scriptures of whole world here. Not only Vedanta, not only
Bhagwat Gita, but when all the questions of Muslims, Jains, every scriptural
problem are resolved, then the true matter is known.
every few thousand years or so, a Gnani
Purush is born. There is an abundance of saints and experts of
scriptures. The ones who have known the Self—Atmagnanis, move about in
absolute bliss and do not have an iota of dukha—suffering mental or
physical. In the presence of such a person, you too, can attain your
liberation. He who is realized can help others attain the Self.
Gnani Purush is a nimt-instrumental evidentiary doer,
that is why he is not a doer. That is why he can do everything. He is not
the doer so he can do whatever he wishes, because he proceeds as a nimit.
Works Through A Gnani
Gnani Purush is considered a wonder of the world. He is called a superior of
But how can he be called a superior of God? In what sense?
has become subservient to him, and therefore he is superior to God. God follows
the dictates of the Gnani.
Bhagwan who resides within, is my God too.
But He is denying taking the power of a superior, He says, “You are my
boss.” I said, “ How come?” Then He says, ‘You have worshipped me for
long time considering me as your superior. That is why now I have to appoint you
as my superior and now you do jagat kalyan
world’s salvation.” I said, “You go ahead and do the
jagat kalyan!” Then He says,
“How can I do salvation? I do not have speech or anything else.” So God gave
‘us’ the state of the superior himself. He said, “I was looking for a
qualified person, and that I could see in You. Now we are sitting in moksha
after becoming absolute vitarag absolutely
detached. Now we cannot do anything for anybody. Now in manifested form you are
filled with total energy. You are an absolute vitarag in spite of being in the flesh. That is why we are giving
you even our authority of the superior! And You do jagat kalyan!” So ‘we’ have become even a superior of God!
‘We’ are the boss of the Lord of the fourteen worlds. This personification
of knowledge gnanavtaar has manifested
with all the spiritual energies. Mooah!
(the classic Dada awakening term for the one who is destined to die) walk
off after kindling your lamp, do not waste your time teasing with the intellect.
Becomes Subservient to the One Without My-ness
do not have any superior. Even God, the fully enlightened One, is deferential
and pleased with me. Then what else remains for me?
tell me, “You allow others to call you ‘Dada Bhagwan’?” I tell them,
“No. Why would I do that? When God, the fully enlightened One within, is
deferential to me, then why would I have a need to be called Bhagwan
God? The ‘ruler’ of the fourteen worlds has become deferential and pleased
with me and your ‘ruler’ within too, will be pleased with you if you do what
I tell you. It is better to have the deference of the Lord within. What will
anyone gain from becoming a God? Let
him be the God, whoever he is. The ruler of the fourteen worlds has become
deferential with me and I am showing you the way in which you can attain the
same. There is great danger in becoming a God and I would invite tremendous
liability on my head. What do you have to lose? Why would I get into that? Why
would I want to do that? God has become deferential to me, what is wrong in
can become such that God becomes deferential to him. If a person has a little
ego there is no problem however the one in whom all mamata
‘my-ness’ is gone, God will inevitably become deferential to him. God cannot
be anything but deferential to the one whose mamata
is completely gone.
Between The Gnani and Dada Bhagwan
I am not able to understand who is the Gnani and who is Dada Bhagwan within you?
The one who speaks the sentences of Gnan, is
known as a Gnani in worldly interactions. These gnanvakyas—sentences of
Gnan will not come forth were it not for the One who has manifest within.
He that has manifested within is ‘Dada Bhagwan.’ I too want to
achieve that State and so I too bow down to ‘Dada Bhagwan.’
difference between a Gnani and Bhagwan-The Lord is that, a Gnani can
‘understand—samaj—inner vision—darshan’, can ‘see’
everything, but cannot ‘know—jaanavoo—experience’ everything
(like the fully enlightened Lord).
You are the Self —Atma, so then which part is Gnani within you?
This Gnani is to the extent
he has become a Gnani. If the Self has become of 356 degrees, the Gnani is at
356 degrees. The Self has expressed to
the level of three hundred and fifty six degrees so I am a Gnani of three
hundred and fifty six degrees. Atma—the Self is verily Gnani but the
veil has to be lifted. As the veil is lifted, if it is removed completely, then
this is three hundred and sixty degrees of expression, and the Self is fully
enlightened. If it removed upto three hundred and fifty six degrees then there
is veil of four degrees. You have a veil that is much larger. That veil over you
will be lifted slowly and steadily. The one whose veil is shattered is a Gnani.
It is because of the avaran—veil that he appears as an agnani—not
Three hundred and fifty six degrees is of antaratma
interim Self realized state, and three hundred and sixty degrees is of parmatma
absolute Self. After attaining this Gnan you are also antaratma and ‘we’ (referring
to the Gnani Purush and the fully enlightened Lord within)
are also antaratma. ‘Our’
level is at three hundred and fifty six degrees.
It is at the level of three hundred and sixty degrees in darshan
absolute understanding, keval darshan,
but it does not manifest in Gnan—knowledge of experience.
Is that the reason it is like this?
that state does not count, does it? Even then Shrimad Rajchandra—Gnani Purush
of the Kramik Path—said with open heart that Gnani Purush is verily the Self
with a body. Why did he say that? He did not say this to gain accolade. If you
pursue him, then you will accomplish your work otherwise you will not accomplish
at all. Except the manifestation of dehdhari Parmatma absolute Soul in human body, one can never
accomplish his task. He—The Gnani Purush is verily the absolute Soul in human
Lord Krishna has said, “The Gnani verily is the direct present living Self. He
destroys not only his own paap--demerit karma but he will destroy the paap
karma of others too.” That kind of Gnani Purush is here live in front of you.
Understanding Leads to Absolute Knowledge
have not kept much difference between you, me and a kevli Bhagwan- fully
enlightened Lord. Full enlightenment—keval Gnan is halted due to
Kaliyug-the current era of the time cycle characterized by lack of unity in
thoughts-speech and acts. I fell short by four degrees in attaining keval
Gnan. It is halted at three hundred and fifty six degrees. But ‘we’ give
you absolute Gnan in the Gnan Vidhi.
What are the four degrees that you lack?
Whatever you see in my conduct, the discharging illusionary attachment—charitramoha.
It is irrelevant that internally no illusion deludes me, but because
others see it as imperfection, these degrees are automatically deducted. I have
seen and understood the universe as it is, but I have not known and experienced
it as is needed for absolute enlightenment.
I do not understand what you mean when you say that you came to understand it
but you do not know and experience it.
What is this world? How did it come
about? How did the mind arise? Who is the ‘father’ and who is the
‘mother’ of the mind? What is intellect? What is ego? What is chit?
Why are people born? Who runs this world? Does God or someone else run this
world? Who are you? Who am I? All of this knowledge has come into my exact
understanding. Furthermore with my divine, inner vision, I see the Soul
everywhere, in every creature. All this has come to my understanding and that is
why it is called ‘keval darshan’, absolute understanding.
