Gnani Purush Dadashri Establishes A Direct Connection With The Current Living Tirthankara
For Thousands of Generations With Unprecedented Clarity & Compassion
way to liberation in the current times
doesn’t have a desire to be liberated? Who does
not have the wish to attain ultimate aim of human life, liberation moksha? How many of us understand the true nature of moksha
and proceed on the way to attain it? Moreover, isn’t there a need for a guide
who can show us the right path and help us proceed on it?
It is described in the scriptures that in Kaliyug - this fifth
period of the descending half of the time-cycle, there is no possibility for
final liberation from Bharat Khshetra
(planet Earth). This is because there is no Tirthanakara now on the Earth. Just
because there is no living Tirthankara* (*Tirthankara – A living fully
enlightened being whose presence turns every place He goes to into a place of
pilgrimage and whose darshan grants
final liberation to the one who has
attained Self-realization), is there no way possible for anyone on earth to
attain salvation? In the past, there were Tirthankaras and Gnanis (*Gnani
– Enlightened beings free from all worldly attachment and who have the siddhi
spiritual energy to grace people with Self-realization) who were
instrumental in securing salvation of multitudes of people. But now, they are
all in the Siddha-Kheshtra* (*Siddha Kshetra - the final location of all
liberated souls), so where is the link for salvation at the present time, for
us? For those intensely desirous of moksha
and whose merit karma come into effect, a Gnani Purush arises and through Him
the path of moksha opens up, even in
the current time of Kaliyug. In the
present day, as a result of the fruition of the highest merit karma of souls
destined for moksha in a few life
times, a short-cut path has opened up through the Gnani Purush Shri Ambalal
Muljibhai Patel. This path is now known as Akram Marg (The path without
steps). Shri Ambalal Muljibhai Patel is the originator of the Akram
Path; in Him manifested the fully enlightened Lord known as Dada Bhagwan.
Through Dada Bhagwan, Self-realization is attained within only two hours.
Self-Realization is enlightenment, experience of the Self. Dada Bhagwan
has placed contless people on the path of liberation and these people are living
in moksha. Even now, this process is
Gnani Purush, who constantly is in the state of the Self, is constantly
in the bliss of the Self. He has attained the solutions to all the secrets of
the universe, and points out to those desirous of liberation; that the only path
to attain final enlightenment and moksha
is to recognize the currently living Tirthankara Lord and establish an unbroken
connection with Him. This can be done through unparalleled devotion for Him, and
surrender to Him. This will lead eventually to his darshan, and final liberation. This is the only solution.
However, if final Liberation is not available from this location and if a
livingTirthankara is not present here, what is the way to achieve this goal?
The one and the only way available for us all on Earth, is to attain a
connection with the currently living
Tirthankar Shri Simandhar Swami, and this is available.
Tirthankara Lord Shri Simandhar Swami is present. He is not present in this
planet but He is present in another world Mahavideha
Kshetra and yet, He is extremely benevolent for our planet Earth (Bharat
Khshetra). It is heart wrenching to see that so many people are not
acquainted with Him. Yes, some people in the Jain
religion know of Shri Simandhar Swami, but their knowledge is limited to only a
reference to Him in the ritual of samayik that
they do. Shri Simandhar Swami is
the present Arihant* (Arihant – a living fully enlightened being who
has destroyed all the inner enemies of pride, anger, deceit and greed). He is
benevolent and instrumental for the liberation of all beings on Earth. Since
complete familiarity with Him is not there, there is no unparalleled devotion
towards Him either. It is possible to attain liberation through Simandhar Swami
even in this present time of Kaliyug,
but sadly that opportunity and benefit is not being taken.
The Jains greatly
revere and recite the Navkar Mantra* (Navkar
mantra - mantra paying obeisance to
all beings of the universe in various stages of Self-realization), but
they do not get the full benefit of this mantra.
Is it because there is a fault inherent in the mantra
or in the one who recites it? If one were to recite it with the proper
understanding, will it not give better results? Dadashri, the Gnani Purush
clarified this by stating that the Navkar
Mantra is not being done with the proper understanding of its correct
meaning. Surely a letter addressed incorrectly is bound to end up in the
dead-letter box! So what mistake is being made here? The Gnani Purush explains
that the first line of obeisance in the Navkar
Mantra, ‘Namo Arihantanam - I bow to the Arihant
Lord’, is not directed to the past Chovisi*
(Chovisi – a unit of twenty-four
Tirthankaras who live in a certain period of one half time-cycle on Earth); it
does not refer to the past twenty-four Tirthankaras. An Arihant is a
living Tirthankara and so this obeisance is directed to the current living
Tirthankara Lord Shri Simandhar Swami. The Tirthankaras of the past Chovisi are addressed in the second obeisance, ‘Namo
Siddhanam – I bow to the Siddha Lords’,
because they are presently residing in the Siddha
Khshetra where all liberated Souls reside for eternity. Thus, by saying ‘Namo
Arihantanam’, the living Shri Simandhar Swami is to be worshipped.
Currently, there are twenty Tirthankaras residing in Mahavideh
Khshetra, so why should one worship only Shri Simandhar Swami? Dadashri
clarified this by explaining that Lord Simandhar has a special connection with
this planet of ours. At some time in the past, his birth may have occurred on
this planet, therefore even now, He will not forget this planet! Who but the
experienced Gnani can give such a thorough explanation?
Extremely benevolent Shri Simandhar Swami has been a Tirthankara since
the presence of the eighteenth Tirthankara Lord Arahanath on Bharat-Kshetra
- this planet of ours! All the Tirthankaras accept Him. So if we accept Him,
we too can achieve the fruit that is otherwise unattainable!
to Lord Simandhar Swami
if he is seeing before his very eyes, Gnani Purush Dadashri, disclosing the
minutest detail, gives the description that Simandhar Swami is currently one
hundred seventy five thousand years old and shall remain alive for one hundred
twenty five thousand years more. His body size is very very large. His eating
and drinking is different from ours. His speech is in the form of deshna*
(deshna - ego-less speech that liberates the listener). He is totally and
completely free of ego. His speech is without ownership, His speech is without
attachment and every living being understands it in his language. He always has
compassion for all living beings and has
a constant desire for the benefit of all living beings. He is instrumental for
our salvation as He remains the
Self in absolute knowledge kevalgnan. He establishes a tirtha
place of pilgrimage every place He walks. His body’s paramanus (parmanu - infinitesimal sub-atomic particles of matter)
are completely pure. He has thirty four such atishayas extraordinary
spiritual energies evident to all. He is endowed with so much merit karma that
is not excelled by any other living being. His body is the last one before final
liberation charam sharira and endowed
with perfect beauty. Upon seeing Him, one gets filled with feelings of
unparalleled devotion. For those who have attained Self-realization, Keval
Gnan (absolute knowledge)
is attained by just His darshan. When
the Lord’s sight is cast upon you, the ‘seal of liberation’ gets stamped
on you. He is Enlightened without a guru swayambuddha
and is born with three types of knowledge, (mati,
shruti and avadhi) and after accepting diksha
renouncing the world, He attained the fourth knowledge called manahparyaya
gnan which is knowledge of all the phases of the mind, and
ultimately the state of kevalgnan absolute
enlightenment. His remaining discharge karma are currently being exhausted like
water flowing in the river; whereas He remains in the state of absolute
knowledge. He has become the instrument for the final liberation of countless
people. We heartily bow down million times over to such a perfect, benevolent,
living, Arihant Lord and make our life
worthwhile with the constant desire to see Him in person.
Instrumental in the mission of liberation of millions by Shri
Simandhar Swami, are sixty-four ganadhars
(key associates of the Lord, who are Self-realized beings leading multitude of
seekers on the path of liberation), one million great kings with absolute
knowledge, one billion male ascetics, one billion female ascetics, nine billion
male householder devotees and nine billion female householder devotees; as well
as the protecting deities of His reign that include Shri Chandrayan Yakshadev
and Shri Panchanguli Yakshinidevi.
We can read the description of Shri Simandhar Swami in the scriptures,
but where else can we see and hear the facts about the Lord as it resides in the
heart of the Gnani? The description not found in scriptures, the facts about the
secrets of what is in the Tirthankara’s heart is easily understood and
experienced in the Gnani Purush’s words. Attaining Tirthankara state is not
the result of just one lifetime’s purushartha
highest inner effort but it is the result of an ardent benevolence for
people’s salvation over many a lifetimes that the Tirthankara lineage is
assured. Never to think about one’s own happiness, not to care about
eating-drinking, sleeping or anything else, to be spirited for only people’s
salvation are the very causes that result in a Tirthankara incarnation. The
“codes” of liberating speech of a Tirthankara are charged in such a way that
the speech hurts no one, nor does it offend the basis of anyone’s beliefs.
From this we can see how high a state one can achieve when one makes a strong
decision to not hurt anyone to the slightest extent, and aspire for salvation of
all! Mere darshan (devotional viewing)
of such a Lord who grants salvation –can secure one’s seal of final moksha.
Nevertheless, the Gnani Purush points out that we will need to have the
right vision and understanding in order to identify this Tirthankara Lord, who
has the supreme energy to liberate anyone who does His darshan. Only then will we succeed in doing darshan of His exact vitragata
(state absolutely free of attachment or abhorrence), and thus attain
one-ness with Him and accomplish our goal of moksha.
world of Mahavideha Kshetra
is Mahavideh Khshetra like, where the illuminator of the whole
universe, the Lord Shri Simandhar Swami currently lives? The description of Mahavideh
Kshetra’s geography is in the scriptures, but when we hear Dadashri’s
description, we are awed and convinced that it is not possible to get such an
accurate and reliable description without the first-hand experience of being
there; His description is beyond the information contained in the scriptures.
Gnanis have familiarity of this location through the medium of their subtle
body. Its secret cannot be known with our current physical science. We cannot
reach there with our physical senses. The Gnani explains that there are cold
zones between the Earth and Mahavideh
Khshetra and due to these zones it is not possible to go there.
According to the scriptures, to the north of our Bharat Khshetra (our world), at the distance of 193,150,000
kilometers starts the world of Mahavideh
Khshetra of Jambudwip. In this universe, there are fifteen worlds (five Mahavideh
Khshetra, five Bharat Khshetra and
five Airavat Khshetra) in all where
there are human beings and other life forms.
They too have virtuous people and wicked people, kings and such.
They have houses and domestic things. But there is a noticeable
difference in the peoples’ physical attributes; their height, breadth and age.
Out of these fifteen worlda, a living Tirthankara is not to be found in the five
Bharat Kshetras and five
Airavat Kshetras during the fifth era of the time-cycle. But in the five Mahavideh Kshetras, currently there is presence of a total of twenty
Tirthankaras, who are helping millions of beings attain final moksha
from the trap of terrible wanderings in the world of life and death.
The uniqueness of Mahavideh
Khshetra is that there is an eternal presence of the fourth period of the
time-cycle. There is a permanent presence of Tirthankara Lord and there is
one-ness ekata in people’s
mind-speech-body. For this reason, the path to Liberation is permanently open
from that world. Whereas, here in Bharat
Khshetra, due to the reign of the fifth period of time-cycle; there is no
unity of people’s mind-speech-body, therefore, the path to Liberation is not
open, however one can definitely attain liberation via Mahavideh Khshetra.
governing changes of location from world to world
Explaining the law that governs the migration from Bharat Khshetra to Mahavideh
Kshetra, Dadashri says that when one’s innate nature becomes compatible to
a particular time cycle; one is automatically attracted to the location where
that time cycle reigns. Those residing in Bharat
Kshetra with merit karma may encounter circumstances to meet with a Gnani
Purush, circumstances to abate all their inner enemies - anger, pride, deceit,
and greed (kashays) and bring about a
change in his or her innate nature. Then
by disposing all their pending karma with equanimity, acquiring a state free
from any attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh),
free from enmity towards anyone, a constant prevailing intention of not wanting
to hurt anyone; doing instant pratikraman (repentance
and asking for forgiveness) for any inadvertent acts of transgression; such a
human being is qualified to live in the fourth period of the time-cycle. If a
person feels a tremendous attraction for Simandhar Swami, and has unparalleled
devotion towards Him day and night; then he will bind an account with the Lord
from this world and in the next life, go near Him.
All this occurs according to law.
all who are Self-realized and those desirous of liberation
To those who have attained Self-realization (mahatmas) from Dadashri, He tells them, ‘I am but an instrument nimit
only. Simandhar Swami is the real benevolent one. I, too, am to go to Him and I
am telling you to worship Him and go near Him.’ After attaining
Self-realization, all worship of past Tirthankaras is a discharging karma, but
the worship of the current living Thirthankara is a charging karma which falls
in the category of punyai anubandhi-punyai,
meaning the outward action is due to discharging merit karma, but simultaneously
causes for new merit karma are also created. This type of merit karma takes one
closer to Simandhar Swami; they facilitate the achievement of all means needed
for the ultimate Liberation moksha and
thus are helpful in arranging all the needed links to achieving the ultimate
Mahatmas (those who have attained the Self through Akram
Vignan) are convinced with confidence that after attaining Self-realization from
Dadashri, by following His five Agnas
(His sentences that maintain the state of the Self), and through prashashtha
raag (attachment which
liberates) with Shri Simandhar Swami, their next birth which is to take place in
Mahavideh Kshetra, is already in the
process of being created as per this natural law. In abiding by Dadashri’s
five Agnas, there is a charging of merit karma for one or two more lives, which
brings one under the protection of Lord Simandhar Swami. For this, one does not
need to perform any worldly rituals; one only needs to follow Dadashri’s Agnas.
The energy arising from flowing the Agnas will
do all the work.
The science behind this is, after attaing the knowledge of the Self, one
disposes off all past karma, while remaining the Self (Shuddhatma). Thus, there will be no binding of new karma, except
those from abiding by Dadashri’s five Agnas, but those karma will lead to moksha.
In doing this, no adverse internal meditation (arta
dhyana or raudra dhyana) will occur and old karma get disposed off with equanimity.
One’s faults are cleared out by doing Pratikraman. There is freedom from karma
bondage and from their tubers (collection of karmic atoms of the mind), and by
law, one becomes worthy of another world. Thus
one can no longer live here in Bharat
Kshetra, so he migrates to Mahavideh
Khshetra where the fourth period of time-cycle is constant.
Revered Dadashri says, “I have relations with Simandhar Swami. For
those who follow my Agnas, I am taking the responsibility to take them to moksha.”
Just look at Dadashri’s compassion; He says, “I am in liberation. I am in no
hurry to reach the state of final liberation moksha.
I shall attain moksha after all of you
have attained it!” Where else can one see such compassion? Gnani purush who
has the only constant desire for people’s salvation is the manifest form of
the supreme Self paramatma and we
naturally bow to Him with infinite obeisance.
As a result of the glory of merit karma over millions of lifetimes, one
meets such an unattainable Enlightened Gnani; so now we must make a strong
decision that by exactly following His Agnas, as explained by Him, by uniting
our mind-speech-body, taking the unique shelter of Lord Simandhar Swami, we make
progress on the path of Liberation.
Purush Dadashri – Expounder of the path of liberation
tremendous amount of worship and devotion is going on in the world, however it
is imperative that it be done with the purpose of achieving the goal and the
objective. Therefore, it is very essential to become familiar with the Gnani
Purush who imparts to us the experience of liberation here and now and also
helps us make proper connection with the current living Tirthankara Lord, so
that under His guidance our efforts succeed in attaining the ultimate goal of
liberation. The Gnani is the
representative of the Tirthankara Lord. The Tirthankara’s extraordinary grace
is upon the Gnani Purush and the Gnani Purush does His work of world’s
salvation with the inner vision as that of a nimit
evidentiary instrument only, in this process. The Gnani Purush has proper
connection with Lord Simandhar Swami and is capable of going to Him through the
medium of His subtle body to get clarification of questions.
In spite of such extraordinary capabilities, the Gnani Purush keeps the
Tirthankara Lord as his superior and never falters in the utmost humility
towards the Lord. He remains as the smallest of all beings and gives all respect
for supremacy to Simandhar Swami. He gives correct explanation to people about
the Lord and connects them to Him with an extraordinary technique. As a result,
living beings, through devotion for the Lord, attain bliss and that is the
exclusive aim of the Gnani Purush. In having no desire for praise and respect
for Himself, He establishes Simandhar Swami as the one to worship; the Gnani
becomes an ideal example for people of the world to follow.
of celestial Gods and Goddesses
The Gnani Purush Dadashri gives importance to the worship of all
celestial Gods and Goddesses, without partiality. He accepts Gods-Goddesses of
all religions with utmost humility and advises us to worship them and do their arati
(ritual with sacred lamps). When their worship is performed, all previously
committed opposition or offences against them are cleared, thus no claims from
anyone of them may remain. Also
these Gods and Goddesses are helpful in removing obstacles that fall on the
pathway of our liberation. Moreover, by bowing to them all with the vision
towards the eternal, as the pure Self Shuddhatma,
the question of being misled or on the wrong path mithyatva,
does not arise.
Since the worship of all Gods-Goddesses who are helpful on the
path of liberation is beneficial to us, we should bow down to all with
deep devotion and get their blessings.
of the living idol in the Trimandir
the establishment of temples and idols, there is a great Indian science. Temples
are not for gaining pride and fame for one’s self, but they are for the
achievement of liberation through proper understanding. If temples are present,
then people will do some worship and get some benefit and will stop going in the
It was Dadashri’s genuine
deep seated desire that Indian people come to learn and know and worship
Simandhar Swami, attain His shelter and His grace. Explaining the science behind
the temples, he says, ‘These temples are meant for removing separation due to
differences of opinions matabheda and
for freedom from
divisiveness in religious factions and sects.’ But in reality, today,
just the opposite is taking place. Dadashri used to say, “I cannot bear to see
peoples’ pain and suffering. It is my desire that somehow people come out of
this divisiveness offaction and sects and become impartial and make progress on
the path of liberation! It is Simandhar Swami’s subtle message to create the
Trimandir (three separate temples on one platform for the Shaivites,
Vaishnavs and Jains ), to make
people impartial and to inspire them to move towards the path of liberation.
