Nitya Saathe Raho

Be With Me My Lord or I will be With You.

This series of Satsang is selected with the purpose of returning to the Self. Coming home. To Bliss Eternal. Whenever you are tired of playing games in the world of duality, come here and be established in that which is your Real Self.

I am here. For ever for you. It is you who likes to stray away from me. I remain here, always, with unconditional love. Your wandering mind plays tricks with you and leads you away. Your sharp intellect deceives you into a promise that is never fulfilled. Your citta shows you scenes which you have seen many many times before and you know what lies at the end. Your thoroughly beaten ego still rises up in insignificant and useless interactions making you tired, sapping you of all your human energies. Your senses seek that which is more out of what you have created in your imagination. You know it is all a mirage and yet you keep running.

Jai Sat Chit Anand

Satsang With Dadashri  on Kashaya & Saiyyam Effect.

Dadashri: The Energy within arises as one wins the war with the discharge kashayas ...the anger, false pride, deluded behavior, greed and deceit that exist as enemies within. Win this war by whatever means necessary and The Energy within will arise. This inner war is much tougher than winning worldly wars. This is because these inner enemies delude your vision and therefore you  cannot see them as enemies within.

Questioner: If one writes the word kashaya...as a reminder of their existence within...for an entire life time, even then one will not get rid of them. Whereas the problems with something external, with some other person will be resolved in days or months.

Dadashri: Indeed these inner enemies can not be conquered in many many life times.

Pain exists because of the kingdom of kashayas. Otherwise there is nothing called pain, suffering or misery. Now you have attained The Self, and yet why is it that The Bliss of the Self is veiled? The influence of the army of discharge...that which unfolds in the relative realm through thoughts, speech and acts of File One... kashayas exists. That influence veils Your Bliss. Kashaya means pain and where pain exists kashaya exist. And Bliss means lack of kashayas. The Lord is without kashayas...akashayii.

In the absence of kashayas, there is no pain or suffering within. Nothing that someone else does will affect you. Otherwise even if someone else has not done anything, you will suffer within.

Questioner: If we become the instrument of the slightest pain to someone or if we experience such pain, both these are called kashayas?

Dadashri: Yes. All are kashayas. Kashaya means worldly pain. Any type of pain and suffering is kashaya. There is internal pain and suffering...vedana. There may be no external pain . Internal pain or suffering continues. This is kashaya. Do you suffer such anguish  within?

Questioner: Not pain, but the temporary depression comes over.

Dadashri: No objection to depression. It is the pain and anguish which is the problem and the one to be dealt with.

Questioner: Pain does not arise, Dada.

Dadashri: That is what you think...You are unable to see it. Your vision is gross so you cannot see the finer aspects.

Questioner: The slightest change in the experience of niraakudataa...the Bliss of The Unaffected...that Bliss..is pain, Dada?

Dadashri: Yes. Any change in your Bliss is pain...vyakudataa.

There are two types of kashayas. One kind is associated with happiness. This happiness leads to bondage. The other kind is associated with unhappiness. Here, with any pain and anguish within, bondage..charging ie. causal karma happens. The charging is for effects in the next life. There is no bondage if this happiness or unhappiness is known. Kashaya...the suffering of pain and pleasure causes bondage and there is no bondage if they are known, as they are, as they unfold. The nature of Gnan is such that it remains eternally aloof. Nothing affects it. The nature of Gnan is nirleyp...unaffected. Even with ignorance...agnan, Gnan remains unaffected. Even in kriyas...rituals and activities, Gnan remains nirleyp...unaffected.

Questioner: What is encompassed in kashayas? Anger-false pride-illusion-and greed?

Dadashri: Yes.

Questioner: And what else does it include?

Dadashri: Anger, pride, illusion and greed. When kashaya awakens he will say,' What have I done to hurt him? Why is he scolding me?'

Questioner: Whose result is it ?What  is the reason behind this result?

Dadashri: That is kashaya bhaav...the deep inner intent and association of the ego...I am Chandulal. It is the kashaya called maan...false pride. It is the kashaya of false pride that is causing this reaction.

Questioner: How does the effect of Chetan...the Self remain separate in this?

Dadashri: That is natural. This is in kashaya and That is in the Self, if this is seen with jagruti...awakened awareness.

Questioner: So what is the kind of the upayoga...focused awareness... with this jagruti...awakened awareness?

Dadashri: It is quite natural. It does not require any effort or doer ship. Awareness arises simply as soon as a kashaya arises. It is like the law enforcement troops descending upon a crime scene.