Is it possible to have keval
darshan without keval gnan’?
understanding keval darshan is not possible without absolute knowledge keval
gnan in Kramic path. In Akram path keval darshan happens and
thereafter it takes one to two lifetimes to attain absolute enlightenment keval
gnan. These are not the subjects of intellect. This is the subject of Gnan—experiential
knowledge beyond intellect, the state of the Self.
Compassion Of The Gnani
will meet everyone else in the world, but one will not meet this: ‘I’, Gnani,
Ambalal. (‘Dada Bhagwan’, Gnani Purush,
A.M.Patel—the three distinctions unfolded in detail by Dadashri in
1988). Who is the ‘I’? ‘I’ is ‘Dada Bhagwan’, I am Gnani Purush and
Ambalal is the Patel in front of you. This event is very rare, one will get all
other circumstances, not this one A living God who comes in front of you is
extremely rare. The one who has manifested, is the Lord of entire universe, I am
guaranteeing that. Whoever ever takes the opportunity of this connection will be
graced beyond imagination.
fact the separation into three—I, Gnani and Ambalal—is being done by me for
a reason. There is compassion behind it. Actually
there are only two: Dada Bhagwan and Ambalal. The reason to separate into three
is because human beings of this era are prone to suspicious intellect. Such
suspicion will only harass them and ruin their opportunity for salvation. To
prevent such suspicion the separation has been done. This division makes him
rest in peace. Now his madness will not arise. Krupadudev has said that the
Gnani Purush is verily the embodiment of absolute Self—dehadhari paramatma.
is relative and in the real there lies pure science. ‘We’ occupy two sides.
One is vignan swaroop—scientific Self and the other form is bavaswaroop—that
associated with Gnan—with discharge ego. Gnan is relative and viGnan is
real. Once this relative of ‘ours’—worldly interaction as the Gnani—ceases,
that other—the Vignan becomes complete. Relative completes in one or two life
times. This results in simultaneous expression of the fully enlightened
scientific Self. So ‘we’ are verily science, but at this time we are in the
form of Gnan.
Self: The Gnani Purush
means Atma—the Self. Vignan—absolute Gnan related science—means paramatma—absolute
Self, supreme Self. This is a science. The science of the Self and the supreme
Self is an incontrovertible principle--siddhant.
In that, not even a miniscule fraction of a change can occur, and it can
take one across to the other shore—salvation. Having attained the gnanghan—filled
with absolute knowledge only—Self, having attained the state of the eternal,
one should know the vignanghan. Vignanghan means, ‘I am in all.’ When
You ‘see’ that, then the Self is vignanghan—scientific process on
autopilot. Such a state is where despite being bound—thought-speech-action
mediated—one remains mukta—free! Gnani Purush is vignanghan Self.
He is not only in the ‘Theory of Absolutism, but He also is in the ‘Theorem
of Absolutism’. It is due to the awakening of the merit karma of the entire
world that this Akram Vignan has arisen, and vignanghan Self has
Through The Grace of The Gnani Purush
The Akram Gnan that you have laid forth, is fine for a Gnani like you, it is
easy for you. However, it is difficult for us ordinary people living a worldly
life and working. So what is the solution for it?
The Lord of fourteen worlds has manifested within Gnani Purush. What can you not
achieve when you meet such a Gnani Purush? You do not have to do anything with
your energy—shakti. It will all happen through his grace. Grace
accomplishes everything. Therefore, whatever you ask here, will be accomplished.
Gnan remains only with the Gnani then it will be buried-lost. Gnan has to be
revealed for sure. Rarely is the lamp that enlightens kindled. Until then
everything is pitch dark. This just happened that all the scientific
circumstantial evidences came together and Gnan manifested naturally at Surat
Railway Station. ‘This is but natural.’ So from that original lamp it is
possible to kindle as many lamps—souls as needed. Most have filled their divo—lamp
with a wick, with ghee—clarified butter. Only the kindling light’s
touch is needed.
Vignan Is For the People Having Tremendous Merit Karma
Dada, it is hard to swallow that one can attain this Gnan without doing
Vignan is always attained through the grace of a Gnani.
And even in Kramic path grace is a must. But in that path you have to
keep following the guru’s dictates. There is no doer-ship in Akram. In this
path it is verily Gnan, direct Gnan. That is why it becomes very easy. That is
why this path is called a lift path. A lift path, means one does not have to
make any effort. Just have to remain in Agna, so new karma will not charge.
After then everything will continue to discharge. It will continue to discharge
with the same intent--bhav as it was charged.
Gnan is not for everybody. It is for the people who have tremendous merit
karma—punyai. The fact
that this Akram Gnan arose, in this, there must be some punyai
merit karma of people, no? This
is for people with tremendous merit karma. The world will attain salvation
through the atmosphere of Dada and His mahatmas.
From All Miseries, ‘At the Feet of The Gnani’
have come to take away the miseries of the world. Keep your happiness with you.
Do you have a problem with that? If someone like you gives me money, what am I
going to do with that money? I have come to take away miseries. Keep your money;
it will be useful to you. In addition, there is no exchange of money where there
is a Gnani Purush. On the
contrary, he comes to take away your suffering, not increase them.
over your miseries to me and, if you have faith in me, they will not come back
to you. But they will if you lose faith in me. So if you have any miseries, tell
me, “Dada, I am surrendering my miseries to you.” If I take away your
miseries, then you will get somewhere, otherwise, how can you?
are advocating the destruction of all miseries. ‘We’ cannot bear to see
these miseries and suffering. Still ‘we’ do not become emotional seeing it.
By that much, at the same time, ‘we’ exist as the vitarag
too. Despite this, ‘we’ cannot bear to see the suffering of the other
person. This is because ‘we’ know ‘our’ limits of tolerance sahanshakti. ‘We’
know from ‘our’ own experiences and how ‘we’ dealt with pain and
suffering, so ‘we’ know what these people are going through. That verily is
the expression of ‘our’ compassion karunyata.
Vyavahar of The Gnani
Gnani Purush has the highest distinction between the swa—realm of the
Self and para—the non-Self. ‘Our’ vyavahar
worldly interactions are ideal even though we live in the worldly life. And our vyavahar
is ideal with all neighbors. Ideal interaction means the interaction, which is
defined by the Lord Mahavira. There is not the slightest deviation from that.
The only difference is that ‘we’ are in this—householder—attire. All
work is accomplished where the vyavahar—worldly interaction is ideal.
Without ideal vyavahar the nischaya—the realm of the Self
cannot become ideal.
Gnani Purush will not become weak at any place in vyavahar worldly interaction. He plays the exact role in any worldly
interaction. The one who never misses the drama (of life) is called a Gnani! At
any place, any time, whatever role ‘we’ have to play ‘we’ will play with
perfect acting. When we go to work there people will say, “Boss came, boss
came.” So there we would act as sheth
a boss. When we go to mosad—mother’s
hometown, then there every one will say, “Sister’s son bhanabhai
came.” So there we will act like bhanabhai.