Lord Simandhar Swami is presently living and if His temple is constructed,
people will come to know the currently living Lord; they will worship Him and
only then will attain liberation. The day Simandhar Swami is worshipped in every
home, the day when His temples are built everywhere, the map of India will be
Worship of idol in the temple is a form of indirect worship (paroksha
bhakti) but because Simandhar Swami is currently living, His worship
gives the same result as worshipping Him in His presence. There are already
temples of Simandhar Swami in some places, but they have not been able to remain
free from divisive restrictions of sects and factions. For liberation of the
Indian people, it is extremely beneficial to create temples of the living Lord
Simandhar Swami that are free from any divisiveness of factions, sects, race or
creed. And for this reason only,
did Dadashri promote strongly the construction of the Trimandir. He advocated
building such a temple wherein people of all sects might enter without any
prejudice regarding their class or caste and be free to worship the Lord. In
touching the Lord’s feet with reverence, they will feel blessed and graced.
Everyone coming to the temple should feel, ‘this certainly is my Lord.’
In the Trimandir, the idol of Lord Simandhar Swami is the living image of
the Lord of Mahavideha. The Lord is presently manifest, so His paramanus
are also very helpful and the Gods and Goddesses who protect Him also give a lot
of help to the worshippers and grace them.
In this Trimandir, everyone desirous of liberation wishing to view the
Lord with reverence may easily enter without any objections and without any
restrictive and meaningless rules. And it is undeniable that this has become
possible today as a result of Dadashri’s strong desire for peoples’ bliss.
And we are seeing that people with merit karma who come to the Trimandir and do darshan
of the Lord, are getting this true message of impartiality and the total
satisfaction of doing real darshan.
of worship despite having no desire to be worshipped
A natural sentiment may occur in those who have a deep
reverence for the Gnani Purush Dadashri to place his idol in the temple so that
the world may learn and know about Him after He is gone, but He has clearly
refused this and has said, “Keep the idol of the Lord that is there.
Do not install my idol. I do not want this idol-custom! And for what
reason should my idol be installed? I have become content from being worshipped
over infinite lifetimes. I have no ambition to be worshipped at all. If you
must, then install my idol praying to Lord Simandhar Swami and that too as a
symbol that I am yearning to worship and not be worshipped!” What humility!
What a gesture of being the smallest! What compassion!!
today, the link that liberates continues
Revered Dadshri’s intense and compassionate desire was that this path
of Akram Vignan that has come into existence after one million years should not
stop. It must go on. All living begins who are qualified must reach Mahavideh
Kshetra after attaining Self-realization here.
For this reason, He has said, “I am going to grant siddhis
special energies to some, through my own hands, because later on too, people
will need the path, will they not?”
Even today, through this current link of Atma Gnanis, countless people are attaing Self-realization within
only two hours and progressing on the path of liberation.
We should all make a strong inner intent bhavna that all living beings attain salvation…may all attain moksha.
unparallel devotion! Such sacrifice!!
In 1976, I had the opportunity to serve our revered Dadashri at the time
of His sickness at His residence in Mamani Pole in Vadodara. At half past twelve
in the afternoon, after lunch, as usual He was sitting on a bench. I was sitting
across from Him on a sofa. Right in front of me, Shri Simandhar Swami’s photo
was hanging on the wall. While talking, as if some inspiration may have come to
Dadashri - or may be it was time to shower His infinite grace upon me - he
connected me with Shri Simandhar Swami in an extraordinary manner. I have no
words to describe the ultimate blissful state of that time! Since then, until
today, as soon as my chit becomes
free, it becomes engrossed in Shri Simandhar Swami. On that day there awakened
within me, the highest affection for Lord Simandhar Swami as a result of which,
the Vitarag Lord’s arati came to be
written. The mystery of that phenomenal connection is to be found in this arati.
Thus, the most graceful Dadashri explained the mystery surrounding the vitarag
Lord and made my connection with Him. After this incident, I experienced such
wonderful bliss and in the heart grew a strong desire that Shri Simandhar
Swami’s devotional singing, worship and arati
should be done and His portrait should be placed in every home in India.
There is a constant flow of desire in the heart that people of this era
get connection with Shri Simandhar Swami and attain a place at His holy feet. Or
else, this mission of world’s salvation will be impossible. This earth is to
remain without a Tirthankara for a very long time. So, if a person gets an early
‘transfer’ to Mahavideh Khshetra,
then he can get darshan of Shri
Simandhar Swami and move on to attaining final liberation. This whim has taken
over the mind that, people in every home should sing Simandhar Swami’s praises
and devotional songs and do His arati
and place Him in their hearts. And I have a strong conviction and faith that
this will happen because the ruling protecting deities of Lord Simandhar Swami;
Shri Chandrayan Yakhshadev and Shri Panchanguli Yakhshinidevi are there to
protect this mission! The world must attain salvation - why should it not?
Helping us is the living Tirthankara Shri Simandhar Swami and moving about here
in Bharat Khshetra is the expounder of
the Akram path, Gnani Purush Dadashri.
Therefore, it is only proper that this will happen and it has happened! Today,
Lord Simandhar Swami has reached countless homes and hundreds of thousands of
people have attained connection with the Lord and are experiencing bliss.
Current Living Tirthankara
The Arihant Lord is Living and Present
with right understanding
Do you want moksha-liberation?
Do you think about liberation?
Of course I want liberation!
So then why are you not seeking it with fervor?
Why not use some influence and connections?
Taking the name of God is my way of using some influence and connection.
Which God do you pray to?
I recite the Navkar Mantra (traditional mantra of the Jains) the whole
That is fine. The Navkar Mantra
will give peace. But do you recite
the mantra with the understanding of its meaning or without it?
I have read the book about it, but I do not remember it.
What is the meaning of “Namo Arihantanam”?
I do not know that, sir. I
know that the obeisance is directed towards all the celestial beings. I
do not know anything else. I have
faith in the Navkar Mantra. I keep
reciting it but I have not delved deeper into it.
Just look at this! He is
reciting the great mantra without understanding its meaning.’ Knowing the
underlying meaning can give so many benefits!
Arihant means Tirthankar.
Yes, but who? What is the
name of that Tirthankar?
It includes all the twenty-four Tirthankars.
But now those twenty-four Tirthankars have become ‘Siddha Lords’.
So if you address them as ‘Namo Arihantanam’, it is a mistake.
They feel offended. It is
very harmful; it creates a liability for you. In reality they do not feel
offended but the offence reverts back to you and you become liable for the wrong
doing, because they have now become siddha (Siddha - absolute state of
emancipation from transmigration and reincarnations) but you are addressing them
as ‘Arihant’. If someone, who
used to be a member of the parliament becomes the Prime Minister you address him
as a member of the parliament, would that not be inappropriate and offensive?
In the same token if you believe the Siddha as being Arihant, it is very
detrimental. It is appropriate to
address them according to their correct status.
can you call an ‘Arihant’? It
is one who has not become a Siddha, he is present as a human being and has
absolute knowledge (kevalgnan); only such a one can be called an Arihant.
Such a one has destroyed all the inner enemies of anger, pride, deceit
and greed. So do you not pay
obeisance to an Arihant? Which Arihant do you pay obeisance to? Do you understand your mistake?
people refer to the twenty-four tirthankars as Arihants but if you think about
it, they have now become Siddhas. So
when we give the obeisance “Namo Siddhanum”, they are automatically included
in it. So only the part of ‘Arihant’ remains unaddressed. Therefore the
entire Navakar Mantra remains incomplete. Because it is recited with incomplete
understanding, one does not get its result.
Therefore there must be a current living tirthankara, an Arihant.
asked an Acharaya Maharaj (Jain preceptor of a high order), “Do you recite the
Navkar Mantra?” and he replied, “Absolutely, I recite it everyday”.
I asked him, “What benefit do you gain?” and he replied, “I do not
get the benefit I want”. I asked
him, “Do you know what mistake you are making?”
it likely that there is a mistake in the Navkar Mantra?
What do you think?
There cannot be any mistake in the Navkar Mantra.
There cannot be a mistake in the mantra. However, can there
not be mistakes in the one who recites it? Actually, the mistake lies in the understanding of the
of the past are presently the Siddhas
Arihantanum’ is addressed to the benefactor that is presently living, but
there is no such Arihant on this planet earth and yet people keep reciting this
obeisance all the same. Whom do they address in this obeisance?
Whom does this ‘mail’ reach? Is
just one person making this mistake? Can
everyone make the same mistake? “Is this the way?” Do you understand my point?
Yes, I do understand now.
People had the right to address a Tirthankar as ‘Arihant’ when Lord
Mahavir was present here on this earth. When
that chovisi (the knowledge and
influence of the twenty-four Tirthankaras) was continuing; so were all the
phases attributed to them. Now Lord
Mahavir ended that chovisi, and He has
moved on. One can say ‘Namo
Arihantanum’ if such beings were to arrive here on earth shortly…then that chovisi can be said to be continuing….but at the moment that chovisi
has ended and so no such being is likely to come.
The tirthankars have also said, ‘now this chovisi
is coming to an end. There
will no longer be any more Tirthankars (on planet earth) therefore pay obeisance
to the Tirthankars that are in Mahavideh Kshetra.
There are currently living Tirthankars in Mahavideh Kshetra so pay your
obeisance to them.’ But people
have completely forgotten about this and everyone addresses the Tirthankaras of
this past chovisi as ‘Arihants’.
Lord Mahavir has clarified everything but what can anyone do when people
misunderstand? That is precisely
why people do not get any benefits from reciting the Navkar mantra!
the mistake needs to be corrected!
This has been going for a very long time and that is why people continue
to follow suite. No one has even
thought about the fact that an Arihant means that he must be presently living as
a human being.
Yes, just look at this huge mistake that continues to be perpetuated!
What do you think? Should there not be a correction of this?
Should people not correct their mistake after understanding the fact?
Yes and yet they also believe that there currently a living Tirthankar in
Yes they believe it and yet they do not pay obeisance to the Lord; they
do not worship him as the ‘Arihant’. They
pay the obeisance of ‘Namo Arihantanum’ only to the Tirthankaras of the past
only through the worship of the current living Tirthankara
There are three types of tirthankaras: tirthankaras of the past,
tirthankaras of the present and tirthankaras of the future. The Tirthankaras of
the past are gone. Worship of these
tirthankaras binds merit karma. In addition to this, adherence to the
instructions (agna) of the one whose
reign prevails will give rise to religion leading to the Self (dharma).
This is beneficial in guiding the follower towards moksha.
However, it is entirely a different matter when you invoke the current
living Tirthankara. The one who is currently present has the supreme value. It
is like money in the form of cash; cash is more useful. Money that is yet to
come is called future income. And that, which is gone, is gone. So what
we need is cash. That is why I am introducing you to the One who is presently
living. This is the cash bank of Divine Solution! You need to have cash on hand,
not in form of credit. And we still continue to pay obeisance to the twenty-four
Tirthankaras of the past, do we not?
The Enlightened Ones have said that the twenty-four Tirthankaras are
Tirthankaras of the past. They had become Tirthankaras in the past and are no
longer here. Therefore one should look for a living Tirthankara. One makes
progress in the worldly life by worshipping the Tirthankaras of the past, but
one does not gain any benefit towards liberation. Liberation is only attained
through the ones who are living and present.
people ask, ‘where is the Arihant at the moment?’ I tell them, “Do
namaskar (pay obeisance) to this Simandhar Swami."
Swami is present in this universe (brahmand);
today He is the Arihant, therefore pay obeisance to Him.
At the moment He is still present. We
must have a present Arihant, only then can we benefit.
Therefore, when you give your obeisance with an understanding, ‘I pay
obeisance to the Arihant wherever he maybe in this universe’, then you will
reap wonderful benefits. If at the moment Lord Mahavir were present in Delhi, if you
were to pay obeisance to Him here, it would reach Him. In the same token, this too reaches the Arihants; your
‘phone’ may be late in reaching by half a minute or so, nevertheless it does
Questioner: Who is Simandhar Swami? Would you please grace us by giving this understanding?
Swami is a tirthankara Lord. Just like Lord Rushabhdev and Lord Mahavir who were
here. Lord Simandhar is like them. He is currently in another location called
In awareness only Shri Simandhar Swami
ask me why I make everyone recite Simandhar Swami’s name and not the
twenty-four tirthankars. I tell
them, ‘We do recite obeisance to the twenty-four tirthankars too, but we do it
methodically and precisely. We pay
emphasis to Simandhar Swami. He is the present living Tirthankar and the
obeisance of ‘Namo Arihantanum’ reaches only him.
you recite the Navkar mantra, Simandhar Swami must be in your awareness, then
your mantra is regarded as being correct and pure.
there not twenty tirthankaras moving about at the present time?
Yes. Only if you understand that the twenty who are
currently present are the arihants, then your recital of the Navkar Mantra will
Today, there must be a living presence of a Tirthankar, only then can you reap benefits. There are twenty Tirthankars in all, but are we likely to remember their names? Instead, Simandhar Swami is of tremendous importance for our planet earth; so address your obeisance to Him and your mantra will give benefits. There are many people who do not know about the existence of these twenty tirthankaras. Many have the opinion: ‘What do we have to do with them?’ and believe that the twenty-four tirthankaras of the past are the only arihants. Because of such mistakes there is so much confusion and harm in the spiritual world.
One becomes impartial through darshan
From now on recite the Navkar Mantra with the understanding that Simandhar Swami is the ‘Arihant’, and there are other mantras; all the three mantras - recite them too. Recite the three together. Have you gone to do darshan at His derasar-temple?
Questioner: No, we are Sthanakvasi (Jain sect who do not believe in idol worship).
Dadashri: Even if you are a Sthanakvasi, you should do His darshan (visualization, with varying levels of understanding). Sthanakvasi is a sect. We want to come of out sectarianism; how long are we going to remain in a sect? Do you want liberation or not?
The method of correct darshan
If you have the real desire to do the darshan of the Lord in the temple or derasar, then I will teach you how to darshan of the Lord, in the correct way. Do you have such a desire?
Questioner: Yes Dada, teach us and starting tomorrow we will do the darshan the way you show us.
Dadashri: Go to the temple of the Lord and say, “Dear Vitarag Lord, You reside within me, but because I have not yet become acquainted with You, I am doing Your darshan here. The Gnani Purush, Dada Bhagwan has taught me this method and I am doing Your darshan according to his instructions. Please bestow Your grace upon me so that I may realize my true Self.” Do your darshan in this way wherever you go, whichever temple you visit. From the relative perspective, all the Gods have been given different
but in reality they are all one.
When people go to temples, they are not thinking about religion, they are thinking about their business! Many people have a habit of going to temples everyday. Hey you! This has become a habit, is that why you are doing darshan of God? Everyday when you do the Lord’s darshan, you should find it a novelty, moreover when you are on your way to do darshan, you should be filled with fresh joy.
There is a difference in worshipping the one who has direct presence and the one who has indirect presence
What is the difference between praying and reciting praise of the
attributes of the Lord Mahavir and the
Lord Simandhar Swami? What is the
difference in the benefits from the two?
would not listen to your prayers or praise for Him. Nevertheless it is good to
pray to Lord Mahavir if one does not pray to Simandhar Swami. But who would
listen to any prayers for Lord Mahavir? He has nothing to do with us anymore. He
is now a siddha, totally liberated and without a body. It is we who continue to
make images of Him and insist on keeping these images. He cannot be called a
tirthankara now, just as you cannot call a past president a president. He can
only be called a siddha. It is only Simandhar
Swami who will benefit you.
Questioner: So then what benefit do we get from saying, ‘Namo Arihantanum’? And what benefit is there in saying ‘Namo Siddhanum’ – what is the difference in the benefits between the two?
Dadashri: If you do not say ‘Namo Siddhanum’, it will do but you do have to say ‘Namo Arihantanum’, if you want liberation, you have to say it.
So that means benefits are gained by saying only ‘Namo Arihantanum’, is that
correct? Is there no benefit in
saying ‘Namo Siddhanum’?
No other benefits besides deciding it is the destination we want to go.
If someone asks ‘which station do you want to go to?’ you tell them
‘I want to go to London’; then London will remain in your awareness. So it
will remain in your awareness that you want to go to moksha;
the Siddha location. That is why you have recite , ‘Namo Siddhanum.’
the utmost benefactor for us is the Arihant Lord.
Whom can we call an Arihant? It
is the one who is present and not the one who is absent.
He must be present as a human being; therefore address everything to Lord
Simandhar Swami. Now surrender your
life to Him.
Is there a difference in worshipping the two?
Questioner: We worship Simandhar Swami – that is fine, but if we worship any one of the past twenty-four tirthankars, do we not gain any benefits from it?
Dadashri: It is better (to worship the past twenty-four Tirthankaras) than doing nothing. But you do not get the true benefit that you will get from worshiping a Tirthankar. You may worship them believing them to be a Tirthankar, but really they are not, they are Siddha Lords. Do you understand that they have become Siddha?
Dadashri: Only if they are present here. Lord Mahavir when He was here, He was a Tirthankar. Now that time is over and He has become Siddha. All the twenty-four tirthankars have become Siddha. Whereas here, Lord Simandhar Swami will remain as a Tirthankar a long time after we pass away.
