dada satsang
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hrim dada bhagwan sarvagna sharanam
gacchhaami
SWA and
ASWA
The Self and the
non-Self
The Gnani Purush identifies all except the Self--the Soul, as the non-Self. These thoughts, speech and body are the non-Self.
Question
:
All the
Gnanis say that you have to look within. What are we supposed to see within
?
Dadashri:
Yes, this is from a relative perspective. Those who have gained
the inner knowledge have to see within and those who have knowledge of the
external world have to see outside the body. If a person has knowledge of the
external world only, what will he see when he attempts to look
within?
Questioner:
He will see only the
external.
Dadashri:
Only the one who has awakened to the internal world, who has
known the real and the relative
will be able to see within. The one
who is ignorant and oblivious of the inner world will not be able to see
anything. On the contrary when he looks within in meditation he will get
involved in the thoughts that arise. The one who is awakened and has known the
inner world to be as it is will not get carried away by thoughts as he will
see them as they are. But alas, it is not easy to attain this state of inner
separation. Only a Gnani Purush can help you attain this. The ego is an
impediment and does not allow you to remain aloof from your inner
world.
The one who is habituated and constantly involved in external worldly view has nothing to gain by looking within prior to Self realization. He may do good and meritorious deeds in this externalized world view but that will not lead to freedom and moksh. This is called shoobh upayog.
Shuddha upayog gets
established after receiving Gnan from Gnani Purush. What kind of
gnan?
Atmagnan...The knowledge of The Self.
The answer to Who am I gets
established with experience of awakening.
Shuddha upayog is the way of
moksh...total freedom.
What you are eluding to is shoobh upayog, which is a way of
progressing from bad deeds towards
good deeds.
Questioner:
Why is it that in your presence we
experience harmony and peace in all situations and remain swasthha and when
you are away from us we experience disharmony and become
aswasthha
in
our worldly situations ?
Dadashri:
Harmony is a natural consequence of my presence. Disharmony and
loss of inner peace is the result of buddhi...intellect in action and as long
as this intellect is functioning residual ego exists.
The intellect that is associated with
ego is the culprit and cause of your disharmony. Once it ends there is no
cause left for any internal disturbance and loss of peace.
Questioner:
This (...the cessation of ego
associated intellect) is not likely to happen living in this material
world.
Dadashri:
Quite so! It is not possible. Even then whatever you gain in my
presence is yours. The alternative method of dealing with equanimity in all
situations where intellect and ego come into play will result in a gradual
dissolution of these causes of disharmony, and then you will attain permanent
inner peace. Swa...the Self is synonymous with harmony. Transgressing over
into situations...avasthha renders you aswa...non Self...aswasthha...harassed
and hassled and prone to disturbances.
Swa is eternal and permanent.
Straying over into the temporary aswa...non Self results in mood swings and
unhappiness.
Questioner:
One is aware that he is involved in
external non self situations and has thus become aswasthha...hassled and
irritated. One can see and know this situation from the vantage of The Self
and yet is not able to remain swasthha...cool and in harmony. Does this mean
that there is a heavy force and function of
buddhi...intellect?
Dadashri:
No. In this situation the exact judgment is that the Self that
you have gained from Dada, Shuddhatma...is the Observer of all this. If we
remain as The Observer then there is no problem whatsoever. Otherwise if you
start observing the cool and the hassled there will be no end
!
Questioner:
And what may be the key for
this?
Dadashri:
Cool or harassed, the knower of both of these situations is
Shuddhatma...PureSelf. One becomes irritable and harassed because he strays
into the foreign non Self department.
Be cool or harassed, I am concerned
with the Knowledge of the process only. These are all transient states of the
pudgal...complex of thoughts speech and action which fill and rise and drain
and fall.
The
knower of all these states is Shuddhatma...Pure Self.
You will experience these
avasthhas...states because they have been filled ( in the past life) and as
they come now they will drain and fall away!
Stray your hand in the
foreign non Self situations and you will experience burns.
We...( The Gnani and Dada
Bhagwan ) never poke our hand in the non Self, because we know that whatever
fruits ( results of past life causal karma ) we are going to get can not be
avoided and if one strays into foreign territory then the fruits get doubled.
So he loses twice! We suffer only one loss.
We keep knowing that Chandubhai...(
the name given to your worldly body ) is currently upset and hassled, and
after 15 minutes this will change. If you keep knowing...you will not sustain
two losses.
Questioner:
Prolonged state of disturbance and
disharmony implies a greater veil over the Self ?
Dadashri:
Yes. Heavier the veil the longer the agony! But if 'you' keep
knowing as Shuddhatma all veils will fly away in a hurry and your work will be
done. If you interfere and stray into foreign territory suffering will
ensue.
Jai Sat Chit
Anand
The above satsang with The Gnani has been
translated from Aptavani 5
edited by Pujya Niruben
Amin
your links to the world
within
updated July
29, 2000
The two images below are beyond words.
Shuddha
chidroopa avinaashee aavishkaar...nikhila niranjan niroopana
namokaar
Parmodayam parmaanundam Param Purush
pahechaan
Pal pal praanoma Parm Nimit ney
pranaam
Pal pal pranoma Dadashri ne
pranaam
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