If someone were to ask me in a train, “Who are you?” then I would reply, “
I am a passenger.” When ‘we’
enter the satsang group, then we play the role of a Gnani Purush. And when
‘we’ go in jaan- party of men and
women accompanying bridegroom to venue of marriage, then I would become a member
of bridegroom’s party. And if we go to a funeral ground, ‘we’ become a
pallbearer. There is not the slightest change in that drama and the acting would
be exact. He who is deficient in acting the role of the worldly drama is not a
‘our’ interaction is ideal. ‘Our’ interaction is such that world has
never seen it before. Our interaction is such that the conduct and humility wins
the mind of the other. No onehas been able to attain the Self by rejecting vyavahar
science does not reject the vyavahar
to the slightest extent. The siddhant—the principle that
accomplishes—lies in the fact that the science does not reject
vyavahar at all, and one
proceeds on the path of liberation with this siddhant. This therefore is
the real complete science.
Vitarag in Worldly Clothes
until the time of Lord Mahavira, there were ten wonders in this world, but now,
this Akram Vignani is the eleventh. The Gnani
Purush remains a vitarag-devoid of attachment and abhorrence- even
while he conducts business in the world. It is it indeed a wonder that you are
able to do such a darshan! See this? Just look at my topi cap and
my coat! Should a Gnani even
have a need for these? Why does he have an attachment to worldly things? The One
who has absolutely no desire for any material things, is trapped in worldly
things. He is in the final stages of becoming absolutely enlightened. It must be
people's misfortune that the Gnani is
dressed in ordinary worldly attire and not in the clothes of a sadhu a
renunciate. Otherwise millions of people would have been blessed if his attire
were that of the ascetic. Alas! People's merit karmas fall short, because they
fail to recognize me as a Gnani Purush.
Darshan Of A Vitarag In Kalikaal
I have read in the scriptures about who can be a vitarag the
and the description about the state of the vitarag, but I have never
seen a living vitarag.
You will not find one. You will not be able to do darshan of a vitarag. I
failed in the current era of the time cycle and that is why everyone here is
able to do the darshan see with
spiritual results. Otherwise, you will not even get to do darshan of the one who is very close to the Absolute state of full
enlightenment keval Gnan! It is because you are able to do the darshan
of the vitarag that you can understand the vitarag.
That is how ‘we’ remain.
Compassion Is a Thing To Behold
As a vitarag, what is your relationship with worldly interactions?
Vitarag bhaav, an inner intent without
any attachment or abhorrence. The inner intent of salvation of the entire world
is the vitarag bhaav. There is no other relation. The one you are questioning now
is not vitarag at the moment. I am a meddlesome vitarag;
meddlesome in the sense of wanting others to be free. The real vitarag do
not get involved with anything. They merely give darshan to people. They
do not have any dealings with people, none whatsoever.
But when the vitarag associates-connects with people, is it to discharge
and be done with his karma?
They do so to clear their own karmic accounts for the salvation of
people. They have no other inner intentions. My only intention is that people
attain liberation, the way I have. The real vitarags
are not like this. They have no inner intents or wishes. They are
absolutely unattached. I on the other hand, have just this one intent. That is
why I get up early in the morning and start this school of satsang, which
goes on until eleven thirty at night. Why do people suffer so much misery
needlessly? There is no misery and yet they are suffering so much. All their
suffering will disappear when they get rid of their misunderstanding. How will
the misunderstanding go? It will not happen by telling them anything. They have
to see an example in someone who has attained it. They have to be shown that it
can be done. Such a person is considered murta swaroop – the Lord in
human form. Such a person is an embodiment of faith; the one in whom people can
have absolute faith. It will only go when they actually see me, and my state.
So you are saying you are a meddlesome vitarag!
what else can it be called then? Meddlesome but we are vitarag. Find out a meddlesome one who is vitarag! Not a
single day has gone where the satsang has ended before 11:30 AM. There is
nothing new for ‘us’. And then
I get up 3:00 or 3:30 AM, after that ‘we’ would sit in padmasan—crossed leg
position for one and half hour and ‘travel’ around the world as ‘we’ do vidhis--Gnani’s
special inner prayers of worldy salvation. Then ‘we’ will go to sleep for a
little while around 5:30 to 6:00 AM so ‘we’ would sleep for thirty minutes.
In all this the body is pain free and easy.
Ardent Desire For Jagat Kalyan
pulls ‘Dada’s chain’(the analogy has come from emergency brakes in Indian
Railway trains) can accomplish his work. Because the birth of a
vitarag is very rare in this
era and in this era of the time cycle you cannot find an absolute vitarag
However, for all the souls jivas
‘we’ are verily an absolute vitarag.
We have attachment raag only with
‘our’ karma, just enough to clear that karma. And this little attachment raag
of doing salvation of the world jagat kalyan remains, and that is the
meddling which is not harmful, is
to two life times remain for us, so the interference khatpat—meddling
to wake up the spiritually sleeping humanity remains and therefore we are the
‘khatpatia vitarag.’! I
would tell people, “Please bring that fellow here. Do this and that. And the
full vitarag do not get involved with
anything. One becomes liberated by
His darshan only. One can achieve
salvation merely by doing darshan
of the Tirthankara. But one has to
know how to do the true darshan.
One’s spiritual profit is dependant upon how much he knows in this regard. That is it. He is the Vitarag. The one who has recognized and
known this vitaragata—the state of
the enlightened—then that state is his for the taking. The benefit is directly
proportional to this realization. They themselves do not interfere—step out of
the Self—in this. Their speech simply flows spontaneously and naturally. So
the Tirthankaras are not meddlesome. I am a meddlesome vitarag, so I say, “Bring that lady here for her benefit,”
because we know that this is not our final life. Therefore, I can say all these
things here. The Tirthankara would
not say, “there is no father—boss over you, and no one has been born to hurt
you in your life if it is not in your account.”
They do not utter such words. This is because for them it is, ‘those
who are ready for the final liberation, do the darshan
and attain; those who are not ready for moksha—liberation, so be
it.’ Whereas, for us here there is this residual insistence, ‘get your work
done—wake up, know who you are’. This is our khatpat—meddling and therefore we are called ‘khatpatia vitarag.’ How
can the humanity attain peace and salvation? It is for that only that I have
taken up the unflinching total resolve—bhekha. As a result eleven hours
a day pass in satsang.
Is The Reason For Meddling
Is intent of compassion karunabhaav
manifested within you?
karunabhaav, but meddling is there
for sure. Even Tirthankara Lords have karunabhaav.
But they will not utter even a single letter. If someone were to fall in a ditch
yet they will not speak. They can see in their Gnan, but will not say anything.
If that person becomes straightforward then they will give everything. And if he
becomes obstinate and unyielding then they will not speak anything at all. And
here if someone becomes hostile or obstinate then ‘we’ would say,
“Brother, why are you becoming hostile? Why? What lalacha intense greed do we have in this?’ We have one desire in
our mind that, ‘May everybody experience the bliss that we experienced. Become
free from these miseries.’” If any such desire is there, that means it is
meddling only, isn’t it? Is it not called a meddling? People do ask ‘us’,
“Are you a vitarag?” Then I said,
“‘We’ are ‘meddlesome vitarag’.”