Currently there are Twenty Living Tirthankaras
Questioner: Simandhar Swami is currently living in Mahavideh Kshetra. There are also other tirthankars there, so do we have to say obeisance to them too?
Dadashri: Yes, there twenty other tirthankars like Him. They are there for sure and then we have Simandhar Swami. There are nineteen other tirthankars but their idol-representation (murti) has not been established, because Simandhar Swami has special connections with our planet earth.
Out of the twenty tirthankars, we give special importance and obeisance to Simandhar Swami because He is the closest to our Bharat kshetra- planet Earth, and He has special connections with our world.
If one Tirthankar is happy with us, that is more than enough. Is it not enough to have a place in one home? Why should we roam from one home to another? If we say our obeisance to one, it reaches all of them, and those who want their obeisance to reach all the tirthankaras, get left behind. For us one is enough. Simandhar Swami is able to reach everywhere. Here are the names of all twenty of them:
Questioner: That is more than enough. I just asked because I was curious.
All the same, let’s take a look. Just hear their names once. Since you mentioned them, why not do darshan of their names!
I pay obeisance to Shri Simandhar Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Yughmandhar Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Bahu Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri
I pay obeisance to Shri Sujat Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Swayamprabha Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Rhushabbhanan Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Anantavirya Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Soorprabha Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Vishalprabha Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Vajadhar Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri
I pay obeisance to Shri Chandrabahu Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Bhuyoung Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Ishwar Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Namiprabha Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Virsen Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri Mahabhadra Swami
I pay obeisance to Shri
20. I pay obeisance to Shri Abhivirya Swami.
The name ‘Simandhar Swami’ or ‘Yugmandhar Swami’ are not words that have originated from our language. These are the words from that world; and the words ‘I pay obeisance…’ are the words of our language. Currently there are twenty tirthankars out of which Simandhar Swami has connection with our planet earth. Tirthankars too have accounts. Simandhar Swami is presently living.
So whom should you consider an Arihant now? Simandhar Swami is the Arihant and there is no need for you to keep any connection with the remaining nineteen tirthankars; if you keep it with just one, it automatically includes the rest. So do darshan of Simandhar Swami. ‘Oh Arihant Lord, at the moment you are the true Arihant!’ Pay obeisance in this manner.
What is the connection of the Lord with the Earth?
Questioner: What connection does Simandhar Swami have with Planet Earth Bharat Kshetra?
Dadashri: When some highly elevated people take birth in some place, they have compassion for that place. Therefore there is compassion for this location; they do not forget.
Simandhar Swami has been around since the time of the eighteenth tirthankara on the planet earth. All the tirthankaras have praised Him. Thus his grace continues to flow due to this encouragement; everything here is working out as if it is His own mission. Although there are twenty current tirthankaras, everyone is accepting Simandhar Swami more; it must be due to some previous life connection. There must be previous life connection that is unfolding. A vitarag does not have any new account. What is happening now is the unfolding of a previous life account. Just as the eight different kinds of dravya karma unfold, this is unfolding in the same manner; along with that any connections are also being released. All other tirthankars accept Him too and if we do the same, we will benefit from it.
Questioner: The one who is currently moving about?
Dadashri: Yes the one currently living. He will continue to live for a very long period of time; if you make connections with him, your work; salvation will be accomplished.
Questioner: I experience the living presence of Simandhar Swami.
Dadashri: That is possible. He is currently present for sure. In His present final body he is an absolute vitraag (completely free from all attachments), he is verily a Tirthankara. Currently it is His karma to have the title of a Tirthankara. Simahdhar Swami is like ‘cash’, it does not matter that He is on another planet, but He is present never the same. ‘We-the Gnani purush and the fully enlightened Self within’ have a continuous link with Him, and this is for the definite salvation for the entire world. ‘We’ are just the evidentiary instrument in this. That is why I make you do darshan through the medium of Dada Bhagwan- the fully enlightened Lord within, and therefore it reaches Him there. That is why ‘we’ have said that there is one more life before final liberation; from here you will go to Mahavideh Kshetra and sit near the Lord. Then you will attain liberation. That is why today I am introducing Him to you and making you do namaskar (obeisance) through ‘Dada Bhagwan’.
Questioner: After attaining Atma Gnan Self-Realization through you, those who have learnt to see the Self separate from the body complex, and have learnt how to ‘see’ the pure Soul in all; where will they go from here?
Dadashri: From here they will go to another world of human beings, called Mahavideh Kshetra. There a Tirthankara is present. There after His worship happens, there will be one or two more lives and they will attain final liberation.
Questioner: You have stopped our new karma causes and when all the discharge karma are expended, we will go to moksha. So why is there a need to meet Simandhar Swami in between?
Dadashri: But what ‘we’ are saying is that ‘our’ Gnan is at 356º; ‘I’ too have to go there in order to gain four more degrees. ‘We’ are able to give you all that ‘we’ have. There is no more Gnan for you to attain; ‘we’ have given you complete Gnan for sure. But by merely doing direct darshan of the Lord, we will become like Him, that is all. Therefore only His darshan remains. You cannot attain final moksha without doing the Tirthankara’s darshan.
Obeisance to Simandhar Swami with the real viewpoint
Here when we do darshan of
Simandhar Swami, is it done from a relative viewpoint or the real viewpoint?
Dadashri: It is through the real viewpoint. We render obeisance to Simandhar Swami through the real viewpoint. And obeisance to Mahavir Swami and the twenty-four tirthankaras is done with the relative viewpoint.
Questioner: Please describe to
us the darshan of Simandhar Swami.
Simandhar Swami currently is 175,000 years old.
He will live for another 125,000 years more. He too is like Lord Rushabdev.
Rushabdev is considered the Lord of the entire universe.
Gnanis have the ability to send their energy to Him, ask questions and
return with answers. One cannot go there with his physical body, but it is
possible to be born there.
Is He the all-knowing God? Does he know what is in our hearts?
He can see us. He can see the whole
world but we cannot see Him.
Swami is at another location in the universe. All this is beyond your intellect
(buddhi) and is incomprehensible
through intellect. This fact is exact and clear in my Gnan. People will not be
able to understand this but ‘we’ understand it exactly. His will bring forth
salvation for people.
does he look like?
What does Simandhar Swami living in
Mahavideh Kshetra look like? Does
he have a physical body or is He pure formlessness?
Dadashri: He has a physical body.
What kind of a body?
You can see the body and ‘we’ can see the Soul.
You cannot see the Atma but ‘we’ can.
What is his body like? Is it like humans?
Is it like ours?
His body is just like ours. His
body is like a human body.
What is the size of His body?
size is very big indeed. He is very
tall. Everything about him is
different. His lifespan is
different. His food and liquid
intake is very different; everything is different. A lot of the work is carried
out by only the body. The energies
that feed and nourish him are different; the entity that makes everything work
within is different altogether. Even the energies that takes Him to moksha is different.
too people have the same feelings as we do.
There are people in Mahavideh Kshetra just like us; they too have bodies.
Why can we not see Him even though He has a body?
Why can we not see Him directly in front of us?
The room next door has a bed in it; can you see it?
I have knowledge that the bed is there.
Yes, but you cannot see it. Why can
you not see it? For that you need
to have kevalgnan – absolute
What does Simandhar Swami do in
He does not have to do anything!
It is all simply according to the discharging karma.
He does whatever His discharging karma dictate.
His ego about His own self is completely gone and the whole daylong He
remains in absolute knowledge, just as Lord Mahavir used to. He has many followers. People
come to do His darshan and He speaks
with total detachment vitarag bhaav.
Does Simandhar Swami give pravachan
(sermons or discourse)?
He does not give pravachan; he has deshna. He does not give
lectures and discourses; people with ego do that. Anyone who surpasses the sixth
gunasthanak (spiritual level) can give spiritual discourses.
So how do people listen to Simandhar Swami’s deshna?
He does not give updesh; he does not do lectures. He has deshna. When deshna
emanates from him, people will listen. Deshna
means he does not have to speak himself; the taped record within will play as
the speech comes forth. ‘Ours’
too is deshna, which flows forth like a taped record.
The Lord is not an owner of His speech; ‘we’ too have no ownership.
Those who give updesh or lectures have ownership that ‘this is my speech’; they will
claim ‘this is my speech’. There
is no such thing as ‘my speech.’ This too is not my speech. This speech is the taped record.
What the Lord has is called deshna.
Updesh is applicable to those who have
crossed the sixth gunasthanak; a
little egoism remains so when they speak, they beleive ‘I am speaking’ -
there is ego in their speech.
When the Lord gives deshna, what kind of karma is that?
The entire taped record is flowing and it keeps playing. It is not related to
any specific topic – it is not like that.
So the speech flows on its own?
It flows on its own. There one only listens. Deshna
is that which you simply listen.
is deshna, but our deshna has
rare traces of updesh-adesh (adesh
– directives, order, command). In
His deshna , there is no trace of
insistence. People of all race,
cast and sects listen. Everyone understands
it in his or her own language. The
animals too will understand it in their own language. ‘We’ too have had the experience that the animals
understand ‘our’ speech, but they understand it to a lesser degree whereas
they completely understand the speech of the Tirthankara.
speech of the Kevalis and the speech of the Tirthankaras
What is the difference between the speech of a kevali
the absolutely enlightened one, and that of a tirthankara?
A tremendous difference. The speech of the Tirthankara is associated with atishaya
extraordinary spiritual energies evident to all around, and the speech of
the kevalis is just like mine. Whatever
I speak, their speech is four degree superior to it.
When I attain 360º instead of 356º that I am at, then I too will speak
like the kevalis.
However, the kevalis do not help in the salvation of others. They work towards
their own salvation but will not enlighten others. No one except Tirthankaras and the bhed-vignani –
the one established in the science of the separation of the Self from the
non-Self, will help another person attain salvation.
flow of compassion from the Vitarag
Simandhar Swami must
feel compassion right?
We cannot even begin to talk of the compassion that
flows from the vitarag Lords. Behold the punyai merit karma of those who worship this Lord. His compassion
for all is equal whether people know about Him or not; whether people have
endeavored to merit this or not, His compassion is for all. Everyone should
attain this Gnan – that is the intent.
We all on this planet benefit because we make the connection with
understanding and devotion. Simandhar Swami cannot come here down to this
you invoke Him in prayers you will get the benefit.
You do not get any benefit from invoking the Siddhas.
Questioner: When you go
to do darshan of Simandhar Swami, does
He look the way He does in this picture here?
Dadashri: There is a
difference between this picture and the actual appearance there.
But you are not to regard the difference in the picture; we are only
concerned with the real element. Pictures always vary. Besides ‘my’ darshan
is not in the form of a photo, ‘my’ darshan
happened through His real state swabhavik
bhaav. We want to do the darshan
of the Tirthankara, and the One who dwells within Him.
In the picture we understand that the God within is Keval
Gnani – Absolute enlightened One. What
is within? ‘Keval
Gnani’ – in short we only need to understand this much.
absolute state of non-doership
What does the symbolic
representation-idol of Simandhar Swami suggest?
It tells us to sit like Him in padmasana
posture and do nothing. There is
nothing worth doing in this world; just sit with content.
Why are you running around like a workhorse all day long?
The world is natural. If you are not able to sit in the padmasana
position, then simply sit cross-legged, with one palm over the other like
this and sit peacefully. All the
work is done!
Is it a symbol of awakened awareness jagruti?
There is no symbol pratik for that.
Swami means the one who is the upholder of the ultimate boundary. Why is it
Dadashri: Someone must
have written that but He does not uphold any boundaries.
cannot expound on the current living One. Hey
you! We cannot say anything about Him. We
just have to do His darshan.
He is present. One cannot expound on Him.
We cannot even look at Him in this manner. Just as we do not delve deeply into the face and images of
our parents; here too we have to do the same.
We cannot even make any kind of interpretations about Him.
We cannot even use our intellect for this.
Intellect is not something to be used here.
If someone becomes over-wise, he will abuse it. Such use of intellect is
not to be done for ‘us’ too.
word symbol (pratik) does not apply
here. Say your father is very tall, so what is symbolic about him? If you keeps staring at him, your father will say, ‘Why are
you are staring? Have you lost your brains that you keep staring?’ There is no
symbolic representation of the living one. That which represents anything else
is essentially the non-Self jada. And
this here is the living Lord! The
intellect can become mad in such things.
person (sitting here) will never think in this way. To have such thoughts is
You have said that Simandhar Swami has a life span of
three hundred thousand years. After that, will He be born again?
can someone like him be subject to birth? He is the Tirthankar Lord.
He has come for the salvation of the world.
Questioner: But He
is infinite, is He not? There are
no restrictions or limitations as far as He is concerned, are there?
Dadashri: No, He
is present and that is why He is in a physical form. Lord Rama has attained final moksha
and that is why He is endless-eternal anant.
He does not have a body. As long as
He is in the physical form, the body will last so many years; that is what we
are saying. But otherwise, He is
eternal for sure. You as the Self
are immortal; He too is immortal and all these people – so many people have
become immortal along with ‘me’. They
will never die but the body is bound to die.
The body will fade just like clothes.
Questioner: If I see with
that vision, then the Soul within every body is eternal.
Only the body perishes.
Yes, but He does not have the belief, ‘I am the
body’, whereas people everywhere believe that they are the body.
The one who ceases to have any connection with the body becomes immortal.
world remains in darkness
Rama, Krishna, Allah, Christ etc. there have been many such
great Ones. But why is there so much ignorance about Simandhar Swami when He has
been around for a hundred seventy five thousand years?
There is ignorance not just about Him but also about
so many others. There is nothing
but ignorance everywhere! This
world is in darkness. Whatever they are able to see, that much light has been
shed but otherwise there is nothing but darkness.
This universe is very vast and there are others like Simandhar Swami
also. Because of a short vision
things appear the way they do in this darkness. There are enormous Indra Kings
with life spans of over two hundred thousand years.
There are beings in hell (narak);
they too have life spans of two hundred thousand years. There is no shortage of
life span there! Here in the human
form there is a shortage of lifespan. Here
only there is a problem.
is His guru?
Shri Simandhar Swami is
in a physical form. When He
attained Self-knowledge, did He have a guru?
Only a true guru, can show us the final way.
topic is not worth discussing. This is a Tirthankara lineage! He does not need
to have a guru in this life. So
many lives have been spent in making gurus.
What He has attained today is due to the status of being a guru in the
past lives. But He does not need to
have a guru in this life.
there must have been a guru in the beginning stage, no? He may not have one today, but He must have had one in the
Dadashri: Simandhar Swami is approximately 175,000 years old
now and He has not had a guru in this life. He did not have one in His previous
life either. He may have had one in
his third life before the current one. All
that has been attained today is as an effect of that.
Simandhar Swami there in the clothes of a sadhu
We cannot call him a sadhu. He is pure and
free from all tubers of the mind nirgrantha.
can we do His darshan from here?
Can we do darshan of Simandhar Swami from here?
cannot do it. You need to have a
medium for His darshan!
Dada Bhagwan can be that medium. Or
else if a derasar temple of Simandhar Swami is built, then you can do His darshan
because He is a living Tirthankara; He is the current Tirthankara of our time
and if we build his derasar people can
do His darshan. Do you want to build one?
You probably don’t have a billion rupees to do so, do you?
How can we build His derasar?
Questioner: We can do
that after we earn enough money.
It is good if people do so.
Even if you cannot pay for the entire derasar,
even if you pledge for building one step, it is good.
is my very propaganda that you learn about the Tirthankara Lord. ‘Who is the Arihant?’ If you know this then your sorrows
can decrease. Only the Arihant can
alleviate suffering in this world, not the Siddhas.
not think of Him as being indirectly accessible
country will prosper tremendously if Simandhar Swami’s temples are built.
will it prosper from that?
Dadashri: Because He is
the current living Tirthankara. The
subatomic particles parmanus of a
living Tirthankara roam around everywhere.
There is tremendous benefit to be gained from a living Tirthankara.
worships Simandhar Swami, the current Tirthankara, through His idol.
For example, say if we were around at the time of Lord Mahavir but he
could not come to us and we could not go to him, we still invoke him, sitting
here – will we not benefit just as much?
There is benefit in there, is there not?
There is. Is there a difference between worshipping
Lord Simandhar Swami in my home and
worshipping Him in the temple?
There is a difference.
Is it because pratishtha
(ceremony instilling life-energy in an idol, ideally done by a Gnani Purush) has
The idol has been made alive; life force has been
instilled through a specific ceremony. And there is also the protection from the
celestial deities over there. So there is a certain atmosphere and the effect is
greater there. There is a difference in contemplating Dada in your mind as
opposed to being here with me, is there not?
But Dada, you are living.
There is equal life in that idol too!
Just as this body of mine is living so is the idol of Lord Simamdhar. Those who
are not enlightened and Self-realized consider only this body as living. To the
Gnani, the other too, the idol is equally alive. This is because all that is
visible and with form; whether it is the idol or the physical body, both are
forms only. All that is visible and experienced through the five senses is only that
which has form; nothing formless can be ascertained through the medium of the
five senses. There is therefore no external difference between the
two. (The pratishtha of this idol of Simandhar Swami is done by the Gnani and
it is the idol of a living Lord).
But the formless One amurta
dwells within You, and the idol does not have the amurta
formless; only the form, is that right?
There is no presence of the formless
in an idol, but pratishtha of the formless has been done in it. The Gnani brings
life to the idol. It all depends upon the strength of the instillation of life
force. Pratishtha done by the Gnani is
a completely different matter altogether! The
living manifest Gnani is a different matter altogether! In the absence of a
living Gnani, you never know what types of negative things may happen.
And for many an era, there is no
manifest living Gnani.