Questioner: What is the essential difference and the explanation for the result of, ' What have I done to hurt him? Why is he scolding me?' and the result of the inner spontaneous workings of awakened awareness? When jagruti....awakened awareness starts working spontaneously, what happens?

Dadashri: With jagruti...awakened awareness the other...the non Self....the kashaya reactions...separate spontaneously.

Questioner: Is it possible that there may be no reaction at all ? Meaning when the hurt of wounded false pride arises in, 'what wrong have I done to deserve this scolding and insult?'...

Dadashri: Jagruti...the awareness of the awakened...makes it evident that no one else is at fault, the fault is entirely mine, and this results in immediate separation.

Questioner: That means in the case of such a maan kashaya...the adverse internal meditation of pride arising...such an individual will not exhibit any overt  sthhoola...outwardly behavior of reactive false pride....  

Dadashri: There is no question of the sthoola here...now it has progressed to kashaya stage...internal anguish.

Questioner: That which has arisen internally, will it not melt with the awakened awarenss?

Dadashri: To separate is the melting. Therefore thus, we are not responsible for it. Karma is not bound and the responsibility does not bother you. We have become free from our responsibility.

Questioner: That means to slip from awareness is the key error. The awareness that separates the two ...relative and real...results ...is the fault that has happened.

Dadashri: Jagruti is not like that. "Fault has happened" is not the jagruti I am talking about. The awareness has not arisen. That awareness is needed. Thereafter the two separate spontaneously.

When Chandubhai is cursing someone...and within it happens that, what a foul deed, this is so aweful !, then it means that Your opinion is clearly different from Chandubhai's. The difference of opinion is sanyam...samyam...saiyyam. And the same opinion, one opinion is asaiyyam. The other person is cursing and your and Chandubhai's opinion being a single opinion is asaiyyam.

Questioner: When the two separate then it becomes apparent in the mind...

Dadashri: When it separates, that means that there is a difference in opinion.

The Vignan...The Science ...establishes saiyyam. Whenever a fault...dosh arises and if the one within does not like it, then it is called saiyyam. When the fault arises and one does not become tanmayakaar...becoming one with the fault...feeling as if he is committing the fault...then it is called sanyam. On the one hand he is exhibiting gross anger, while on the other hand he is regretting it. The one who is regretting is the saiyyamii. Thus our Science is associated with constant saiyyam.

Questioner: When someone is cursing or verbally abusing me, and at that time if I remain the Observer and Knower, then what is the veil that falls on the mind?

Dadashri:  Gnaata Drashataa...Knower Seer State is saiyyam. It is not to be taken within or upon the mind. If you employ the mind then you have lost the opportunity of saiyyam.

Questioner: It is OK to take it in the mind, let the mind delve upon it, but it should not affect us...?

Dadashri: Some folks are adept at not taking it upon the mind. They have trained for it. Internally they have become hardened  and blunt. Most folks have a good mind and such folks cannot but take it upon the mind and be affected by ...the insult and abuse. It happens automatically. Even if you do not want to involve the mind, it happens and you will be affected. When someone curses or abuses you, you get the opportunity for saiiyam. Therefore it is valuable. Take advantage of that value. You have become Shuddhatma. You have attained The Awakened Awareness. Therefore saiiyam is possible, otherwise it is impossible. Until the awareness of who am I arises, saiyyam is not possible. At the most worldly people can avoid taking it upon the mind.

Dadashri: How does the world react to a curse and verbal abuse? Raudradhyan.. severe adverse internal meditation that leads to future life bondage... arises. And what happens to you...mahatmas? saiyyam parinaam... the results of lack of any adverse meditation. That saiyyam parinaam...that internal State of balance and equanimity is the cause for final moksha... liberation. In the event that someone harasses or hassles you, You will deal with sambhaav...settle with equanimity. Chandubhai  may react, but You ...the one who is now awakened... will deal with equanimity. You are separate, Chandubhai is separate. Mostly, even Chandubhai will also remain quiet. And even if Chandubhai retorts to the insult, there is no hinsakbhaav...violent intent... associated with his words. Therefore there is saiyyam. To remain within Agnas is saiyyam. To do pratikraman is saiyyam.

The saiyyam of the kramik path is the saiyyam of the ego. Through the strength of the ego, one trains and contains the body, the mind and the speech. This is not true saiyyam. The world does not understand saiyyam. The containment of anger, false pride, greed and deluded behavior and deceit is saiyyam. These kashayas have to be contained. That is true saiyyam.

Jai Sat Chit Anand

nityasatsang continues

At the lotus feet of the One for whom nothing remains to be known
May 25, 2003