And Lord Mahavira is not a meddlesome, He is absolute and pure vitarag! So he will not bother for you. He will do as much as it is
in His udaya karmic fruition only, but
our udaya would be meddlesome. Our udaya
would be with mixture and the udaya of
Lord would not have a mixture that is why ‘we’ are meddlesome vitarag.
Yes. Now I understood about meddlesome vitarag.
If ‘we’ are not meddlesome then how will it proceed? We make you eat jalebee—sweet
stuff and make you vitarag. Eat and
drink everything and enjoy and become vitarag.
How easy is this path! One is made vitarag on the straight and simple
If there is no meddling then it will not work, will it? And people of this time
are not easy to meet with, without meddling. If I had absolute vitaragata
then no one will meet me at all.
State Of A Gnani
The state You have, we do see but we are not aware of it with real understanding
khyal. How is that internal state of the absolute knowledge—absolute
Yes, only ‘we—amey’ would
know—experience that state. ‘I—hoon’ does not come out of samadhi the bliss of the Self, at all. Even at this time my samadhi
is continuously on. This Ambalal Patel is not ‘I’, this ego—ahamkar is not ‘I’, this chit
is not ‘I’, ‘I’ am beyond all these.
This shuddhaAtma—pure Soul
is also not ‘I’, shuddhaAtma is what all these folks have become. I
am not in the form of a word. I am as the exact swaroop Self form-state.
‘I’ am in niralumb—
without any dependency on anything that is in the relative, swaroop—Self
form-state, but I am short by four degrees. What is my desire until my four
degrees are completed? Only this much: May people attain the bliss that I have
are two kinds of Gnanis. One is the one who has attained shuddhaAtma—pure
Soul and remains as the Self, but this
state depends on word shuddhaAtma, and
the second kind of a Gnani would be niralumb—absolutely
independent. Tirthankara Lords are niralumb;
‘we’ are also niralumb. ‘We’
do not have shuddhaAtma
pureSelf state, in the form of word. ‘We’ are at the niralumb
Self state. Where there is no avlamban dependency
at all. The other one is dependent on the word and this one is independent
absolute state. This is the eleventh wonder!
Purush, having become absolute, has no concern with the issue of support or
dependency. Let there be the bhavna—ardent
desire for jagat kalyan—world
salvation, but He has become an absolute! Absolute means niralumb. He does not dependent on anything. Independent—swatantra
absolute, only the absolute kevadaja, there is no mixture with anything
have taken hold of the niralumb state,
that is why any worldly thing does not touch us or hinder us. So ‘we’ have
been in that state, niralumb. This
‘worldly position’ sthiti is such that ‘we’ do not have any
divisiveness due to difference of opinion matabheda at any place, nothing
of that sort. This is because no dependency will ‘touch’ ‘us’. ‘Our’
status is niralumb!
Therefore ‘we’ are able to understand that even at this dasha state
and stage- ‘we’ are able to remain niralumb—totally free from
anything of the relative—then how niralumb
Lords would be?
are totally niralumb. I stay amidst
everybody, I eat, drink, move, walk around, everything is there. In spite of
having this body ‘we’ can see and experience the state of niralumb and ‘we’ can experience the state of bondage too. We
are able to experience both situations. The ultimate thing is niralumb! Then only it is called moksha. This Akram Vignan is
such that one can become niralumb—absolute
independent state. Therefore whoever has bhavna—desire
for it can attain it.
Gnani is Always in the State of Swaparinati
Questioner: Dada, whenever we see you, you always appear free.
You are always in a good mood. What is the reason behind it?
Dadashri: Not even for a moment am I in the state of parparinati—state
of the non-self, I am always in swaparinati—state
of the Self. If only for an hour the
state of parparinati were to arise in
me, you would see a change on my face. The Gnani never has parparinati. It is a wonder of this world that he remains constantly
in the swaparinati state. Writers of
the Hindu scriptures have given a very high state to anyone who comes into swaparinati,
even for a moment. Krupadudev Srimad Rajchandra has said that the Gnani Purush
is the absolute Self in human form. Look
for a Gnani Purush who is walking around as a human being. Who is considered
a dehadhari paramatma the absolute Self with a body? It is the one
who has no parparinati; he is
constantly in a state of swaparinati.
A Gnani is always in swabhav parinati state of the Self. Any time day or night Gnani is
in swabhav parinati, they will not be
in parparinam the results or the
effects of the non-Self. The One whose speech, conduct and humility win
everyone’s mind, who is completely free from artadhyan—internal
suffering and raudradhyan—
internal suffering that affects and hurts others and there is muktahasya—laughter
that liberates due to the ego less state and tension free state. He is the
treasure-house of infinite
is in only one internal state parinati that
remains constant; ‘Dada’ is constantly in the eternal bliss of the Self.
Purity of The Gnani
I were to take money from people, people would give me as much as I wanted. But
what am I going to do with money? I have attained this state--pad only
after all such beggary bhikha left.
eat, drink, and wear clothes that I have bought with my own money that I have
earned from my business and whatever unfolds in my prarabbdha—karma
effects in this life. I do not take money from anyone and I do not wear anything
that is given to me by others. I have paid for this dhoti single piece
fine white lower garment that I wear, and I also pay for my own airline tickets
to Bombay. So why would I need money? How will people accept even a word of what
I say if I take a dime from anyone? So what I am saying is that the purer you
remain, the more the world will benefit from it.
Form Of The Gnani
In which stage-category do you place
yourself in all this?
I believe that I am a disciple of the
whole world and I am laghuttam swaroop smallest of all in the relative
realm. Besides this form, I do not
have any other form. And the Lord ‘Dada Bhagwan’ has manifested within.
is no one lower than I in the world; that is how laghuttam I am. One can
be elevated to the status of God if he becomes laghuttam. Still, I feel
it is very bothersome to become God, on the contrary, I feel ashamed. I do not
want that status. Why do I need that status? I am a Gnani, is this status of a Gnani any lesser? And I am a Gnani in the form of a disciple of the whole world. I am a
laghuttam Purush. What status can be greater than this? There is no
chance of falling from a laghuttam lowest state, which is how great this
'who' is this (in front of you)? It is a laghuttam Purush. How can you
have darshan of a laghuttam Purush? You cannot have such a darshan.
Find me a person who is laghuttam.
our Vignan-science, ‘Dada’ becomes your disciple. I have given Gnan to so
many people; I am the disciple of every one of them. I am a disciple of the
whole world. Who can become the supreme being of the whole world? The one who
has not become a disciple of the whole world cannot be the supreme most.
is worth making the entire world your guru–master.
One should get and achieve whatever gnan—knowledge that helps, from
wherever he can. ‘We’ are sitting here after having become a disciple of the
you enter the laghuttam ego, ‘how can I become smaller?’ then (Your) Gnan will blossom tremendously. A guruttam ego—‘I
am something, I am better, I know better, any emphasis on the worldly
‘I’,’—always brings a veil over Gnan
and a laghuttam ego will make it blossom.
World Will Only Accept A Disciple of the World
Has Dada made anyone his disciple--shishya?