And if there is no manifest one then
at least we have the twenty-four Tirthankaras of the past.
new karma of the highest order
we worship the Tirthankaras or the Vitarag Lords, are we discharging our karma
or are we binding merit karma?
Dadashri: After taking Gnan (after Self-realization) it is all
a discharge of karma. Whatever you
do for the Tirthankaras of the past is all discharge karma. If you do the same
for the current living Tirthankaras, then there is a little charging of new
karma . It all counts towards the charging of one or two more lives that we talk
about; whatever is left over, worship of the current Living Tirthankaras will go
towards that. Anything done for the
past Tirthankaras is discharge of karma only.
Questioner: Can we
discharge karma in that?
Dadashri: All karma come in order to discharge.
Questioner: There is
discharge in both the situations, but worship of the current living Tirthankara
leads to charging of merit karma punyai.
that comes for the worship of current Tirthankaras comes for binding new karma;
karma that bind for one or two more lives; therefore they are not discharging
but charging. That is why we say we
want to go to the current Living Thirthankara Lord Simandhar Swami, so even if
that creates new karma, so be it but we want to go there.
The karma we bind, are they punyai-anubandhi-punyai
(new merit karma being bound out of discharging old merit karma)?
Dadashri: Yes – punyai-anubandhi-punyai
and that too with the right connection. So
it is the best!
The foundation of Tirthankara lineage
is how one becomes a Tirthankara.
How does one become a
Dadashri: It happens
when one has the bhavna deep inner
intent in effect, for the salvation of the world only and nothing else.
He who is not concerned with his own salvation; he does not care about
his own pain or suffering but worries only about people’s suffering and cannot
bear their misery - such a one gradually becomes a Tirthankara.
A person who worries about only his happiness can never be anything.
The one who cannot bear to see people suffer, has a desire to bring
salvation to the world, can become a Tirthankaraa.
of what his situation maybe, whether he gets food to eat or not, whether he gets
a place to sleep – even if he has to sleep on the ground he is not bothered
and is concerned only with people’s salvation.
Who can have such a bhavna? The
one who has attained his own salvation will have this bhavna. How can anyone
who has not attained salvation for himself attain salvation for others?
One has to have this bhavna.
Questioner: But I feel why should one have bhavna
after becoming a vitarag. Such
beings are completely free from all wishes and desires, are they not?
Dadashri: They no
longer have the bhavna to do
salvation, but they did have the bhavna
in their past life and are now reaping the fruit of that bhavna. They are enjoying the status of a Tirthankara.
I do have the bhavna for the world’s salvation and so I am regarded as a
‘meddling vitarag’, whereas Simandhar Swami is considered a true vitarag.
is similar to when a person gives an examination but then never goes back to
school; the result is inevitable. The result will come; will it not?
this is and effect for Lord Simandhar, whereas here I am giving the exam
(creating causes). So I do have the
bhaav that people attain salvation.
I do have the bhaav that just as I have attained salvation, people attain the
same. The Lord does not have any bhaav
intent or cause. He did have
that in His previous life and because of that He automatically became bound in
the Tirthankara lineage and currently He is simply discharging that lineage gotra. It continues to only discharge. Therefore He has absolute compassion (karuna).
far as the Tirthankaras are concerned, whatever actions we see them carrying
out, they are not in the action itself. Whereas
I am involved in the action - I am involved in the cause whereas for Him, it is
all an effect. Effect means He has become absolute. Our (mahatmas from planet Earth or Dadashri) effect is
completed only when He speaks. These
talks are of a very subtle nature.
of pilgrimage arise wherever they walk
one who creates a tirtha a place for
pilgrimage is Tirthankara. Tirthankara
means wherever they walk, that place becomes sacred; it becomes a place of
pilgrimage. Wherever their feet
fall, that ground becomes sanctified. They create places of pilgrimage.
The Gnani is called a moving place of pilgrimage jangam
Dadashri: The Gnanis too are like them.
But the Tirthankara leave a tirtha
behind wherever they go; it is not the same with ‘us’.
They are considered Purush of
the full stage-absolute enlightenment. Currently
no such a being is expected to come on Earth and so the Gnani becomes
invaluable. Otherwise the Gnanis
are not considered as valuable as the Tirthankara.
Because we are not likely to have anyone with absolute enlightenment, the
Gnani is regarded as the enlightened One. A subordinate takes a secondary
position in the presence of his head. When the head is absent, the subordinate
becomes the chief.
is what the Lord grants you
reality, having attained Tirthankara attributes, since two prior lives, the Lord
had the bhavna for the world’s
salvation and making people happy. His
bhav was that whatever Gnan He
attained, whatever happiness He attained, may the entire world attain the same.
The effect of that bhav has materialized in this life. That bhav has
become fruitful and therefore whatever He speaks becomes a deshna. His speech is
sweet and soothing like sweet nectar; it brings about changes within
people, the moment they hear it. Tirthankara
is someone that liberates you forever the moment you see Him.
We are awe struck when we look at you Dada! We feel
so moved with your love. So what
can we say about the Tirthankara! How much more intense it must be in Mahavideha
love is not like this love. This
love is a ‘meddlesome-love’. That love is not meddlesome.
status means complete effect only
Is a Tirthankara a
God at birth or does he have to do purushartha
highest inner effort, to become one?
Dadashri: No, no!
At His very birth, He is endowed with three types of knowledge-gnan.
Questioner: They have the
three types of knowledge but they
still have to attain the remaining two do they not?
Dadashri: They do not have to do anything for that. The revelation and clarification for that will come automatically. Do we wait for the dawn to come at night? Do we have to make an effort for the dawn to arrive or does it come on its own? Moskha will come on it’s own but one must come on the correct path. The paths of the worldly people are different, those paths are of the non-Self; they are on the wrong path.
is how Tirthankara lineage is bound
What does one have to
do in order to become a Tirthankara?
One has to do
everything. There is no meaning in
asking this question.
one who turns around the flow of people from the wrong direction to the right
one will bind Tirthankara lineage gotra.
lineage of Tirthankara is not such that anyone can make the bhav for it and attain it. The
bhavna in effect, for salvation of
others must be constant; its uninterrupted continuity must become the reality.
Such a One is unaffected by
any othe bhaav. When one’s bhaav
for the salvation of the world becomes such that it is not obstructed by any
other bhaav, then one can become a Tirthankara.
lineage of Tirthankara is no ordinary phenomenon; it becomes fruitful for a rare
one, it is not for everyone.
have sixteen causal bhavs (inner
intents) for the world’s salvation and it is due to these sixteen bhavs
that He becomes a Tirthankara. The essence of those bhavs,
must become integrated in his conduct-effect. This is because the work gets
accomplished through the effect as a Tirthankara.
inclination and conduct must be such that he does not inflict suffering to any
living being whatsoever. If someone
hurts him, he accepts it as his own mistake.
Just this very point incorporates the Tirthankara’s sixteen bhavna. Understand
everything in just this short sentence.
attains that state?
Questioner: I keep thinking over and over again as to why I
cannot become a Tirthankara? Or
else go straight to moksha?
Then I learnt from you that one can become a Tirthankara only if one
binds a karma for the Tirthankara lineage.
So how can I bind karma for the Tirthankara lineage gotra?
Dadashri: If you want
to take births for another one hundred thousand years, then you can bind it.
Then I will do it for you; you will also have to go to the seventh hell
many times over. One has to go to hell many times then one will attain a
worthy status like this.
But what is wrong with going to hell in order to
attain a worthy status like that?
wisdom! Wise up!
You will realize what it is all about when you will have to endure the
severe penance of hell. And for the Tirthankara lineage you will have to endure
untold penance. If I were to
describe the intense suffering a life in hell entails, a person can die from it!
People of today can die from just hearing about it!
It will take the breath of life out of them! So don’t speak in this
manner other wise it will create a niyanu.
*(niyanu is an unflinching decision that no matter what, let all my merit
karma attain this predetermined goal).
Tirthankara is a Kshatriya
a Tirthankara is a task for the Kshatriya
warrior-protector caste. Anyone
of any caste can go to moksha, the Brahmin the priest and
educating community; the Banias the
traders etc., people of all caste can go to moksha.
Questioner: Does that have anything to do with the samskara
(innate attributes)? Is one born with certain samskara
and to only certain families? Is it like that?
are required to have the attributes of a Kshatriya,
for any other role, it is not necessary. Kshatriyas
have such a prowess that if they think they want to do something, they will do
just that and nothing else. For them a promise is a promise. A Kshatriya’s
mind will not be indecisive; that is an attribute of a Kshatriya.
Kshatriyas are hot-blooded. They
cannot see anyone suffering; that is how their blood is. All the work can be
done only when one has such a trait, can it not? Your ‘pot’ is beginning to
fill up with such traits and my ‘pot’ is full. It is a Kshatriya’s
nature that if he believes something to be true, the moment he hears it, he
will get down to work, whereas all others vacillate back and forth.
If a strong person is taking advantage of a weak one and a Kshatriya
happens to be passing by, you can easily recognize him because he will stop and
take the side of the weak person. He will even take a beating from the strong
person. This is the path to moksha, if
you stick to it, your work will be done.
in the current time cycle of Kaliyug
Up until now many
Gods, saints, have taken birth mostly in either a Kshatriya
or a Brahmin family, what is your
opinion about that?
That is true, but in this Kaliyug,
saints are born in every kind of family. This is Kaliyug
therefore everything has become deformed. There has been a birth of a saint even
in the so-called Sudra serving
community and the Vaishya the trading
caste. What you are saying was true in the past. Today, many times you see great
Kshatriya attributes in a Vaishya,
because it is a Kshatriya who is
reborn as a Vaishya. Therefore,
everything has become adulterated. This too has become adulterated just like we
get adulterated ghee (clarified
butter), and so saints are born there. That was not the case in the past. As
long as there was no adulteration, saints were born mostly in Kshatriya or Brahmin
(people of the current time cycle) is the residue of all sieves; this is the
stained residue obtained through the sifting from all the past four time cycles
down to the fifth one. Whatever little ‘mud’ happens to be stuck on it, it
will fall off with a little heat.
union of distinguishing qualities and effects
Dada, please shed some light on other distinguishing qualities of the
thirty-four kinds of atishaya special
qualities and effects; as compared to any human being - they standout. They do
not eat the regular kind of food; their food is subtle. If they ate a regular
diet, it would smell.
Is that so ?
Yes. The Lord’s
food is subtle; we cannot see it. His is very different! There is not a single
living being in this world that has the punyai
(merit karma) as He does. His every parmanu
(subatomic particle) is of the highest quality and that is why people will drink
the water that falls down from His prakshal (the ceremony of bathing the
Tirthankara), do they not?
Lord’s final physical body is absolutely beautiful and attractive lavanya. The Kevalis
(fully enlightned but not in the role of liberating others like a Tirthankara)
too have a final physical body charam
sharira but it not absolutely beautiful and attractive, whereas the
Tirthankara’s body is absolutely beautiful, it is considered a wonder in this
world. One cannot talk about or even describe His beauty; it is indescribable!
We have all seen it but you have forgotten, whereas I remember it!
cannot call Tirthankara Lord ‘dehadhari’
- as having a body. Despite having a body, He is not in the body. He remains
absolutely and continuously aware of who He is. This is in his Gnan. This is His
experience too. He is there in all the three. Whom do we call as having a body?
If one has even the slightest sense of ‘I am the body’, then he is called to
be with a body dahadhari. And the one
who does not have any, ‘I am the body’ sense then he is not dehadhari
holding a body, despite of having a body.
Tirthankaras considered swayambuddha (
attain Enlightenment without a guru) are they not?
Yes, all the
Tirthankaras are swayambuddha, but in
their previous lives they attained the Tirthankara gotra
lineage from their guru. Therefore, they are considered
relation to that; they are considered swayambuddha
because they did not have a guru in this life. It is a relative thing.
And those who became swayambuddha today, they had asked around in their past lives. The
world verily operates through asking around. Only rarely does one automatically
becomes a swayambuddha; that is an
exception. Otherwise there is no Gnan without a guru.
liberating speech of the Tirthankara: Deshna
give deshna* (deshna
speech free of egoism and ownership, speech that liberates the listener)
only once, do they not? They do not repeat it, do they? Note change in definition
However many times it comes out, the taped record plays, then it will stop. It
is dependent upon however long the ‘tape record’ plays; then it will stop.
But it stops after
five days, or seven days; does it not?
It will continue to play on and off. When
a samovasaran *(samovasaran - a very specific congregation of people,
animals, birds etc., gathered in order to listen to the Lord’s deshna)
is arranged by celestial beings. His speech automatically comes out in the form
of deshna and without any effort and ownership on His part.
when someone asks a question, do they not?
Yes, when someone asks questions.
So then He speaks
only when He is made to do so, is that so?
No, He does not
speak even when He is made to. He acts according to udaya*
(udayai – unfolding karma effect.)
As the ‘top’* turns, He simply observes it, that is all! Even His deshna
is dependent upon the fruition of karma.
(*top – Dadashri uses the analogy of the toy that dissipates previously charged energy as it spins. Similarly the karmic charging of the complex of the mind-speech-body is done in the previous life and it discharges in this life.) note changes
The speech of
Tirthankara that comes out is in accordance with the karmic account of the one
before him, His speech otherwise will not come out.
This proves that it is karma in effect (udaya).
It is like this; the Arihants - the Tirthankaras never have their own speech.
The bhav of salvation of the world has come to fruition as deshna.
Tirthankaras do not have to say anything. In all this, if a person is meant to
be liberated, then it will happen and if he is not meant to be liberated, then
it will not happen. The visible
form of the Lord remains just the
way it is. He will give deshna but
that deshna will come out only if the unfolding karma of the listener
warrants it, otherwise it will not come out. The celestial Gods and Goddesses
will make all the preparation and the Lord will automatically arrive there. To
come or to go is not in the hands of the Lord.
He moves around according to how the karma unfolds. I too, move about as
dictated by the unfolding karma.
Tirthankara’s deshna is considered maun
– silence. Please explain this supreme attribute.
The Lord did not speak His deshna; it
is the ‘taped record’ speaking. And because the taped record was doing the
talking, He does not have to say anything, did He? Therefore it is considered
silence - maun.
was the sound of the Vitarag Lords
like? It was like a sweet melodious instrument playing constantly. It was better
than the nectar in the flowers! Sweeter
than all the sweetness, higher than the highest, is the Lord’s spoken word!
How are the ‘codes’ behind the Tirthankara’s speech?
The code behind His
speech has His decision of not wanting to hurt any living being to the slightest
extent. Not only that but to not
hurt even the foundation of belief and existence of any living being.
Not even the foundation of a tree should be hurt. Such ‘codes’ are
charged only within the Tirthankaras.
Do Tirthankaras have people do vidhis
special silent ausipicious blessing for the devotee; or only
darshan internal and external visual connection of the Self?
All vidhis etc. are done only to the point where they attain Keval
Gnan – absolute enlightenment; not afterwards. Until He attains Keval
Gnan, you have to do vidhis. After
Keval Gnan you only have to do His darshan.
This darshan in itself will
give you fruits because it is complete darshan; it is not darshan
associated with any meddling. Just look how much meddling there is on ‘our’
part! Still, there is no sense that ‘I
am doing it’ in the mind; there is not even such an inner intent bhav.
I do not have the inner intent of ‘I want to do this’ and yet the
meddling is there.
of the Lord liberates
The Tirthankaras do
not have charitra moha (illusion which
is only a discharge) after they attain Keval
Gnan, do they? They only have charitra
moha before Keval Gnan, is that
Only before that. They have it only up to point of the twelfth gunasthanak*
In all there are fourteen spiritual levels.) and the thirteenth gunasthanak
means Keval Gnan has been attained.
Thereafter the Tirthankara’s speech becomes deshna.
Then if someone comes and stands in front of the Lord and bows down to the Him,
and even if that person is headed for a life in hell, the Lord will not say
anything to him. This is because He
does not meddle in anything. He does not have attachment towards one or
abhorrence towards another.
That is fine, but if a person who has sinned, hurts others tremendously; were to
come and bow down to a Tirthankara, would his sins not become lighter, so that
he would suffer less consequences?
Many of them will be burnt and destroyed.
Tirthankaras not help such people attain the Self?
They do not have
the authority to speak! They do not meddle! The taped record will play only as
much as it is meant to.
Is it possible that
a person will attain Self-realization merely by listening to taped record deshna
of the Tirthankara?
Lord is just a nimit - instrumental in
the process. Once a person receives the ‘final stamp’, he will go to Moksha; many people go to moksha.
The entire stock is ready and waiting, pending only the Lords’ final
So does one go to moksha only after he
receives the Tirthankara’s stamp?
What does going to moksha
mean? It means that one can go to moksha
only if he has done darshan of the
So that means that
doing darshan of a Tirthankara
destroys most demerit karma paap.
One should attain such a energised inner confidence
(khumari). When you do
‘our’ darshan, you will have one
or two more lives; you will have such khumari,
then once you do His darshan, you are
on the final path to the Siddha state
– complete Liberation.
That we have
already experienced; this energised inner confidence
Those other people
will attain complete khumari when they
do darshan of Simandhar Swami. What
tremendous form and aura! What
speech and everything else about Him! Anything about the Lord is completely
Of course, Dada!
You cannot attain final moksha through
this Dada’s darshan. Therefore that
much still remains; after one or two more lives, after having done the darshan
of the Lord Simandhar Swami, one then goes on to moksha.
right vision is the visa
You have said that one will attain Keval
Gnan absolute knowledge, by doing darshan
of a Tirthankara.
Not solely by doing darshan because
many people have done darshan of the
Tirthankara. We all did but at that time our readiness was not there, our vision
had not changed. We still had the wrong vision (mithya
drashti). What can the Tirthankara do with mithya drashti? The grace of the Tirthankara will flow only to those
who have the right vision - samyak drashti.