Dadashri: I sit here as a disciple of the whole world. I am the disciple of
disciples. What do I need a disciple for? Why would I want to take on their
What will happen if you do not have any disciples after you?
There is no need for it. I do not have any disciples but there are many who will
cry and mourn.
But who will come after You when you are gone?
Time will show who that person is.
You say that there will be forty-to-fifty thousand who will mourn after you but
no disciples. So what are you saying?
I do not have any disciples. This is not a throne. If it were a throne, then
there would be an heir to it. If it was throne then people would come here to
become heirs, would they not? Here, only the one, who becomes a disciple of the
whole world, will succeed. Only he who the world accepts will succeed here.
The Link of Gnanis Will Continue
link of Gnanis will continue. Therefore seek a living Gnani. Without him, there
is no salvation.
I will personally help some attain siddhi—the
ultimate liberating principle. Will there not be a need for them, afterwards?
People of future generations will need the apth, will they not?
as the Laghuttam And the Guruttam
if ‘our’ liberation delays by one more lifetime, ‘we’ are not concerned,
but ‘our’ wish is that this Vignan be propagated and that the world should
benefit from it. That is why I have come to explain it. I have the time. I have
nothing to do. I do not have any problems because I am the idlest person in the
world and absolutely without any intellect. I am on my own and so I do not have
any hassles. You have many hassles.
Otherwise, I am no better than you are. Do you feel that? It is only for the
worldly interactions I am sitting on this high seat.
addition to that, do you know what my height is? Laghutam!
What does laghuttam mean? I am smallest, lightest of all the jivas
living beings in this world. That is my height. As far as the worldly life is
concerned, I am the smallest. When it comes to name, fame, looks, wealth, pride
etc., I am laghuttam - the lightest and from the perspective of the Self, I am guruttam
– heaviest, largest. Therefore, in the home department – the Self - I am guruttam and in the foreign department – the non-Self - I am laghuttam.
am in a laghuttam state and that is
why people will attain salvation. In the worldly sense, from the relative
perspective, I am laghuttam and in nischaya
– from the real or absolute perspective, I am guruttam.
I am nobody’s guru. I consider the
whole world as being my guru.
remain liberated and laghuttam. Still I
enjoy the grandeur of the guruttam
state. My appearance and conduct is laghuttam.
For the world I am the smallest; I am laghuttam
and for those who want to attain Gnan, I am the greatest, I am guruttam.
So, if you want liberation, I am guruttam
and there is no one higher than me. And if you want to be great in the worldly
life, then I am laghuttam.
Must Be Your Intent
I am not your superior. You are my superior. I have never thought myself as
being superior. You may scold me but I will not scold you. If I scold you then
it means that I am in the wrong. And if you scold me, it is because of a
misunderstanding on your part. You do it because there is weakness in you, is it
not so? Otherwise, the whole world is my superior because I am laghuttam.
laghuttam means to come down; that can
be done very effortlessly, can it not? ‘We’
did it very easily. So always, have an inner intent of laghuttam.
The more the inner intent bhaav
of laghuttam you have the greater will be your progress towards guruttam
the Self. And one attains a state of guruttam
only when one becomes laghuttam in the
am telling everybody that it will be all right if you are discourteous toward me
but I cannot do that. Because they are not aware of responsibility and I have
have never scolded anyone to this day. I tell everyone I am their disciple. By
the relative view point I am everyone’s disciple and that is, by the relative
viewpoint, I am laghuttam and by real view point I am guruttam. Therefore from the view point of the worldly interaction vyavaharik,
there is no one inferior to me, everyone is superior to me. And through the real
view point, the viewpoint of the Lord, there is no one superior to me.
remain laghuttam and keep abheda
drashti vision of oneness, with all living beings, the entire universe, is
verily the foundation of Akram Vignan. This Vignan is not without a foundation.
the worldly interactions vyavahar I am
laghuttam and in nischaya
the realm of the Self, I am actually guruttam.
No one is superior then ‘us’. God was superior, but God has become
deferential to ‘us’, after seeing ‘our’ bhakti—devotional
pirsuit. ‘We—A Gnani Purush’ and ‘God—fully enlightened Lord’ are
one ekakar and we are separate too,
thus ‘we’ exist in two different ways. In kevalGnan one becomes ekakar—one
a little while ‘we’ are ‘Dada Bhagwan’, for a little while ‘we’
enable this—Lord’s darshan, while one is chanting, Dada BhagwanNa
Aseem jai Jaikar Ho,’ remaining as the Self-God. That is why everyone
rocks with joy!
The State of The Gnani and You Will Become That
Self enlightenment in 1958) ‘I’ do not remain in this body even for a
minute; ‘I’ have not been in this body for a moment in the past twenty-five
years. ‘I’ remain absolutely separate from this mind, body and speech. So if
someone were to insult or strike ‘this’, ‘I’ will not have any problems,
will ‘I’? People do not know ‘me’ so how can they insult ‘me’? Those
who know me, know me as the Parmatma
Absolute Self, so they would never insult me or behave negatively towards me. People know me either as A. M. Patel or they know me as a guru.
But I am not any one’s guru.
I am a laghuttam Purush.
I am what people call a Gnani. As a Gnani, ‘I’ am absolutely laghuttam.
if you understand me as a Gnani, then you too will become a Gnani.
If you understand me as an acharya
spiritual master, then you will become an acharya.
I do not have any problems if you think of me as an acharya,
but you will become an acharya. So whatever state you desire to be, see me as being that
state and you will attain that state. I
do not want to become anything; I have already attained the state. A man who has
failed by four degrees! Having failed, I sit here as a laghuttam Purush. Therefore, this state of ‘ours’, however, one
understands it, ‘that’ he will become. If this talk is understood, then the
work is done.
There Is Total Laghuttam, There Is The Absolute.
one who has attained ‘devaluation’ in the relative, becomes absolute in the
real. Therefore, devaluation in the
relative is needed. There is no harm in devaluing the relative life.
On the contrary, there is nothing but gain.
You just have to live happily. Just
look at me. I am sitting here
having gone through the process of devaluation.
What fun it is.
what am I saying? Your absolute
state will blossom as your devaluation of the relative increases. So is this not
the easiest way? So when you
attempt to become laghuttam in the
relative life, then you will naturally become guruttam and absolute.
your worldly interactions, when you want to say anything, just keep in mind,
‘there is no jiva being smaller than
myself. I am the smallest’. If
you maintain this awareness, it is more than enough. If you become laghuttam
then only then will you attain the main state and only then will the state of
absolute Self Parmatma become yours.
Compassionate Speech of The Gnani
Your vitarag vani speech without any inner connection with the Self—appears
harsh on rare occasions. Why is that so?