So when our readiness is there we will be able to do His darshan
and attain moksha.
That is why you have to be ready and
get this ‘visa’. Thereafter, wherever you go, you will meet one Tirthankara
or another and your work will be done.
That is exactly what you had said, that one needs the inner vision to ‘see’
(recognize and understand) the Tirthankara.
The vision to see
is what works.
So one needs to do darshan with such a
vision and he will attain salvation.
A separation will occur within. Otherwise the Lord is perfect with the full
enlightenment of three hundred and sixty degrees, but the one before Him has to
have the right vision samyak drashti.
Mahavir reveals all about Simandhar Swami
Many times we are
told and it has also been written that Lord Mahavir became a Tirthankara in the
thrird life after He attained right vision samyak
darshan; what is the true account of this? Who has written all this?
It is something that was disclosed by the Tirthankaras. They disclosed
after ‘seeing’ with their vision and Lord Mahavir has disclosed who is going
to become the Tirthankaras in the next chovisi
- the next succession of twenty-four Tirthankaras in the coming time-cycle.
Generally the last Tirthankara in a chovisi
will disclose information about the Tirthankaras of the next chovisi
before they attain salvation.
Lord Mahavir disclosed everything; even about Lord Simandhar Swami. Lord Mahavir knew that there was not going to be a presence of an Arihant on the Earth after His departure for a very long time. Whom would people worship? So He disclosed that there are twenty Tirthankaras and Lord Simandhar Swami is one of them. All this, the current worship of Simandhar Swami has started after He disclosed this. Lord Mahavir showed the path and later Kundkundacharya picked up on it.
While giving the final deshna, did Lord Mahavir have thoughts ?
Lord Mahavir had thoughts until the end but his thoughts were such that they
come and go with each samaya* (samaya – the smallest unit of time). You
can call that a nirvichara state – a state free of thoughts. Just like
in a wedding when guests come to greet us - they come one after another and move
on. As one goes the next one comes.
A thought will spring up as the karma for it unfolds; then one will have
that thought, it will pass, and the karma ends.
Then the next karma will arise to give its effect. This is how karma
arises and sets. The one in nirvichara state will not get stuck with any
thought. The Lord does not have tubers of the mind; they are all gone. Therefore
thoughts do not bother Him. I too am not bothered by thoughts.
Is it true that Lord Mahavir’s body exuded exquisite fragrance? I have heard
that but I do not actually know that.
That fragrance does not mean that it smelt like jasmine or the night
lily; nothing like that! Fragrance means that when you sit with Him, the
parmanus (subatomic particles) released by his body gives you an experience of
fragrance within, very easily. That is what you experience. He is not a rose
that He has a scent!
is Mahavideh Kshetra? What is it like?
Where is Mahavideh kshetra where
Simandhar Swami currently moves about?
It is completely separate from our planet. The two planets are separate. It is
not possible to go there physically.
is in this universe but it is too cold for aeronautics to go there. Man cannot
go there. That is why all galaxies are separate. The areas in between are too
cold for anyone to go there.
Is Mahavideh Kshetra within or outside the solar system of our universe?
It is within the universe, nothing is outside of that.
Where in the universe is Mahavideha Kshetra?
It is in the north northeast ishaan
Where in the north northeast? Is the
north northeast a relative thing?
This whole universe itself is relative. Whatever you experience through these
senses is not real at all.
town you live in, it has north south; there is no such thing as north south in
the world. For you when it is sunrise in the east, for others it is setting in
the west. Therefore it is not absolutely correct. Whatever you see with your
eyes is not absolutely correct.
What is Mahavideh Kshetra like?
It is like this place, populated with humans; whatever you see here is what you
see there too. There are fifteen other places in the universe like this, which
are suitable for humans to live in. It is not possible to go from one world to
the other due to the atmosphere in between. The atmosphere around every kshetra
location ends near it and therefore one cannot go across. The Gnanis can see all
Have you had any experience with Mahavideh Kshetra? If so, what is there?
The humans beings there are like the humans who were here during the fourth
Ara (One of six divisions of one half of a Time Cycle) during the time of
Lord Mahavir. There are shops, farming, businesses etc. just like we have here.
There are human beings there just like us and their activities are like ours
too. Just like us, they have daughter-in-law and mother-in-law, king, guards and
They must have gatherings like this over there too, right?
You know! There the gatherings are much larger. What is this gathering compared
to the ones over there? You cannot even begin talk about the gatherings there.
Dada, isn’t the life span long
Yes, they have a very long life span;
otherwise they are just like us. Their day-to-day conduct is just like ours used
to be during the fourth time cycle. People of this fifth time cycle have learnt
to steal from others and gossip amongst their relatives. Such interactions are
not to be found there.
the Fourth Ara reins eternally
Is there always a third and the fourth Ara
There is always the fourth Ara there,
no third Ara, only the fourth.
Is worldly interaction sansar
there similar to ours here?
Yes, people bind karma there too. They
also have the awareness of, ‘I am the ‘doer’. They also have ego, anger,
pride, deceit and greed. There is a presence of Tirthankaras there right now
because of the fourth time cycle; otherwise everything there is just like it is
here. Was Lord Ramchandraji not here on earth during the fourth Ara?
Why does the fourth Ara exist there
Just as we have continuous six
month long nights and continuous six month long days in some places here, in the
same token, there the fourth Ara
reigns forever. That is the nature of that place. This whole universe is round.
Within that round is its location. In certain locations, this is how it is
forever. It is easy to understand this, is it not?
In what other way this Mahavideh Kshetra can be considered different from our
Yes, completely separate. Tirthankaras
continue to be born in Mahavideh Kshetra, whereas here, in our Bharat Kshetra,
Tirthankaras are born only during a certain period of the time cycle. During
certain time periods, there are no Tirthankaras here. But at the moment,
Simandhar Swami is present for us. He is going to live for a very long time. He
was born at the time of the eighteenth Tirthankara on this Bharat Kshetra.
of Mahavideh Kshetra
Can you give us more details about
Mahavideh Kshetra? Is it true what is written in our scriptures about Mount Meru
being so many jojans (a measurement of distance equal to eight miles)
It is true. It is exact. It is all measured and calculated, even the life span.
Yes, everything is according to calculations. In the middle of the universe is
this world of ours. There are a total of fifteen such worlds. The middle
world/plane is round. People are not able to understand anything more about
this. The atmosphere between the different planes is such that it is not
possible for one to go from one plane to another. There are fifteen worlds where
human beings can take birth and live. Ours is one of them. Besides the Earth,
there are fourteen other locations where there are human beings just like us.
People of Bharat Kshetra are
of Kaliyug (the current Ara
of lack of unity in thoughts, speech and acts) and those of Mahavideha Kshetra
are of Satyug (fourth Ara
where people have unity in thoughts, speech and acts). In some places (five
Bharat Kshetras and five Airavat Kshetras) there is Kaliyug
and in some places there is Satyug.
That is how humans are and there in Mahavideh Kshetra, Lord Simandhar Swami
Mahavideh Kshetra that you are talking about, has science progressed there too
as it has here? Do they have planes and cars as we do here?
There are no such mechanical planes there; there they have mantric
(they can travel through the energy of mind) planes. Here we have yantric (mechanical), there they have mantric; therefore they do not
need engine-oil etc. to run them. Whereas the mechanical ones will not fly
without oil or will stop altogether. That is why we have four engines, do we
not? If all four stop working, the plane will not fly.
Do they speak the Sanskrit language in Mahavideha
It may be Sanskrit-language of the learned, or it may be prakrit
common language but it is more likely to be Sanskrit. So we do not know
whether it is prakrit or some other.
But here we are using Gujarati language to invoke Him and it reaches Him. The
importance is not in the name but in our bhav.
We have bhav towards him.
Besides, we definitely have the name, do we not? People ask, ‘do they
have similar names as we do? Yes, the names there are like those here; the very
Did you ‘see’ those names in Gnan?
I do not know all the names. I have talked about all the names I do know, other
names are not known. Some others have been acquired.
So are you giving other names based on the scriptures?
Wherever they may have come from, they have been acquired. I have come to know
about some of the things, but not in much detail. The rest has been acquired
knowledge, but I looked into that information and verified it. We know and
understand things that concern us, but don’t we have to call and find out
about things that do not concern us? Nevertheless,
all these are facts.
aim is to accomplish the goal of Liberation
Our Bharat Kshetra lies in Jambudweep, there must be many other such kshetras,
are there not?
No, there are no others like this. These fifteen worlds are all there is; there
are no others. Even the fifteen we are talking about are very vast. Also the
universe is very vast. When we talk about them, people assume that they are like
our states, such as Gujarat state, etc. No, it is not like that. It is very
vast. They do not even have any connection with each other. There is no
connection between this Bharat Kshetra and other Bharat Kshetras, either.
Then how many Kshetras like this are there?
These are the only fifteen Kshetras there are. And what is the point of knowing
all of them? All we have to realize and understand is that Mahavideh Kshetra is
there, and it is of benefit to us. The rest of the universe is vast. If someone
asks us, ‘How many hairs do you have?’ What is the point of knowing that?
However many there are, they will grow back when you cut them. Just discuss what
is of benefit to you, why bother about things that do not concern us? When you
do business is it to earn money or to show that your wheat grain is better than
others? It is to earn money; therefore the aim is to get something out of it.
It is more than enough just to pay obeisance to the Tirthankaras and the
Panch Parmeshti (enlightened beings in the five categories mentioned in the Navkar Mantra). Our
concern is to gain something out of it.
the Tirthankaras are in Mahavideh only
There are fifteen kshetras habitable worlds and there are twenty Tirthankaras in the
universe, how can that be?
Do not get into mathematics! There are twenty and there are even seventy
sometimes. It has not been decided that there should be only twenty.
Is it because there is one kshetra within another kshetra?
They are never to be found in certain
kshetras. There are absolutely none in ten of the other kshetras.
They are currently only in five kshetras.
Do not try to figure out all this otherwise you will go crazy.
is definitely in Mahavideha Kshetra
In the Namaskar Vidhi, one of the obeisances says, ‘I pay obeisance to the
living Tirthankaras currently in the Mahavideh Kshetra and other kshetras.’
So in the current time, besides the Mahavideha Kshetra, are there Tirthankaras
present in any other kshetras?
Yes, they are in other kshetra. In the five Mahavideh means others kshetras.
Others means that there this one Mahavideha Kshetra and there are also four
other Mahavideha Kshetras, are there not?
Yes, that is true. That is true as other kshetras. So then was there a need to
put the word ‘other’ in the Vidhi?
No. There again there is no need to delve deeper into this; it is better to
remain superficial in it. You will attain moksha
quicker if you remain simple and straightforward and get your work done. There
is no gain in losing your naivety. Some naivety is good.
Therefore the words ‘other kshetra’, can people think of Bharat kshetra if
they want to?
People do not have that much understanding. If we do not write ‘other kshetras’,
it will mean that He is in only one kshetra. But only certain people will feel
that, not all. And the other four Mahavideha Kshetras can be called
‘others’, can they not? Besides one, the rest are considered others, are
is the proof of Mahavideh Kshetra?
We talk about Mahavideh Kshetra, but we have never seen it and we do not know
much about it. So then what is the proof that there is a Mahavideha Kshetra? Is
there any proof of that?
There definitely is a proof. Every word I speak is a precise and scrutinized
word. I am not a simple and gullible person that I would not scrutinize the
tiniest thing. I have more energies and capacity to scrutinize than you do.
Whatever is said very precisely scrutinized by ‘me’. Dada Bhagwan has
manifested within me and that too, one hundred percent! This phenomenon has
never occurred before in this world.
Then how will we know that we have arrived at Mahavideha Kshetra; something that
we have never seen before? How will we know whether what we see is real or an
Your karmic account itself will take you there. You do not need to go there or
need to think about going to Mahavideh Kshetra. Whatever standard you are worthy
of, that standard will pull you there; it will not let you stay here. The Gnan
that I have given you will make you worthy of that standard.
Nature of Mahavideha Kshetra
Can a ‘down fall’ occur in Mahavideha Kshetra? Can a person decline?
There is no such thing as ‘up’ over there. There is no such thing as one can
go to a higher or a lower station there, for the ones who are Self-realized.
They do not bind karma there, do they?
Everyone (except an Atma Gnani – one with Self-realization) binds karma; no
one can escape karma, can he?
Once having gone there, one’s progress is only towards moksha,
is it not?
No, there is no such rule. There are many who did not get anywhere. Many over
there are part of a wandering crowd. If anyone becomes ready with Atmagnan and
goes to Mahavideha Kshetra from here, his work will be done. But people there
keep wandering around.
What is Mahavideha Kshetra like? It is just like what we had here during
the fourth Ara. Only certain people
have gone to moksha in the fourth Ara,
the rest have not. No one graduates out of this, do they? They do not find the
path to moksha, do they? One is not
hungry for moksha in the fourth Ara,
and in the fifth Ara when one is
hungry; there is no path to moksha
available. There in the fourth Ara,
the work goes on slowly as a routine.
of the Mind-Body-Speech Exists Over There!
what is the difference between the fourth and the fifth Ara?
The only difference between the two is that in the former, there is unity of
mind, speech and body, whereas in the fifth Ara,
this unity is broken. People in the fifth Ara
do not say what they think and they do not do what they say, while in the fourth
Ara, people say and do exactly what is
in their mind. If a person living in the fourth Ara says he feels like burning down the whole village, you can be
assured that he will do so. Whereas today, there is no substance in what people
say or think. When a person tells you he is going to burn your house down, you
know that he is still thinking about it. When is he likely to come face to face
with you? Even though he has said
it, there is no substance to it. He
may tell you he is going to kill you, but what is he basing it on?
There is no basis. There is no unity of mind, speech and body, then how can he
do what he says he is going to do? It will not happen. This was not the case
three thousand years ago. The way things were here three thousand years ago is
exactly what it is like over there in Mahavideh Kshetra. Today here the mind is
different, the speech is different and the conduct is different – have you
seen this in people? Everyone has had this experience firsthand.
What is it like there now? A person will speak and act exactly as what
is on his mind. Whereas here, in
his mind he wants to hurt you but he speaks with you very nicely telling you,
‘I am ready to do whatever you tell me.’ That is how much things have
changed. Therefore from here, everyone goes to a lower life form (adhogati)
and from there, they move on to a higher life form (urdhvagati). Over
there, when a person tells you, ‘I will abduct your daughter’, realize that
he will do so for sure. Whereas here a person may say that he will kill you and
then do nothing. They get angry, that is all. They just say things but they do
not carry them out. There, they will definitely kill you if they say they are
going to! Here, the fifth Ara, means dusham
kaal which means that even when you want to maintain equanimity, you will be
able to do so only through great difficulty otherwise you will not at all. And
in Mahavideha Kshetra the time is called susham
kaal where equanimity is easily maintained.
You had once said that jealousy, aversion and love exist even in Mahavideha
Kshetra, does it not?
Exactly what you have here; there is no difference.
Are they all not considered kashayas (anger, pride, deceit and greed)?
They are definitely kashayas.
Then why should that be so in Mahavideha Kshetra? Should it not be
different over there?
No, it is not like that. Kashayas were present even in the fourth Ara here. Lord Rama’s
wife was abducted even when Rama was the King. This will go on like this.
fourth Ara in Mahavideh
Is there a rule that if a person is born in Mahavideha Kshetra, he will go to moksha?
No, there is nothing like that. There are pickpockets and kidnappers there too,
but there the fourth Ara prevails continuously and so there is always a presence of a
Tirthankara Lord there. Also people there have oneness of mind, body and speech,
whereas that is not the case here. Otherwise there too are people who are liars,
cheaters, and cunning as we do here. In Mahavideha Kshetra it is like here too;
it is exactly like this, they too pick pockets. Even the people and their names
are like ours. Now, when people here attain a unity of mind, body and speech,
they will be automatically pulled up there due to the nature of that location.
And those who have lost such unity over there will be pulled here due to the
nature of this location.
We know that we do not have the unity of our mind, body and speech. Do they know
that they speak what is in their minds? Do they have such power of observation?
Yes, of course! They have all the energy and also great awareness. Where is the
awareness in the people here?
Then people there do not have any interference and its effects dakhodakhal?
There is a lot of interference.
Then how can they maintain the unity of mind, body and speech with so much
No that unity will remain but interference still goes on.
purpose of going to Mahavideha Kshetra
When a person says something and does exactly what he said he was going to do
and when everything happens accordingly, how will his doer-ship in it go away?
He attains nothing but agnan (ignorance), does he not?
It will strengthen it-doership.
But people here wish to go to Mahavideha Kshetra.
The reason to go to Mahavideha Kshetra is that the one, whose doer-ship is gone,
goes to moksha. He will attain moksha
if he meets a Tirthankara there. That is all. All he needs is darshan of the Tirthankara. There is a Tirthankara there and yet
people do not do His darshan, they do
not care. Only a few people care for moksha,
Many people have inner intent of going to Mahavideha Kshetra from here.
Yes, but they have to go to Mahavideha Kshetra to go to moksha!
They will find the ultimate instrument to go to moksha.
Is it not possible to go to moksha directly from here?
No, not directly from here. Direct route to moksha
from here is closed because of the lack of unity in mind, speech and body.
One has to go through one more life before he can go to moksha
from here. When one life is left one has to go to Mahavideha Kshetra. We will
meet a Tirthankara there, will we not? Just His mere darshan
will give you liberation. There is no need to learn anything else there.
When the people there who despite having unity of the mind, speech and body
cannot do darshan, then how will those
who do not have such unity here, do the darshan?
But these people who have attained Self-realization can do it because
their inner intent is to attain moksha.
That is why they have attained this Akram science, have they not? This lack of
unity that prevails is due to this current era of the time cycle. Over there,
the era is good and thus the unity prevails.
can one go there?
Under what conditions can one go
there, if one wants to?
One has to become like those who live
over there. If he attains the qualities of the people living in the fourth time
cycle, if he loses the negative characteristics, which prevail during the fifth
time cycle, he can go there. For example, if someone were to insult you and you
have no bad feelings or thoughts towards that person whatsoever, and then you
will go there.
So in this life you should come to a final solution which will bring
about a change in location for you. Become such that you will be free from
expectations from others. As
you deal with each account with equanimity, you will become worthy of that
location of Mahavideha.
One goes to Mahavideha Kshetra as his attributes change. Currently the
fifth Ara is operating here.
Therefore, attributes of humans of the fifth Ara have become worse than the attributes of the people of the
fourth Ara. Now, if the Gnan that I
give them improves their attributes; if they do not interfere, if they do not
hurt others, then the nature of location is such that they will be automatically
pulled away from here to where the fourth Ara prevails. The
fourth Ara prevails forever in
Mahavideha Kshetra and in only the fourth Ara
do you find a Tirthankara. You will not find a Tirthankara in any place in the
fifth Ara. Therefore, from here when a
person’s nature swabhav changes, he
will find a Tirthankara in the Mahavideha Kshetra.
One’s nature changes due to the energy of this Gnan and so he becomes
incompatible with people here. People with nature like ours have moved on and we
no longer have compatibility with those who remain here. So what good is it for
us to stay here? Our crowd has gone away so whom can we interact with here?
Therefore, after attaining our Gnan, many of our mahatmas are going to be pulled
away to Mahavideh Kshetra. But we cannot say that it happens right away, one may
have to spend one more life here before going to Mahavideha Kshetra.
through His darshan
Why are we going to Mahavideha Kshetra? It is because we can constantly
do darshan of the Tirthankara Lord;
that is the only benefit in going there. The embodied soul that goes there -
goes only for the Tirthankara; there is no other intent. So whosoever goes from
here is going to run only after the Lord, is he not? He will get his work done
in one or two life times.
who receive this Gnan will have one or two more lives only. They have to go to
Simandhar Swami and do His darshan.
That is all that remains for them. His very darshan
This darshan is higher than
the darshan of Dada. Once this darshan
is done, moksha occurs.
one come back here?
Can one who has gone to Mahavideha Kshetra come back here?
It is possible, but our mahatmas do not have to come back here. Many others do
come back, do they not?
But is there not a presence of Lord Simandhar Swami there? Then why does that
happen? Will there not be influence of the Lord?
There are people who will not obey the Lord. You know, they use to curse even
Lord Mahavir! ‘You are Mahavir but we are not ordinary either.’ They will
say that; there are all kinds of people! In Mahavideha Kshetra, it is just like
what we have here. You have all kinds, black and white. There is no difference.
The only difference is that there are Tirthankaras there.
Whatever one’s marks, examination results are; so are his attributes
and based on that, a jiva (living being) worthy of Mahavideha Kshetra
will not last here very long. He cannot survive here and therefore he will go
there. And in Mahavideha Kshetra, any being
that are like the ones we have here in dusham
kaal, will have to come here. Therefore one’s inner attributes are what
determines his location.
The kind of stock that exists in this dusham kaal (time where equanimity is maintained with great
difficulty); you will not find that in Mahavideha Kshetra. The stock that was
here in the fourth Ara, is what is
there right now. The rotten stock that is here will get cleansed here. It will
go through the fifth and the sixth Ara.
The same thing continues over and over again. From here, some will go away to
So one life in a hundred thousand must be coming back here from
Mahavideha Kshetra, is that so?
No, few more, hundred in a hundred thousand come back because that stock keeps
getting bad. That bad stock, tainted stock comes here but how can the bad stock
from here go up there? Yet some beings are such that they do. After Lord Mahavir,
some have gone to Mahavideha Kshetra, but only very few.
worthy for Mahavideha Kshetra
Therefore, our mahatmas are going to be worthy. When you do not have a
negative thought towards someone doing wrong to you, it means that you have
become worthy. Do you think negatively about someone who curses you or insults
Therefore you have become worthy. Is it easy to deal with someone with
Do people become unworthy there too?
They are going to be like that everywhere. The attributes within cannot refrain
from manifesting their nature, can they? The inherent nature of an embodied soul
is not likely to change, is it? We have attained the Self and therefore that yoga
union (with the Lord) will occur automatically. If you say, ‘I do not want to
come’, it will say, ‘No, but where else can we put you? You are not worthy
of any other place but Mahavideh Kshetra.
Solution to mahatma’s puzzle
Dada, can one go to Lord Simandhar Swami for sure, by remembering him?
The decision to go there is already made. There is nothing new about it,
but constant rememberance of the Lord, nothing else or new will creep in.
Maya – illusionary attachment will not creep in when
Dada or Simandhar Swami is constant with you in your mind. Maya
would not come here right now.
Having taken this Gnan, you are in the process of being prepared for
Mahavideh kshetra! I do not have to do anything. This is the natural law.
How can one go to Mahavideh kshetra? Is it through merit karma punyai?
When you follow my Agnas (Instructions
from The Gnani after Gnan) you are binding merit karma that will take you to
Mahavideh Kshetra. By following the Agnas, you are in dharmadhyana
(meditation devoid of anger, pride, greed or deceit), and that will give
rewards. As long as you remain within my Agnas, you are binding that much merit
karma, the fruits of which, you will enjoy in the presence of the
We want to take birth in Mahavideha Kshetra, is it possible to attain that?
Yes, why not? Surely, only those who are in the fourth standard can be placed
into the fifth standard, after they pass the examination. In this manner the
nature of the kshetra takes one lifetime to take one over there. Therefore,
those whose nature becomes worthy of the fourth Ara,
the kshetra where the fourth Ara
prevails, will pull them there. And those in the fourth Ara
who are worthy of the fifth Ara, this
fifth Ara will pull them here from
over there. There you have to sit near Lord Simandhar Swami and you will attain moksha.
You can do final darshan there. That darshan is higher than the darshan
you do of ‘me’. I am at three hundred and fifty six degrees and the Lord is
at three hundred and sixty degrees. Therefore such a darshan will occur there. Now you need that kind of darshan.
That includes everything. You attain moksha
when you have that darshan.
Will Simandhar Swami agree to keep us near Him know our impure and unbecoming
At that time, your conduct will no
longer be like this. By abiding in my Agnas in this life, you will receive
benefits in your next life. These benefits will be realized in Mahavideh kshetra.
Your present conduct, however inappropriate it may be, is something you have
brought with you from your past life. You did not consult me when you created
We will just show Dada’s visas.
Your work will be done the moment you show the visa. You will experience endless
bliss at the mere sight of the Tirthankara. The entire world will fall into
oblivion. You will not feel like eating or drinking anything. Everything would
have come to an end by then. You will attain the niralamb
(that which has no dependence) Self; completely free and independent! Then there
will be no dependency on anything.
will the mahatmas go?
All the mahatmas will be going straight to Mahavideha Kshetra, will they not?
Some may have to come here for one more life and then go there. One will have to
settle all karmic accounts that lie pending, will he not? All accounts that has
been bound, will have to be settled. He may have a ten to fifteen years worth of
karmic stock that will have to be dealt with; he has no choice but deal with it
and only then will he be able to proceed. Will
one not have to settle up all accounts? Prior to attaining this Gnan, if you
have bound a bad karma for which a penalty has been assessed, you have no choice
but face that penalty, do you? But
you are free after paying off the penalty, which may take one more life.
So does anyone slip and toally lose out; after taking Gnan?
No one does not.
After attaining this Gnan can one ever lose it all, forever?
No, but if a person does not attain this Gnan, then he goes off on the wrong
path, speaks ill of others; then there is no telling what will become of him.
Do all those who do Simandhar
Swami’s darshan attain moksha?
Merely doing His darshan
will not lead to liberation. One has to receive His grace. One’s heart
should become pure. As one’s heart becomes pure, His graces flows in
naturally. People go to listen to Him and what they hear sounds wonderful to
their ears but they do not make any progress. This is because they still have a
desire to enjoy trivial worldly things. It is like having a platter full of
delicious food but because the pickle is missing, a person does not eat. People
forget their moksha in pursuit of
So if we go to Mahavideha Kshetra and do Simandhar Swami’s darshan,
will we attain moksha or not?
That will happen, because you have taken Gnan. Therefore when you go to
Mahavideha Kshetra and when appropriate circumstances come together, then it
will happen. The two to three lives that remain for you are the result of
following the Agnas which I have given you. This yields tremendous punyai
(merit karma) so when you go there from here you will not have to build a
bungalow, it will be ready for you even before you are born. Those with such
merit karma do not have to work at all. It is the parents who will have to do
all the work.
You can also go there after one lifetime and
you will also be able to actually touch Him.
Yes Dada! We will get that chance,
You will have all the opportunities,
why not? You are in deep praise of His name and you pay obeisance to Him. We
have to go there, and that is why we say to the Lord, “Dear Lord, although You
are there and we cannot see You, but through the worship of the idol in your
image we are doing your darshan”. We do
the darshan near the twelve feet idol
of Simandhar Swami, then we recite and talk of Him. This is beneficial if the
idol is of a living One (Arihant). The signature of the one has departed does
not work. This one works for us. He is the Arihant.
Mahavideha Kshetra will we be on the kramik path or Akram path?
Akram will be there for you. The ego will not arise at all.
What else should the one who has taken Gnan and wants moksha,
do if he wants to go there for the darsahn
of Simahdhar Swami?
You do not have to do anything. Abide by my agnas. These agnas themselves will
take you to moksha. Nothing else is
worth doing. The fact that you
abide by the Agnas is the circumstance; this circumstance that I am; will bring
you to ‘me’. You will not have to look for it.
who have attained the awareness of their pure Self
(Self-Realization) here, will no longer be able to remain in Bharat
Kshetra. It is a principle that those who have the awareness of the Soul will go
to Mahavideh Kshetra. They will not be able to remain in this dusham
kaal. Having the awareness laksha
of the pure Soul, they will spend one or two more lives at Mahavideh Kshetra,
there they will do darshan of the
Tirthankara and then attain moksha.
That is how easy and simple this
path of Akram Vignan is.
in my agnas. The Agnas itself is dharma
(religion); the Agnas itself is tapa (penance).
Everything has to be settled with equanimity. From all the Agnas that you have
been given, abide by as many as you can. If you abide by them completely, you
can experience the bliss similar to that of Lord Mahavir! Go on ‘seeing’ the
real and the relative, so your chit
will not go anywhere else.
If you abide by ‘our’ five Agnas after attaining Gnan, then it is
possible to remain in a state like that of Lord Mahavir. I myself stay like
that! I have shown you the same path that I have taken and the gunasthanak (spiritual
level) that has manifested in me is the same gunasthanaka that you have attained.
Dada being in the direct presence of your pure consciousness and being touched
by your speech, which is the manifest Goddess Saraswati, when we bow down to
Lord Simandhar Swami, does our obeisance reach Him?
When I give you Gnan, I ‘sit-take a permanent place’ within you. Therefore
your obeisance definitely reaches Him. He
who has attained Gnan and remains in ‘our’ Agnas, his obeisance will
definitely reach Him. Whether you are able to remain in ‘our’ Agnas in whole
or partially is a different matter altogether; but at least you are abiding by
them! Some people may do to a lesser extent.
Karma can no longer bind you after you take this Gnan. The one who was
doing the karma, is no longer the doer, therefore he does not bind new karma.
Therefore, now the state of samvar (prevention of new karma inflow) will
prevail constantly. Karma is being discharged without new one being charged.
You will bind karma for only one or two more life times, because you are
abiding by the Agnas. And for that you will have to go to Lord Simandhar Swami.
Mahavideha Kshetra itself will pull you up there because he whose artadhyana
(adverse meditation that hurts the self) and raudradhyan (adverse
meditation that hurts the self and others) have ceased, cannot remain in this
kshetra. Mahavideha Kshetra itself will pull him up there. No one is there to
take him there.
You are going to take us there, are you not?
To Lord Simandhar Swami.
Yes. I will definitely take you there. That
is why I am sitting here - to take all of you there. What am I going to do by
going there alone? And the Lord is pleased with us. He is pleased with our
mahatmas and with our Akram Vignan. You see Him happy, do you not?
Our mahatmas who go there, will they be coming back?
They will not. They will never come back. They have progressed through this
science and therefore they will never fall.
Simandhar Swami is there. You go there
everyday to do His darshan, how is
that possible? Can you explain that please?
I go there but I cannot go there
everyday for darshan. From my left
shoulder springs forth a light form and this goes where Simandhar Swami is and
returns with solutions to all the questions. Whenever any clarification is
needed, the light goes there and returns with the answers. Otherwise Mahavideh
Kshetra is not such that I can physically go back and forth!
Gnani Purush has the direct link
with Simandhar Swami
That sharira body of Yours, that goes
to Lord Simandhar Swami, is there any component of the Self Atma
That is the pratisthit atma (the
relative self). What would happen to this body if the main Self were to go
there? Nevertheless the part that goes there is a part of the Self-the
enlightened Self. What goes there
is in the form of the light prakash,
knowledge energy, of the Self. So if ever ‘I’ want to ask something, then
all solutions will come, although for the most part, ‘I’ do not have to ask
much. Rarely there is something that is not quite clear, which needs to be
unentangled, and it gets resolved.
So does the kshetra (location) of the Self stretch for that much space?
It leaves as a physical body; it is a pudgalic
bhav component of the non-Self complex with a purpose and intent. It is mishra
chetan (the mixture of the Self and
the non-Self) which goes there and comes back with solutions to all the
questions. And only a Gnani has that special energy, others do not.
have a direct connection with Simandhar Swami. I ask all the questions to Him
and they are all answered. To date hundreds of thousands of questions have been
asked and the answers have been given to the world by me. I do not answer them
independently. I cannot answer all the questions. Is it easy to answer
questions? A person cannot answer even five questions without creating an
argument. Here the answers are very precise. That is why we worship Simandhar
is the special prowess of the Gnani only
Could the Yogi Purushes (those who had
attained special spiritual energies through sadhana
self effort) of the past go to another world kshetra
with their subtle body?
No one can go like that. Only the Gnanis can do that; a ‘body’ leaves from
the shoulder here, and it goes there.
What body is that?
It is a kind of a body. It is in the form of a light prakash,
which leaves and returns with solutions. There is no need for anything else
there, is there? It is not going there for dinner. It goes there to ask the Keval Gnani – the fully enlighted One, and returns with the
But does it adjust with the body when it returns?
It becomes absorbed with it; it is a different kind of a body.
But Dada, is such a thing possible?
Yes, it is possible and it is scientific. It can be proven through science. It
is not a fabrication. People call
that as going sadehe (with the body).
But they interpret it according to their own understanding, which is
going with the visible body, but it is not like that.
of doing darshan
I want to do darshan of Lord
Simandhar Swami, on tis day, and am willing to remain in satsang
with you as long as it takes. Promise me that this goal of mine will get
accomplished today, because I have come here after a lot of thinking, and firm
resolution. I am making this one special request, am begging you, togive me the
vision of this path, that You have.
What will you do with the darshan?
What is left after I do darshan?
If a drunk wants to do darshan of a king, if you take him to the king, what darshan
is the drunk going to do? He may say something wrong and abusive. So you cannot
have a drunk do darshan of a king.
Similarly, these humans who live through their moha
(illusionary behavior), who have drunk the ‘liquor of moha’, you cannot have them do darshan
of the Lord, because he may invite a lower life form for himself by speaking ill
of the Lord. The darshan is to be
facilitated when he has become free from the intoxication from worldly pleasures
and thus becomes worthy. If you take him to darshan before he is worthy, he may say something negative like,
‘Simandhar Swami - he is so huge, he does not wear any clothes etc.’ This darshan
is of use only after one becomes worthy. For now, just do namaskar
to ‘Dada Bhagwan’.
Gnani, the Representative of Tirthankara
molded for moksha through Gnani Puursh
When do you see a big smile on the face of the Tirthankara? It is when
He sees Gnanis. He sees them as the supreme group of people, who prepare
everyone and send them to Him. The Gnani will prepare all of them and send them
there. The Gnanis do all the work.
The Tirthankaras do not have to do anything. The ‘prepared stock’ (people
ready for liberation) come to Him. The molding and the preparation has to be
done by us – the Gnanis and in return He is very happy with ‘us’, very
happy indeed! That is why we all do
namaskar (bow down) through this Dada Bhagwan and it reaches all the way to
the Lord. Otherwise, not a single namaskar
of anyone reaches correctly. What will He do with the one that is not through
the medium of Dada Bhagwan- the Self?
‘We’ have a relation-connection with Lord Simandhar Swami. ‘We’
have taken on responsibility of moksha
of all the mahatmas. ‘We’ take responsibility for anyone that abides by
will the next birth of Dada be?
You are working for the salvation of the world right now, but surely eventually
that desire will subside in time? When that desire comes to an end, where will
You take birth?
It will never end. The result of the desire for world’s salvation will be
realized when the body departs. Then whatever desire for salavation is left at
that time when that comes into effect and finishes, then moksha
will occur. The current desire is the final desire. ‘I – the
Self’ have nothing to do with it nevertheless, it is still a desire in
effect. There is no freedom from the worldly life as long as there is even a
single desire. However this is the desire of intent in past life; it is not a
new desire of today. Desires which have been accumulated as causes in the past
life will materialize and will eventually discharge.