Infinite compassion is ‘our’ state. I see everyone as nirdosh without
any fault, I have made my vision nirdosh flawless and through that vision
I see rest of the world as nirdosh. Seeing through tatvik drashti—the
inner vision of elements, no one is at fault. The circumstances are such, and
that is to be ‘seen’. But these stern words come out to rid
the person of his disease completely, and there is because of total
compassion for him. The Vitarag—the fully enlightened Ones have not scolded anyone. How
wise they are. The Vitarag Lords verily are not quarrelsome, even if a disciple
happens to betray them; they would not reprimand the disciple. We also have the
same goal, no? It just happened that this has come to my part! Twenty-four
Tirthankaras left the stock, ‘go ahead later on ‘Dada’ will come, so go
there’. Thereafter it came to our—the Gnani and the enlightened Lord
within—share of spiritual work. Behind our scolding lies pure natural
compassion. Our swabhav—the nature
of the Self—is vitarag—without any
attachment. ‘Jeva rogo teva aushadha,
Shreemukh vani zarate—as the diseases, so the medicines, the speech flows
through the divine mouth’, thus the speech comes forth according to the naimittic—instrumental
cause—interaction. This Gnani is a personification of compassion only. This is
karunyamurti an embodiment of constant
compassion! Yes, we should get solution by any means.
the vitarag unattached speech that
expresses forth through ‘us’, will clean up this mess. ‘We’ will not
have to go anywhere personally. People of foreign countries will look to India
as the spiritual center of the world and will come here to learn about true
religion. At that time we will not see any inner corruption in people, and all
will enjoy happiness never experienced before; the happiness will be like the
happiness of Satyug. The unparalleled spiritual realm of Lord Mahavira will
shine way beyond the realms of all the previous Tirthankaras!
is God like? He is anasakta—without any attraction. Nothing ever
Even the Gnani is anasakta?
Yes. That is why our love is constant
and the same everywhere. It is equal for everyone. My love is the same for those
who insult me and for those who shower me with flowers. There is no
discrimination in my love and where the love is not discriminating, the
intellect disappears. Love is when
there is no falling apart, no separation bheda. Oneness abhedata is
love. This is called love of normality.
undifferentiating—abheda love—prem takes hold, it means
intellect—buddhi ends and therefore the ahamkar—ego ends. Thereafter
nothing remains, and when there is no my-ness—mamamta
then only prem swaroop love-incarnate-state arises.
‘We’ are eternal love! ‘We’ have no my-ness—mamata for this
body, no mamata for this
speech and no mamata for
Real love never increases or
decreases. The Gnani’s love is such a love; it does not increase or decrease.
I have that kind of love for the whole world. That love is the Absolute Self.
pure love that you see of the Gnani Purush, the love that you see clearly, is
itself the absolute Self-Lord in human form. The pure love that you can see, the
one that neither increases nor decreases, the love that remains constant, is the
absolute Self. The Lord in human dehadhari paramata form is clearly
visible through this love. Gnan is the invisible paramatma absolute Self,
which takes some time to understand.
can one become pure love state—shuddha prem without the ego?
As long as the ego is present, there
can never be pure love—shuddha prem. Ego and pure love cannot co-exist.
When does pure love occur? It is when the ego starts to dissolve and only when
the ego completely disappears, that one becomes an embodiment of pure love prem
murti. The embodiment of pure love is the absolute Self. In the presence of
the absolute Self, one’s salvation is accomplished. The absolute Self is
impartial. It is beyond the scriptures. All the four Vedas say, ‘this is not
that’. It is the Gnani Purush that says, ‘this is that!’ The Gnani Purush
is pure love and he can give you the Self right away.
world is run by infatuation and attraction asakti. The only ones with
real love prem are the
Gnanis and the fully enlightened Lords. They have the license of love. Their
love makes people blissful. This love creates a permanent bond between them.
Their love is beyond this world. There is no hint of worldly love in it.
is nothing in this world that makes the Gnani happy! Only your love makes him
happy, because he is the only one with real love. The Gnani has nothing to offer
you but love. Hiss love is for the entire world.
What is the
relationship between love and compassion?
Love and compassion are different.
Compassion means a generalized awareness of suffering of the entire humanity.
This is a type of grace. Love is different. Love is the vitamin for the Self.
People have taken a lot of vitamins for the body, but they have never taken the
vitamin for the Self. When one tastes pure love, the atma vitamin, atmavirya
the inner energy of the Self expresses, atmaaishwarya Self energies
evident to the world arise.
pure Self is the original life force element—shuddha chetan and is the
pure Soul shuddhaAtma, and that is parameshwar
the supreme God. When will one remember His name? Only when one gains some
benefit from Him, and then only will one feel some love for Him. If love arises
for anyone, his name has to come in front of you, and then you can say his name.
So one has to meet someone for whom one feels such love. Then only he will
remember him. Do you remember ‘Dada’?
That means you love me that is why you
remember me. Now, why did the love arise? It has arisen because ‘Dada’ has
given something that has blossomed this love. Once this love starts to grow, you
will never forget it! You will never have to make an effort to remember Him.
This love that we feel for you Dada..
It is ‘our’ love that grabs you.
Real love touches the whole world. Where can you find love? Love is found
wherever there is oneness--abhedata. So when can one attain oneness with
the world? It is when one becomes the embodiment of love that oneness with the
whole world is attained. There you see only love. There is no problem with the
love you have for me. That love will help you. With that love, love that is
being employed in wrong places will vanish.
So the feelings that we have for you,
is it the result of Your love?
Yes, it verily is the result of love.
One becomes wise and good--dahyo with this weapon of love. I do not want
to scold anyone. The only weapon I have is this love. I have laid down the arms.
I have laid down the weapons of anger, pride, deceit and greed. I want to conquer this world with love’.
Now after taking this Gnan, two to
three more lives still remain. So
are you not bound to help us with your total compassion until they are
I am bound only by love. I am bound as
long as there is your love. When your love ceases, then I am free. If your love
turns towards the worldly things, then you will not remain bound to me. If your
love remains towards the Self, then I will remain bound to you. What do you
think? Are we not bound? We are bound for sure through love!
is why ‘Dada’ travels throughout the world in a subtle form. On a gross
level I am here, but ‘Dada’ in a subtle form roams throughout the world, He
watches over everything. This is a premavatar presence of love incarnate,
and will be present whenever and wherever one faces the slightest trouble in the
mind ‘Dada’ will come to him.
such things continue to happen. There are no miracles in this. This is natural.
Any person that has become free from all the veils of ignorance, but has not yet
reached the stage of absolute Knowledge, such a person is the manifestation of
real love, and in the presence of such a person, every thing is possible.
Of The Gnani Purush: Love Of The Tirthankara
world has never before seen the love that is manifest here. Whenever such a love
did manifest, it was within the Vitarag Lords and so that love was not visible.
In my case because I fell short in attaining kevalgnan so the love
remains and expresses and full vitaragata enlightenment associated with
absolute detachment, did not arise.
You have said, that you have become
the embodiment of love but an absolute enlightenment—absolute vitarag
state did not manifest, please explain that?
Love is when one does not feel even
the slightest of negativity towards anyone. So only absolute vitarag
state is called love. As one becomes more and more devoid of raag-dwesh—attachment-abhorrence--vitarag,
one’s love will arise proportionately. The Absolute Vitarag has absolute love!