This desire of yours – is it a charge for an effect later?
No, this desire is in the form of a discharge, it is not in the form of a
charge. Now it will come to an end, when all karma of this body comes to an end;
the deires will all come to an end. The discharge will come to an end. What was
previously charged is now being discharged. Whether I like it or not –
discharge is inevitable.
When these desires come to an end, will this body remain forever?
No, a new body will arise. That body will go through Mahavideha Kshetra, before
going to moksha. It will spend its
punyai (merit karma) in one or two life times and then go on to moksha.
Punyai will be bound, for doing salvation of the world here. Also Tirthankara
naam karma (lineage of Tirthankara) is also a possibility! The actual effect
of becoming a Tirthankara may also happen and that too will have to be accepted.
reaches through Dada Bhagwan
When we do namaskar to Lord Simandhar Swami, we say, ‘Pratyaksh
Dada Bhagwan ni shakshi ye…in the presence of Dada Bhagwan’. What is the
difference between saying ‘in the presence of Dada Bhagwan’ and saying it
directly i.e. ‘I bow down to Lord Simandhar Swami’?
The fruit is better after doing darshan here of Dada Bhagwan.
I used to say, ‘I bow down to Lord Simandhar Swami’ even before I met Dada
and I say the same after meeting Dada. What is the difference between the two?
There a tremendous difference.
Please explain in detail.
Say you have never seen the king but you salute him everyday.
The king’s minister is always with the king, is he not?
So would it not make a difference if you pay your salutations in the
presence of the minister? Will he not notify the king that you pay homage to him
But Lord Simandhar Swami is currently living and moving about, so if we go to
any derasar and do namaskar
to Him, is that not a direct line to Him?
No. Who will make the connection?
Can it not happen through the soul-Atma
within; the supreme soul - parmatma?
nothing will happen. It will when you become Self realised. How can it happen
when you yourself have not become the Self? It will reach Him if you become the
Self. The one in whom all dehadhyas ‘I am this body’ goes away, His namaskar will reach the Lord.
So then, we have to do namaskaar obeisance by saying ‘in the direct presence of Dada
It has to be done through Dada Bhagwan-the Self otherwise there is no meaning to
it, it does not reach Him.
is beyond the intellect
Dada must be worshipping Lord Simandhar Swami.
The connection Dada has with the Lord, what kind of connection is it? How
does Dada do the bhakti (worship)?
There is no method to it.
What kind of darshan is that?
Darshan is something that is beyond
the intellect - buddhi. So what is
there to talk about? There is no point in talking about it, is there?
But what is it? We can at least
understand a bit….
No, it is beyond the intellect, so you will not be able to understand it. It is
pointless talking about it! If you do it the way I have shown you,
do it through Dada Bhagwan, then it will work.
No. if there is some clarification, then it will help.
There cannot be any more explanation to it. When it is beyond the intellect, any
clarification or explanation is of no use. There is no meaning in deciphering
that which is adrashya cannot be
‘seen’ and is agneya cannot be
difference between Dada and Simandhar Swami
When you reach three hundred and fifty nine degrees (of spiritual development),
when the ego has been completely eradicated, it is completely gone; then what is
the difference between You and Simandhar Swami?
There is a great difference. One degree can do a lot. There are so many atishayas
– extraordinary energy attributes, in the speech of the Tirthankara.
I do not have such atishayas. All the atishayas
are in His speech.
So the difference is like the one between moon of 14th day
moon and the full moon (chaudas vs. punam)?
Is there that much of a difference? Is that so?
Great difference. ‘We’ may look like the full moon but there is a great
difference! What do I have! Whereas the Lord has everything! What do I have? Yet
I am content, just like a full moon. My energies work so much for ‘me’ that
I feel like I am at a full moon stage.
only significant intent
my stamp of Gnan Vidhi, all there is left for you, is to see the Tirthankara!
And when you see Him, there is liberation for you. Liberation is when you do darshan of the Vitarag Lord - the one who is in the final state
absolutely enlightened and yet enlightening millions. Everything else has been
prepared here by the Gnani Purush. Lord Simandhar Swami is there to put the
icing on the cake. Who bakes the
cake and who puts the icing on it?
at 356 degrees, Dada Bhagwan at 360 degrees
Questioner: Is it a fact that when I say, “In the direct presence Dada Bhagwan as my witness, I offer my infinite obeisance to the current living Tirthankara Shri Simandhar Swami, who at present is moving about at Mahavideh Kshetra,” He is able to receive and see that I am sending this obeisance?
Dadashri: He sees in a general and total perspective, not specifically. These Tirthankaras do not see specifics. It reaches Him because it is said through the medium of ‘Dada Bhagwan’. It is not possible without a medium.
Now how much difference is there between
Dadashri and the Tirthankara Lord? There
is a difference of only four degrees; not more than that. And I do not even
say that, ‘I am Dada Bhagwan’ I am Patel.
I am not talking about you, I am talking about Dada Bhagwan.
Yes, that is true. Dada Bhagwan is different and I call myself ‘A. M.
Patel.’ When can I say, ‘I am Bhagwan’? It is when I attain the three
hundred and sixty degrees.
Four degrees. What is the significance of the four degrees?
What do the four degrees signify?
I am at 356 degrees. First, it is due to this era of the current time cycle. I
still have these clothes. These clothes, these garbs and all the outer
appearances are there. In this current era of the time cycle, it is not possible
to progress beyond the tenth gunsthanak with reference to vyavahar
the relative world, but in nischaya
the real state–I am at the twelveth
Tenth or the twelfth, is it at the state of upsham
(a state where kashaya are latent) or
at the state of ksahyik (complete
annihilation of kashaya)?
It is only in the ksahyik state. There is not an iota of the upsham; there is no such thing here.
Bhagwan’ and Dadashri are separate
mentioned in the books, the person you see in front of you is ‘A. M. Patel’.
I am a Gnani Purush and the One who is manifest within me is ‘Dada Bhagwan’.
He is the Lord of the fourteen worlds. No one has ever heard of such a
man told me, “Sitting near you has brough immediate and total peace shanti.” I replied, “I am sitting with the Lord of the fourteen
worlds, and you are sitting next to me. Here leave aside shanti peace, but in fact anand
‘we’ will never say, “ I am Bhagwan (God).” That is madness. The people
of the world may say so, but ‘we’ would not say that. “We’ would say it
exactly as it is.
continue to assert that’we’ are simply a nimit
evidence in this. ‘We’ have no desire at all for anything. ‘We’ have
infinite bliss prevailing within. For
the one who is not experiencing this bliss, there is this pleasure of
compliments from others. What is the use of such transient pleasures, for the
one who is absolutely free from any expectation?
Dada Bhagwan is separate. I am separate. I do namaskaar
obeisance to Dada Bhagwan, because I
have to complete 360 degrees.
people would not understand this subtle distinction, which is why I have to say
that, ‘Dada Bhagwan’ is manifest within me. Ask Him for whatever you want
and get your work done. Very rarely does the Lord of the fourteen worlds
manifest. I am seeing this myself and that is why I am telling you to get your
Worship of the celestial Gods and Goddesses on this path of liberation
The path to moksha is a path of
liberation, there cannot be any expectations there, so what is the point of
pleasing the devas celestial gods and
the devis celestial goddesses?
The reason you have to please these shasan
devas-devis* (Sashan deva-devis -
celestial Gods and Goddesses who protect the
path to the fully enlightened Lords), who give protection is because
human beings of today are purvaviradhak (acted
and opposition in the past life). Purvaviradhak
means in the past they have instigated other people against the path of
Liberation. As a result of this they are still here in this world. They have
been wandering around aimlessly till now. We have to worship the devas
and the devis so that we can nullify any claims they may have against us;
and that they do not throw any obstacles on our path to moksha and help us on that path. If you have a quarrel with people
of this town and you maintain an inner intent of respect towards them aradhana,
then that conflict will go away and your work will turn out to be even better. I
respect the whole world, not just devas
and devis. You attain good out of every human being through respect.
protecting devas-devis constantly help whenever difficulties arise in the path
of religion. This Akram path is instrumental, in what they do. I have become a nimit
– instrumental - in this path. Don’t we need a groom to head the wedding
procession? And this path to moksha is
such that you cannot go directly from here. One or two lifetimes still remain on
this path. There is no direct moksha
from here in this era of the current time cycle.
there is no form of opposition (virodha)
on ‘our’ part. People who oppose become trapped one way or other. We would
never become trapped, would we? The whole world being on the kramic
path, will not pay due respect to anyone below (inferior) them, they only
pay respect to those who are above (superior) them. Whereas, in the Akram path,
one bows to all. There is not
single living being (jiva) a person in
our Akram will not do darshan of. What
does the kramic path say? It says that
you cannot bow to those beings in hell, beings in the animal life form, to bhuvanvasi
and vyantar devas –celestial
beings in certain locations. They regard all these beings in their relative
form; they look upon them through a relative perspective only.
And we say that we bow down to Tirthankaras, bhuvanvasi,
vyantar devas, everyone. We see them through the real vision drashti.
Through the real vision?
Yes, real vision. ‘We’ do not have any problems with any living being. And
that is why this Gnan that has manifested. The reason this Gnan has manifested
completely is because of ‘our’ bhaav of not wanting to hurt any living being, even in the slightest
degree. Whereas, what do people in
the kramic path do? They look in the
upward direction. ‘This is worth worshipping and this is not’. They have
attraction towards those worthy of worship and aversion towards those unworthy
of worship. They say that you have become a mithyatvi – taken the wrong path because you bow down to a
celestial Goddess. You fool! Why do you interfere in all that? Do not say
anything if you do not understand. All these celestial beings, the Devas, devis, bhoota, vyantar
beings, are for real. It is not a fabrication. They are all appropriate in their
right places. Why are you instigating them negatively, when they do not bother
you at all? Why are you so egotistic? Everyone is acceptable to us. No one will
say ‘no’ to us.
of Simandhar Swami
What is the meaning and purpose of doing arati in
Dadashri: These mahatmas of Dada do the arati* (arati - ritual of devotional singing waving lamps or incense sticks in front of the idol being worshipped) of Simandhar Swami who is currently present in this universe, through the medium of Dada Bhagwan. I also do His aarti. I send this arati to Him, our Lord who has been living for the last one hundred and seventy five thousand years.
During His arati all the Devas
(celestial Gods) are present. The arati
of the Gnani Purush reaches all the way to Simandhar Swami. The celestial Gods
and Goddesses say that they will grace their presence wherever there is a
gathering of Self-realized beings. In whichever temple, whenever you sing our arati,
the Lord will have to be present there.
Why do we do Namaskar Vidhi ?
In our Namaskar Vidhi, when we say we
bow down to the devas-devis, all the
beings in animal life, and beings in hell etc., the pure Soul (shuddhatma)
is not the one bowing; the relative self that is saying the namaskar
is bowing down. We, the pure Soul, simply are the ‘knower’ of the one doing
the Namaskar Vidhi . Now when a person
does namaskar to the devas-devis, the animal life forms, the hell location forms etc.,
they in turn will say, ‘we are forgiving you – we are letting you go even
though you were denying or doubting our existence. But we do exist, do we
not?’ And we in turn say, ‘Yes,
you are, we were not aware of that you do exist and that is why we were saying
that you did not. It was due to our association with saints and the ascetics
that we used to believe that by doing your darshan,
we will become mithyatvi (one living
with the wrong beleif). But when were we ever samkiti (enlightened; one with right vision) in the first place that
we would become mithyatvi?’
So recite this Namaskar Vidhi.
All those addressed in the Namaskar Vidhi
are not on this planet, but they are definitely present on other planets and
these are the names of those who have attained the Absolute. I have seen them.
Therefore through Dada Bhagwan, when you say, ‘In presence of Dada Bhagwan’
all your darshan reaches them. So say
This path of Akram Vignan is ‘cash’ – it gives instant results!
That is because this is the path of the science of Akram. Kramic path means you have to climb steps, one by one as you
progress, whereas Akram means a lift! Which is better; a lift or the stairs?
If the lift takes one straight up to the goal then the lift is better.
You still have to climb the final two steps in this. The last two steps still
remain, and that too for only one life time.
You cannot go to moksha
directly from here in this life. Therefore, the lift leaves you short of one or
two more life times. It takes you up to where Lord Simandhar Swami is, in Mahavideh
It would be wonderful when every home in Hindustan has a photograph of
Simandhar Swami. Then everything will be accomplished, because He is present and
living. It is not important to have my picture, but there should at least be a
picture of Simandhar Swami. A person
of any faith, who does His darshan ,
even if he is unfamiliar with the Lord will benefit.
presence of chit is critical
You have instructed us to do namaskar
of Simandhar Swami, forty times in the morning. At that time it is morning here
but there it may be evening. So what about
the time difference there?
You do not have to worry about all that. The reason for me telling you to do it
in the morning is so that you do it before you start your other daily routine,
before you go off to work. If you don’t have to go to work, then you can do it
at ten, o’clock or do it at noon! Whenever you do it, do it with the presence
of the chit.
darshan reaches immediately
The time between 4:30 to 6:30 in the morning is the most auspicious time
for prayers (brahma-muhurta). When you
remember or invoke a Tirthankara, the Gnani Purush, or the Gods and Goddess who
protect the path of liberation, during this time, your prayers will be among the
first to be accepted. This is because later on it gets very crowded! It starts
to get crowded from 7 o’clock onwards. Then at 12 noon it is extremely
crowded. So the first person that goes there would be able to do his darshan
right away. As soon as he says, “With Dada Bhagwan as my witness, I
offer my obeisance to Lord Simandhar” it will reach Simandhar Swami because
there is no crowd at the time. So the time between 4:30 am and 6:30 am is the
most auspicious. Those who are young should not miss this opportunity.
and Simandhar Swami are very close
How many times do I have to bow down to Dada Bhagwan in order to make a daily
connection with You?
Counting will take away too much of your time. If I say a hundred times, then
you will keep counting.
Then Dadaji, we have to count forty times for Lord Simandhar Swami.
Count for Him. Dada should remain constantly with You as the Self.
That is true, He resides constantly within.
For Lord Simandhar, if you want to count forty times, then do so.
When we recite Namaskar Vidhi to the
Panch Parameshti Bhagwans, the Om
Parameshti Bhagwans, the Tirthankara Lords and the shashan
reigning Devas and Devis, what
should be in front of our inner vision?
Dada’s murti facial features should
be in front of your eyes.
All the raag (attachment) we all are
building up towards Dada, will it discharge in our next life?
All the raag for me reaches Lord
Simandhar Swami for sure.
Jai Sat Chit Anand (Response from a very appreciative and happy audience)!
But Dada too is going to be like Lord Simandhar Swami, is he not?
Why would I want to be like that when He is there? What is the point in that?
Dada, you are as good as having become like Him, no?
My intent is that all these people attain salvation; that is all.
Emergence of Trimandir for the salvation of the world
becomes impartial when his partiality and opinions depart
It is in today’s newspaper that you are panning the construction of a combined
temple of Lord Simandhar Swami, Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva. I do not understand
that, will you please explain that?
It is to get rid of people’s matartha
(entrenched in opinons, here with reference to religion and sects). Three
temples are being built as one. One of Lord Simandhar Swami who is currently
living, one of Lord Krishna who is also living and the third of ‘Shiva’
meaning Kalyan Swaroop Gnani – the
Gnani that brings salvation; He too is living. So these three temples are being
built, not all together under one dome and flag; all three are separate. But
people will come here to do darshan.
In doing this their prejudices will go away. I will do such a pratishtha
- instillation of life in idols - that each murti (idol) will speak and talk to
you! Only the one who is void of ego or whose ego has subsided significanly can
do such a pratishtha.
There should be no matartha
(entrenched in opinons, here with reference to religion and sects) in religion
in Hindustan. The one who worships Lord Krishna should also worship Lord
Simandhar Swami and Lord Shiva. The location of the temple will be the same, but
the three temples will be separate. That is how it is being built. This current
impartial religion is to get rid of all matartha (entrenched in opinons, here with reference to religion
and sects) in this world. The
entire avsarpini kaad (the downward
half the time cycle) has gone. Everyone has walked with matartha until now. Religion (dharma)
is going to be there only as long as the reign of Lord Mahavir lasts. Thereafter
there will be no sign of dharma. No temples or books will remain. Therefore if
people became aware for the next eighteen thousand years and come out of their
biases and prejudices, then they will flow towards the impartial religion as
mentioned by Lord Rushabhadev.
Everyone can keep their temples separate if they wish but they should
recite the same mantra . There should
not be any animosity towards each other. When you recite the 3 mantras
of the three Lords together, everything becomes fruitful. If there is no
separation with anyone in your mind, then nothing is separate from you.
Therefore, if these three temples come together, all bias and prejudice in
religion will disappear and there will be peace in Hindustan.
If you put a potato in the oven, how many sides will it roast from? It
will roast from all the sides. Similarly, people are being roasted from all the
sides. Just look at what is going
on in Mumbai and Ahmedabad! Here in Vadodara, the ‘roasting’ is to a lesser
degree because the power of moha (illusionary
attraction and attachment) is less! But look at the power over there! Despite
having millions of rupees, people are in agony like fish out of water. For this
problem, this Trimandir is the solution. Do you see anything wrong in this? You
will also give your support to this will you not?
Yes. Now Lord Krishna and Lord Shiva have been placed along side Lord Simandhar
Swami. Lord Simandhar Swami is
considered a vitarag!