You have all become vitadwesh without
abhorrence. Now you have to slowly become vitarag - without attachments
in all matters. That is how love will arise towards the full phase (the Absolute
Here you have said that you have love, what does it mean when you say that
you did not get reach the vitarag
Vitarag state is this love of mine.
You are able to see my love, but the love of the Absolute Vitarag is not
visible. Their love however is considered real love. People can see my love, but
that is not called real love. Real love is when one becomes an Absolute Vitarag;
complete full moon, whereas for me it is not considered the full moon but the
moon of the night before the full moon.
That means the love of the one with
the full moon is greater than yours?
Yes, theirs is the real love! Real
love is of those with the full moon. My love lacks in some places.
Absolute vitaragata and yet be lacking in love, is not possible, no?
They can never be without love.
Is there so much of a difference
between the fourteenth day of the moon and the full moon?
Quite a lot of difference! It would
appear to be very much like the full moon, but there is a vast difference! What
do I have? I have nothing, whereas the Tirthankaras have everything.
Nevertheless, the satisfaction I feel is the same as that of the full moon! My
energies are such that I feel as if I have achieved the full moon too!!
Salvation Through the Darshan of the
What is the importance of doing darshan
of a Gnani Purush? What fruit can we reap?
Purush is without internal torment—shalya.
Having a prasanna—that
which pleases others chit those who come to do the darshan feel the bliss of
such a pure chit. The sins of many life times are destroyed with a mere darshan
of the Gnani.
There is nothing in this world that you can give to a
Gnani Purush that will be useful to him because he has no desire for anything.
No desire for money, for fame, for sex or respect. The Gnani Purush is
desire-free; His mere darshan washes
away all your sins. You experience boundless peace by just sitting with him.
no circumstances do negative bhaav—feelings ever arise within ‘us’. You will not see any other bhaav
in my eyes, and that is why people do darshan.
One should not be able to read any negative bhaav
in the eyes. That is when one will feel samadhi the bliss of the Self just by looking into those eyes.
darshan is called the wonder of the
world. This is the eleventh wonder. Ask any kind of questions; ask millions and
millions of questions, the Gnani Purush will answer them through his vision.
There is not a word of a scripture. Here lots of work can be done in one minute.
I do not have a question, but we want to walk on this path.
that’s it, enough. You keep doing this darshan.
Everything will happen by doing darshan.
If you have questions then do ask. However questions will not arise. All
questions will resolve with this darshan.
You can clarify your mind, but you do not really need clarification. If one
takes birth here in Hindustan and if he gets to do the darshan of a Gnani Purush then his salvation is done. Even if has
just taken up spiritual study, once he meets a Gnani Purush, he attains
Benefits: Spiritual Benefits
chhe punyai sanchalit, chahoon abhyudaya anushangik’
is dependant upon the stock of merit karma,
desire worldly prosperity and spiritual prosperity’
get two rewards when you meet a Gnani Purush: one is improved worldly life-abhyudaya and the other is spiritual improvement leading to
liberation-anushangik. You will attain
both these rewards together. If you don’t get both the rewards together, then
you have not met a Gnani Purush. People don’t realize this because they carry
tremendous amounts of overdrafts—debt of karma. But now that you are doing
satsang, these overdrafts will definitely be paid off.
Darshan Of the Gnani
are three very auspicious days, The Indian New Year Day, Janma Jayanti (birthday
of the Gnani), and Gurupurnima.
On these days there are no external interactions with anyone and therefore I,
the Gnani Purush become
one with the Dada Bhagwan within and consequently am in an absolute state. You
can reap tremendous benefits by doing darshan during this state. That is
why it is very important to do Dada’s darshan on these days.
Impartiality Towards All Religions
You are Self-realized person, now if you go to the temple then does not it raise
the pratishtha—set an example and
encourage-- going to the temple?
we go we would go for darshan. We go
for darshan at derasar, temple of
Mahadevji (Lord Shiva), temple of deities, mosque of Muslims, everywhere. If
‘we’ do not go then people will not go too for the darshan. That can create wrong practice. We cannot create a wrong
new path. We have different responsibility for that. ‘Our’ solutions are
always for people to attain peace and happiness.
What inspired you to spread this new
The inspiration to spread religion comes naturally. I felt the desire to make
others experience the same bliss that I experienced. This is the inspiration.
ask me how I will be able to fulfill the commitment that I have taken for the
salvation of the world now that I am getting old and take so long to finish a
cup of tea in the morning. I do not have to do the work on a gross or physical
level. It is all occurring at a subtle level. The external events are merely a
drama. I just have to support them.
Remain as The Self: Patel does the Vidhis
of the time ‘I’ remain as ‘the Self’. The relation I maintain with this
body is that of a ‘neighbor’. Only on certain occasions, I come into this
body. When one remains as the Self, nothing can affect the freshness. I have
never slept at night. I may doze off once or twice, for about fifteen minutes,
but the rest of the time, only the eyes are closed. Because I am hard of
hearing, people think Dadaji is asleep. I have to perform a lot of vidhis so
I remain in the Self and A.M.Patel does the vidhis. Day and night he is
performing vidhis for the salvation of this world.
Gnani Molds Prakruti Thus
think that Dada is taking a nap inside but there is no truth in that. I sit in
the padmaasan pose. Even at the age of
77 years, I am able to sit in the padmaasan
pose. My legs are very flexible and that is why my eyes and the light-energy in
my eyes is very strong.
much affection do I have for this body of mine? ‘I’ have already attained
liberation through this body and completed my salvation. My affection and care
for this body is only to the point that it becomes the instrument for the
salvation of others. But otherwise my relationship with this body is one like
that with a neighbor.
do not have any rights over this body. Whoever has the right will come and make
their claim and take it. You have to treat this body of yours as a friend and
get your work done. There is no telling what can happen to this body at any
time. Nothing however can happen to the territory of the Self. The body that
will take you to moksha is very strong. The body through which liberation is
attained is called the charam sharira.
Presence Verily Bring Salvation
What kind of gift is offered to the world by a person like you? Or what is the
importance of such a person for jagat
presence verily would do jagat kalyan.
Only His presence. When the time is right for the people of the world to attain
salvation, He will come about. His presence only can bring world salvation.
Questioner: So did vyavasthit—scientific circumstances evidences select you?
by the laws of vyavasthit. No one had said this. I had bhavna
deepest inner intent, that world should not be like this. Salvation must occur.
So the causes were laid down! May someone attain that Gnan—Self-enlightenment
which can bring world salvation. And this Gnan manifested within me only. I did
not know that such Gnan will manifest.
how wonderful did this Gnan manifest? According to my presumption, may every
living being attain world salvation and such merit karma punyai
came into fruition, which can do the same. So now you can ask whatever you want
‘Dada’ Will Be Around for Thousands of Years
‘Dada Bhagwan’ is the Lord of fourteen worlds, so now excepting Him, what
needs do we have?
the Lord of fourteen worlds. But how can we hold Him in our hand? You can hold
Him as long as this body-temple is around. Later when this body leaves, what
then? Yes, people believe the visible Dada as Dada. Really, the original Dada is
separate. This that you can see is different ‘Dada’--Amabalal and there is
again a middle part, sookshma subtle
Questioner: You mentioned bhavna deep inner intent for Dada, do you mean it to be for subtle Dada?
As long as there is niddidhyasan—varying
levels of inner darshan there will not be any problem. If you look for
the physical presence there will be a problem.
Questioner: And if we have niddidhyasan of
verily this murti physical body, then
will there not be any problem?
will remain ‘first class, high class—top order- wonderful. It will be
moving, walking and talking. Not only it will appear near to you but it will be
just in your close proximity. You can also see Him talking with you. That can
last forever. Even if ‘we’ are not here, sookshma
subtle ‘Dada’ will be present for thousands of years.
Desire of Salvation for The World will Lead to Full Enlightenment
can do jagat kalyan? The one who can
do his own kalyan, can do kalyan for others.
only concern is how people attain salvation. That is very purpose for my birth.
Half the world will achieve salvation through me and the other half through my
have attained salvation, now we should keep inner intent for salvation of
others. That verily will take us to full enlightenment. That bhavna
deep inner intent, ‘may everyone attain salvation’, begins one’s own
A Deep Inner Intent of Salvation of the World
Questioner: The bhavna which we have for
salvation of the world, what if this is the only bhavna we have in our life?
you will reap very big fruit for that bhavna,
what Tirthankara Lords did that they only had bhavna for only the salvation of the world, that’s it! As a result
what did they attain? They become tirthankara. Wherever they put their step, is
called tirtha a place of pilgrimage. I
also pray for very same bhavna, if you
have same bhavna then it will come in
single pure person can do jagat kalyan.
The underlying foundation of this must be total Atmabhavna being the
Self. Continue praying that bhavna for one hour and if interrupted, resume praying. If you have
a goal of this bhavna then preserve
and nurture this bhavna.
can impede the one who has made the unflinching commitment to the goal of
salvation of the world? There is no shakti
energy in the world which can obstruct and the celestial Gods of the entire
universe are showering flowers. Therefore, make a commitment that I want to do
this work only. The moment you make this decision, from that moment onwards you
will not have to be concerned about the needs of this body. As long as you exist
in sansaaribhaav—I am Chandulal, this world is mine—there will be
worries for the needs of this body. And what a jahojalali—the ease of royal splendor, this Dada has? When only
one kind of desire remains then you have accomplished. And devsatta—energy of the celestial beings is with you. These
celestial beings have the power, they have such authority to help you
constantly. Only five are needed with only such exclusive goal, nothing else, no
wavering is needed. In times of difficulties or in sleep, there should be only
this one goal.
Science Is Not Going to Go Away
We all have decided the goal of jagat
kalyan through your grace. So this world can become aware of this ocean of
knowledge, or can understand this Gnan, but what can we do so at least the world
comes to know that it is available?
just have to keep this bhavna within
that may this world attain salvation. That bhavna
is of the pure heart. The world will attain for sure, there is no doubt about
that. Nature only will help in this. No body else will be able to help in this.
Nature will really help. The world will attain. That is definite. This is not
going to go astray. Such a magnificient Vignan that has manifested is not going
to be buried without its full purpose coming into reality.
this Lord Simandhar Swami will liberate the entire world. The entire world will
attain liberation! The entire world will attain liberation through his
evidentiary presence--nimit as the current living Lord Tirthankara.
Support to the Work of Salvation Of the World
am in the preparation for the salvation of the people of India. Having attained
the Self, having become the Purush Self, I have commenced the
purusharth real effort on the path of ultimate liberation. All my
work is aimed at how the people of India and foreign countries benefit from
this. Whoever is able to help, can do so; they can help by lending support to
this ‘tent of salvation’ that ‘we’ have erected, should people not lend
The entire face of this world is going
to turn around. New updeshaks—preceptor-masters of religious teachings
will arise and the old ones will retire.
The Whole World Attain This Bliss
have deep inner intent in the mind that, ‘Everyone attain the bliss that I
have attained.’ I do not want anything else. That is also bhaav--deisre, no?
As long as any bhhav—intent, desire exists, once degree—spiritual
unveiling—is that much the less. One cannot be a total
vitarag as long as there there
exists any bhaav. That is why ‘we’
fell short by four degrees.
Dada, what about three hundred fifty seven, fifty-eighth and the fifty-ninth
degree will increase, that state is very high. That status is very high.
Questioner: How does the world appear to the one with three hundred and sixty
living being is suffering, no one is in pleasure, and no one is at fault at all.
Everything is regular and normal. He sees every living being as faultless—nirdosh.
I too see all as faultless, but that is so by shraddha
faith and in Gnan—knowledge.
It is not so in charitra conduct. That
is why ‘we’ sometimes say, “You did this wrong, and this is good of this
person.” As long as right or wrong comes out in speech, then the flawless
vision has not come into conduct—charitra. When it will come in
conduct—vartan-charitra then ‘our’ three hundred and sixty degrees
will be accomplished.
have been free and without any tension for the past twenty-seven years. Whatever
tension there was, belonged to A.M.Patel. But as long as A.M.Patel is under
tension, I carry the burden, do I not? When that ceases, then we will be fully
liberated. But as long as the body is there, there is still bondage. I do not
have any problem with that anymore, even if there remain two more lives.
The only sense of bondage is the inner intent from the past life of
wanting others to attain the same bliss that I have attained. That is the only
activity kriya. This—the status of
Gnani is the fruit of that intent.
Will Leave Last
Questioner: For jagat kalyan, you are the
one who is saying that you are not in hurry; let it take one to two more lives
not in hurry, what am I trying to say here? Let me be as long as the natural law
permits. If the time comes to proceed for moksha final liberation, I am
ready, but currently I have no desire for that. I am not in a
hurry, what does it mean? Moksha is our current experience. So
then let the people get the benefit of salvation. That is my desire. Thereafter,
‘we’ will leave quietly.
The Splendor of the Reign of Lord Mahavira
Gnani is to be found once in a while. In every fifth era of the time cycle there
is a Gnani Purush for sure. Otherwise what will happen to the spiritual realm—sashan
of this last Tirthankara? It will turn into a forest. So there is some kind
of support like this. It is there and it keeps running. And this realm will
shine brilliantly. Now it will shine brightly and beautifully.
is not considered ‘our’ reign. We are the illuminating splendor of the
reign. The illuminating light of the reign of Lord Mahavira! What will ‘we’
do with that reign—being the Lord? Why would ‘we’ take those pains? This
is called the reign of Lord Mahavira. It suits and is right for a tirthankara.
This is not appropriate for ‘us’. ‘We’ are just here to give the
interim support. This is ‘our’ nimit
instrumental evidence. ‘We’ will walk away after completing it.
Jai Sat Chit Anand
goals in human life: Until one meets a Gnani Purush he should live his worldly
life in such a way that nobody gets hurt through him, to the slightest extent.
The second goal is to meet a Gnani Purush, and obtain the knowledge of the Self
that leads to moksha. Thereafter following His Agnas and staying in satsang
with him will solve all puzzles and accomplish everything.
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