Yes, He is indeed a vitarag and the others are shalaka
purush (the best among all human
beings, toalling 63 in every half of the time cycle). Lord Krishna is a Vasudeva
Narayan (God). He had become God (narayan)
from a man (nar). He is one of the
sixty three salaka purushs and he is
going to be a Tirthankara in the next chovisi
(there are 24 Tirthankara in each half of the time cycle on this planet). The
Tirthankaras have accepted Lord Krishna as a future Tirthankara. They also
accept Shiva as a Gnani. Whoever becomes a Gnani is considered Shiva; so all
these have been accepted. All differences, in devotees’mind will go away here
in the Trimandir.
You will see their grandeur when you see the three idols in the temples.
is ‘my’ desire
I want to reduce the level of matabheda
separation due to differences of opinion, in this world. Especially in
religious matters. A person can only understand what I say when his matabheda
leaves. There is so much prejudice due to separation related to differences in
opinions today that people have segregated their temples according to their
religion and also have divided the mantras.
The temples may be kept separate. This is in accordance
with their beliefs. Do not
place Lord Krishna on the temple
(inner sanctum of worship area) of Lord Shiva.The mind needs to become still and
therefore I have combined the mantras
and put them together. I will perform such a
pratishtha that these matabheda
will slowly be forgotten. This is my desire; I do not have any other desire!
There are so many temples of so many Gods in Hindustan and many new ones are
being built, so…
But, how can we say no to those that have already been built? How can we say no
to what has already hapeened?
And the temples ‘we’ are going to construct, have become mandatory,
we have to build them. This is the mission Lord Simandhar Swami. The temple we
build should be of those who are still living. Lord Simandhar Swami is a
Tirthankara. This temple is being built for people’s salvation; to get rid of
their matabheda separation due to
differences of opinion.
I am not talking about this temple of Lord Simandhar Swami that is being built.
I am talking about the temples built by other people.
That is fine. We cannot meddle in the building of other temples, can we? We
cannot encourage or object to what others do. But we cannot create any
obstruction in what they are doing, can we? However what you are saying is true.
There are so many temples, now one needs to darshan
If people consider this as religion, will they not miss out on the real religion
(the religion of the Self)?
The fact is that it is better than having people get on the wrong path. If you
tell them that what they are doing is wrong, then they are likely to get on the
wrong path. If you make him leave that religion, he will take off in the wrong
path. It will not take long for him to do so. There is no merit in making them
leave what they are currently doing. You just take care of your own self. It is
not for you to worry about others. This world is a one big hurricane!
If there were no derasars or temples, then just as Dada manifested for us all,
the same would happen for others too, someone would manifest for them too,
That is true. It is kind of a vikalp (projection, supposition), that if this had not hapened,
there would have been some other solutions.One would have found something else.
This solution for total
worldly good, through these temples is a very good one. Temple is the greatest science of Hindustan. It is best form
indirect worship paroksha bhakti, but only if one understands its subtle meaning.
You can invite the Lord to reside only when you have a temple
Otherwise where will the Lord take residence? A ‘floating’ or
‘temporary’ place is of no use; only when you have a fixed place can you
invite the Lord.
Why has an idol been placed? What is the intent bhavna behind it. It is, ‘Lord You are the abode of eternal bliss
and I have temporary happiness. I want eternal bliss.’ The Lord is eternally
blissful. Behold! Just look at him, he looks more beautiful than any one of us
despite being made out of marble. You feel as if you do not want to leave Him,
or look away from Him.
What does the idol of the Lord say when you offer anything or prayers
it? It says, ‘All this is not mine, it belongs to Your Self only. So the idol
returns all your prayers and offering to your own pure Soul. This is called
indirect worship (paroksha bhakti).
one with the right vision is free to enter any house of worship
What should someone like me who has taken Gnan, do when he goes to temples?
Now you should tell ‘Chandulal” (reader should substitute his or her name
for Chandulal) to worship if a desire
arises within, and to not worry if it does not. But you should not have a
dislike towards it. It is a relative interaction. There is no problem with the
relative. In the relative, you can worship even when you go to a mosque.
Impartiality in the relative vyavahar
and in the Self only in the
real nischaya is
all that there is. There is only one worship for the Self.
The purpose of these temples is to acquaint people with Shri Simandhar
Swami. When the image of Lord Simandhar is worship every home, when His aratis
are performed all ove, when His telple is constructed all over
the world, then there will be a alltogether different state of peace in the
There is still more work that will be accomplished. There is going to be
a lot work done through ‘me’!
People can only be blessed if we build temples with His living idol. You
need a medium to reach people, which is why this inner message received by me
from Him is of critical importance. This will bring results. Even those who have
not taken Gnan will benefit by doing darshan
of Simandhar Swami. That is why we have to build all this; otherwise I would not
get involved in it and nor would I involve anyone of you. I am telling you this
because He is the living Tirthankara. There is no point in talking about the
Tirthankaras of the past. We have enough of other temples. They too are needed
because people worship the idols there, and it is worship of none other than the
Tirthankaras of the past. We are not negating their importance.
This temple of Lord Simandhar Swami that is being built, is vyvahaar
worldly interaction. This is to protect the future generation. And for you, even
my picture is helpful is it not?
It is a great help.
That is because Dada himself is here. That is how Lord Simandhar Swami himself
is there and He will be helpful as long as He is present. Whatever we ‘do’
is simply happening. Changes can come about in Hindustan if we worship Lord
Simandhar Swami, otherwise how can changes happen?
Dada, if we look at Hindustan now, we see the effects of scorching Kaliyug
Let it be scorching. As long as Lord Simandhar Swami is happy, where all the devas
(celestial beings) are happy, what is likely to happen?
Not a temple but a place of salvation
This temple came to be built because all the signals from the subtle associations with higher beings (sangyna) for the temples were there. This is ‘our’ sangnya for the salvation of the world.
It will be good if Simandhar Swami’s temple is built; it will be of
tremendous benefit for people. The one who does more darshan of Lord Simandhar Swami, will receive more blessings,
because Simandhar Swami is a living Tirthankara. He is very helpful to us.
There is also another temple of Lord Simandhar Swami somewhere else, is there
not? Then what is the point of building another one?
Other temples of Lord Simandhar Swami that are out there, are not accepted by
all. Vitarags should be accepted by
everyone. There should be no partiality. Therefore, this temple of Lord
Simandhar Swami that is being built, will have idols of the other four
Tirthankaras also; there will be idols of the first and the second Tirthankara
of the past chovisi Lord Rushabhdev
and Lord Ajitnatha respectively, and the twenty-third and the twenty-fourth
Tirthankara, Lord Parshvanath and Lord Mahavir respectively. And there will be a
twelve feet idol of Lord Simandhar Swami, just like the one in Mehsana; along
with it there will be a temple of Lord Krishna Vasudeva and on the other side a
Shiv linga. Therefore, a collection of all the religions has been established
here; this temple will become the greatest place of pilgrimage, which therefore
will bring about salvation of the people.
is a temple of the the formless One
Here, His idol is not an idol; he is present; Lord Simandhar Swami is
present himself. His idol signifies that His representative is here. Just as
Dada is here, people worship His idol-bodily form. Therefore the idol Simandhar
Swami is considered His representative.
For how long is a person to do darshan
of the murti - idol or one with a
form? One has to do darshan of the
murti until one attains the amurta –
the one that is formless – the Self. Until
one attains the amurta the formless,
he has to take the support of the murta form. Thereafter, does one have to let go of the idol? The
Lord has said no. Do not let go of the idol otherwise others will also do the
same. Therefore it is a worldly duty vyavahar;
even I go there. Even I have to go there two to three times a year so that
people in the streets would realize that Dada goes there. Worldly
duty-interactive vyavahar should be carried out.
Right now everyone is deeply engrossed in worldly life and for those in the
society who are devotion, this idol is indirect and distant, so will they
continue to worship it?
No, this idol is not indirect paroksha.
But will it not become indirect for the people in the future?
Not only for them, first of all it is for us. What is it for us? Lord Simandhar
Swami is present for us today. He is present for us for another hundred twenty
five thousand years. A governor is useful to us only as long as he is holding
the position as a governor, is He not?
If a governor would not do your work, you will get your work done even if you
sit and do his pratikraman in front of his picture sitting at home. It will do
if you continue to do pratikraman in front of his picture. Now if you have seen
and known the governor, you do not need his picture. Here however, you do need
the picture, and it is for the future generation and for the salvation of the
world. Separation due to
differences of opinions matabheda will go away and it will give people the result.
Lord Simandhar Swami seats in glory in Mahavideha Kshetra. It is His
idol murti that will be placed here;
it has to be an idol of the living! How much fruit it can give? Simandhar
Swami’s temple is not a temple of the murta
(idol); it is a temple of the amurta
– the living formless One.
His picture or an idol will do all the work. Therefore our mahatmas have to
continue doing darshan there. Sit as
long as you can, just as you would gain if you were to sit next to the Lord.
too sit there, even though I am in moksha.
Otherwise why else would I need Him? It is because He is still above me. When we
do His darshan, whose darshan are we doing? It is the darshan
of the One who is the embodiment of moksha.
The Liberted One is present with the body. Moksha is attained only through His darshan.
the current Ttirthankara is beneficial
Dada, this temple and all that is being built, does the bhaav
– the inner intent- is for the
attainment of the Soul, is it not? In reality, that is the only thing we have to
look for, is it not?
Dadashri: We have to attain final moksha from there. For moksha, first you will need enough merit karma to enable you to go to Mahavideh Kshetra.You have to overcome the losses you have incurred from infinite past lives in just one lifetime. To accomplish this it is necessary for you to follow me relentlessly, but you do not have the capacity to do so. Therefore I am making this connection for you with Him, because ultimately we all have to go there and do His darshan. Direct moksha is not possible from here. You still have one more life time. This Lord will be instrumental in the salvation of the entire world.
Everything that you do here for Simandhar Swami will be taken into
account. You should go ahead and do any charitable work or give contributions
that you have decided to do for Lord Simandhar. That is more than enough. Beyond
that you need not do anything more. The deep inner intent is the key. What you
do for Simandhar Swami will bind the highest merit karma. This is because it is
meant for liberation of all mankind. As far as charitable work is concerned, if
you build hospitals for the poor or any other such deeds, it will earn you merit
karma but it will keep you in the worldly life.
the flow of donations for the mission of Simandhar Swami
Giving money for the temple is as good as Gnan,
because it is for Simandhar Swami. It is even higher than donating for the Gnan
books. Anything done for Lord Simandhar Swami is a different matter all
together. No value can be placed on it. Idols of the twenty four Tirthankaras
are of the Tirthankaras who are already gone, and this idol is of Simandhar
Swami who is present. Tradition was such that we did not make idols or temples
of a Tirthankara who was alive. In
India, a temple of Lord Paraswanath was built even when he was alive.
Therefore, does He help as long as He is in his body and moves around?
Yes but for how long will He be in his body?
As long as His life span of one hundred and twenty five thousand years.
People will benefit as long as He lives and ‘we’ too will do such a
pratishtha so that many people will attain salvation.
What do you mean by benefit? Will they attain awareness jagruti?
They will get on the path of religion. The real religion which liberates; they
will find the path to moksha.
Awareness and everything else will increase. You
will keep receiving the highest reward but my inner intent is that Hindustan
does not remain in the current predicament. People here should not remain in
this current state.
of Simandhar Swami
We pray to Lord Simandhar Swami everyday to have Him send one Deva
(celestial being) who will take us there.
That prayer will materialize. That is why I have been sent here.
Jai Sat Chit Anand!
And I am going to give siddhis - special spiritual powers
to some. You will need someone after me, will you not? People will need
guidance after I am gone, will they not?
to worship and not be worshipped
People in Hindustan have told me that they want to keep my idol in the
temple. I told them, ‘No, you should not do that. If I allow that, then it
will send the wrong message to all who follow. They will then have their own
idols placed there!
Therefore, I put an end to this right from here, then there will be no
problems later, will there? There
will be no such intense desire for that later. How can anyone else have his idol
The main goal then gets bypassed.
Therefore, there is no need to put my idol in it. I am in the live form indeed, whenever
you ‘see’ me. All these idols are of the ones who have been in the past.
There are two kinds of people whose idols have been placed. Of the saints, and
the original purush whose idols people
What will happen after mine
has been placed? Then it will start a tradition. Then the one after me will put
mine in it. Therefore, I told them that if they want to put my idol, make that
idol such that it is praying kneeling down in front of Lord Simandhar Swami.
If it is necessary to place the idol, then is it acceptable to have one
made like that which are describing?
Then there is no problem. That is why people feel that Dada has no desire
to be worshipped. He want to worship Simandhar Swami only and the idol
I have been worshipped a
lot. I have become content in countless past lives from being worshipped! I have
no desire; no beggary is left within. The need to be worshipped is beggary of
pride. Only when all forms of beggary are banished, can the real solution be
Jai Sat Chit Anand
Awareness of The Eternal is Bliss
Prayer To The Current Tirthankara Shri Simandhar Swami
detached Lord of this universe! You are free from all attachments and passions.
You are the embodiment of pure eternal awareness. You are the natural eternal
bliss. You are infinite knowledge, infinite vision, and illuminator of the past,
present and the future world. With the live presence of ‘Dada Bhagwan’ as my
witness I hereby offer my obeisance filled with infinite devotion and accept
your most exclusive protection. Dear Lord, by granting me a place at your divine
feet, grace me by ending the horrendous wanderings of infinite lives. Please
grace me, grace me, grace me!
universally revered fully enlightened Lord! Your real Self is my real Self. But
because of ignorance I do not understand this full Self that I am. So let me see
this real Self of mine continuously, as I behold you. Grant me this energy,
grant me this energy, grant me this energy !
liberator of liberators, the Lord of all celestial lords! Since the beginning of
worldly interactions until this moment, infinite faults have been committed
towards the mind, speech and body of living beings, knowingly or unknowingly.
Grant me the energy to see each one of these faults and to do pratikraman. For
all these faults I ask for your forgiveness. I am recalling them, repenting for
all of them, and avowing that I will never do them again. Grant me the awareness
to see these faults. For this grant me energy.
Grant me energy. Grant me energy !
pure world of pilgrimage is established with each footstep of thine
O Tirthankara Shri Simandhar Swami ! Let there be no intent of any kind
towards all the living beings of this world and let there be total acceptance
and devotion towards all the Self-realized beings of this world in my heart. My
obeisance to all Gnanis of the past, present and future.
Lord ! Please shower me with such grace that I encounter here in this world,
a Gnani Purush
representative of yours, or a Self-
realized being, and after satsang with him, become deserving of
his grace, whereby I become worthy of reaching thy supreme divine feet.
celestial Gods and Godesses who are the protectors of the reign of Lord
Simandhar! O Panchanguli Yakshini Devi ! O Chandrayan Yaksha Dev ! O Padmavati
Devi ! Please grant us the exclusive protection that ensures that no obstacles
shall arise in our path towards the feet of Lord Simandhar. Grant us the
absolute energy to remain as the Self.
‘Simandhar Swami Na Aseem Jai Jai Kar Ho’
Eternal Glory to Lord Simandhar
of the Lord
Jai Simandhar Swami…. Prabhu
Mahavideh kshetre vicharataa
(2)….Bharat roonanu bandh… Jai
Dada Bhagwan saakshiye….
pahonchaadu namaskaar… Swami pahonchadoon namaskaar…
With Dada Bhagwan as my
witness…. I am sending my salutations… Swami …I
am sending my salutations….
Pratyaksha fada paamu hun (2),
maadhyam Gnan avataar… Jai Simandhar Swami…
I receive the direct benefit
(2)…..through the medium of Dadashri, the embodiment of Gnan…Jai
Paheli arati Swami ni, Om
parameshti paamey… Swami Om Parameshti
The first arati of the Swami…. lets one attain the
state of the Om Parameshti (the ones who have gained the entry on the path to
vrutti vahey (2), kaaran moksha sevey… Jai Simandhar Swami
Where there is no worldly interest
(2)…and their intent is moksha…Jai
Biji arati Swami ni ,Panch
parameshti paamey… Swami Pancha Parameshti paamey
The second arati of the
Swami….lets one attain the state of the Pancha Parameshti ( the enlightened
sadhu, teacher, principle, arihant and siddha)…Swami Pancha Parameshti ...
Paramhans pada paami (2),
gnan-agnan lańey… Jai Simandhar Swami…
have attained the enlightened State (2) ….which separates Knowledge and
Ignorance…Jai Simandhar Swami
Triji arati Swami ni, ganadhar
pada paamey… Swami ganadhar pada paamey
The third arati of the
Swami….lets one attain the state of the leaders of the Vitarag Path of the
Nirashrit bandhan chhoote (2),
aashrit gnaani thaye… Jai Simandhar
The bondage of having no one to
take care me of is broken (2)….now the Gnani has become my sole support….Jai
arati Swami ni, tirthankar bhaavi… Swami tirthankara bhaavi
Dadashri holds the powers from the
Swami (2)…and the whole world benefits
from the knowledge of ultimate
Panchami arati Swami ni, kevada
moksha lahe… Swami kevada moksha lahe...
The fifth arati of the Swami, makes one attain the
final liberation...only the final liberation...
Param jyoti bhagavant hoon (2),
ayogi Siddhapadey… Jai Simandhar Swami
I am the absolute divine Light
(2), on the path to the bodiless Siddha State.
Ek samaya Swami khode jey,
maathhu dhhadi namashe.. Swami maathoo dhhadi...
Whoever bows to the Lord, even for
a fraction of a second….Swami
bows to you...
Ananya sharanu swikaari ...(2)
mukti padney varey...Jai Simandhar Swami
Accepting exclusive protection (2), attains final liberation…Jai Simandhar Swami
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The above book is a translation of the Gujarati Book called 'Vartaman Tirthankara Shri Simandhar Swami , edited by Dr. Niruben Amin.