AHIMSA
non-violence
The
Gnani Purush shows the world the way to non-violence.
Editorial
In
the ocean of violence there is always violence, but if one wants to practice
total non-violence, it is only possible through the reading and contemplation of
the words spoken by the Gnani Purush Param Pujya Dadashri. There are many people
who practice overt, gross ahimsa, but it is extremely difficult to know it and
understand it at its most subtle levels. It is not easy to know these levels, so
how can one even begin to talk about attaining them?
If one does not understand what
constitutes the entire spectrum of ahimsa starting from the visible to the
subtlest living beings, such as life forms present in air and water, and if one
does not understand intent-violence (violence through inner intent which causes
a new karma) and intent-death (the ultimate of all violence: violence against
the self), then whatever ahimsa one practices will be in vain. One will be stuck
at the level of mere words and gross mechanical actions.
Only
the One who is absolutely non-violent, can show others the true nature of
violence. Such a One is eternally established as the Self. These are the
tirthankaras and the Gnanis.
In this book, you will find information about violence and non-violence, from the gross to the subtle-most levels, as exposed by the Gnani Purush. He is absolutely non-violent in a world filled with violence.This book has been compiled with the intention that people of this time cycle, suffering from violence from every direction, achieve salvation for this life and lives to come.
Who
can escape effect violence (visible acts of violence, intentional or otherwise;
violence perceivable by all the senses)? Even the Tirthankars themselves, at the
time of their ultimate liberation, with their last breath, killed many airborne
life forms. If they were held responsible for such violence, they would be
compelled to take birth again for the karma caused. Would liberation then ever
be possible? So what was it that they attained, which gave them exclusive
protection from the laws of karma and achieves liberation? These very mysteries
are understood and can be explained only by the Gnani Purush himself, because
within him manifests the exact same knowledge that is to be found in the hearts
of all the Tirthankars. Dadashri has revealed this knowledge and has made it
accessible to everyone. This book
will, without doubt, serve as a very useful guide for those who practice ahimsa
and desire liberation.
- Dr. Niruben Amin
Satsang with
Dadashri commences….
PROGRESS
TO PEAK OF RELIGIONS: NON-VIOLENCE
Question: Can you please elaborate on the
subject of Ahimsa (non-violence) in the progress in religion and
spirituality?
Dadashri:
Ahimsa itself is religion and ahimsa is
spiritual progress. The definition
of Ahimsa is: to maintain the awareness to not hurt any living being, even in
the slightest degree, through your mind, speech and actions. When this principle
remains firm in your conviction, and awareness, then progress will occur in
spirituality.
Question: How do you benefit in life with the
mantra ‘Ahimsa Parmodharma’ (Ahimsa, the highest
religion)?
Dadashri: Every morning before leaving home, you
should recite the inner intent, ‘I
do not want to hurt any living being, even in the slightest degree, through your
thoughts, speech and conduct’. Repeat this five times. Having done this, if you
do end up hurting someone anyway, then you must take note of it and repent for
the mistake.
Questioner: How is it possible, in this day and age,
to live a life without hurting any living being?
Dadashri:
All you have do is to have and protect your intent that you do not want to hurt
any living being, and repent for the times you are not able to maintain
it.
Questioner:
Is it really possible to live a life in this world filled with myriads of living
beings without hurting any being? Can we satisfy every living being surrounding
us in every circumstance?
Dadashri:
Whoever desires to do so, can do so. If the goal of ahimsa is not attained in
one lifetime, it will be attained in two or three lifetimes. If your goal and
decision is firm and you maintain ahimsa in your awareness, then absolute ahimsa
is inevitable.
Non-violence
Prevails Over Violence
Questioner: What should one do to stop
violence?
Dadashri:
The intent of non-violence must arise within continuosly. Lord Mahavir has left
behind a very clear distinction between violence and non-violence. He knew that an era of violent times was
approaching and therefore He said, “Face all violence with non-violence.” If
someone uses the weapon of violence, you should use the weapon of non-violence
against him. Only this approach will lead to happiness. Violence only stops with
non-violence.
Understanding
Non-violence
Questioner:
People are frequently violent. How can they be changed to become
non-violent?
Dadashri:
You have to make them understand.
You have to explain them, ‘ The Lord resides in every living being. If
you hurt any living being you will incur the liability for the hurt and violence
caused. This results in an obstruction in spiritual progress as the veils of
ignorance multiply. The consequence of this is further misery and a birth in
lower life formss.’ People will indeed understand this when you explain it to
them in this way. Violence spoils
human intellect.
Questioner: I may feel strongly about practicing
ahimsa. What can I do when an individual does not believe in it at all?
Dadashri:
If you feel strongly about practicing ahimsa, then you should practice it and
calmly explain it to others whether they believe in it or not. They will start to believe in it if you
use this approach. If you make an
effort, then one day you will succeed.
Questioner: What should we do if they are not
receptive to it even after explaining ahimsa calmly and with love? Should we
allow the violence to continue, or should we attempt to stop it
forcefully?
Dadashri:
You should pray to whichever The Lord you believe in and say: “Dear The Lord,
make everyone non-violent.” Pray in this manner.
The Problem Of
Bedbugs
Questioner:
What should we do about the growing infestation of
bedbugs in our homes?
Dadashri:
Many
years ago, we had the same problem in our household. I could not bear it when the bedbug bit
me on the neck; so I would pick it up and put it on my leg, and let it bite me
there. How could we send the poor
insect away hungry when it is hungry and has come to this restaurant of ours? It
is not right to let it go hungry. You will not have such strength of
non-violence. Therefore I ask you to simply catch it and put it outside. At
least you can get some peace of mind knowing that it is not in your bed.
Nature's
law is such that even if you were to throw out a hundred thousand bedbugs, if
tonight only seven of them were to bite you, then seven will not leave without
finishing their task. Even if you were to kill them, seven bedbugs would still
bite you, whether you throw them far away from your home or you do nothing. They
will bite you regardless of what you do.
That is why I do not put up any
resistance. I allow them to bite me when I am awake, or else they would bite me
in my sleep. At least they do not
bring containers to carry away extra food with them. All they do is eat their share and go
home. There is a sense of satisfaction that this body has fed so many other
lives. These days it is hard to feed to feed even two individuals.
Bedbug
Killer, Are You The Creator Of Bedbugs?
Questioner: What steps should we take to deal with
all the bedbugs, mosquitoes and cockroaches in the house?
Dadashri: To prevent them from infesting the home,
you should clean the home and keep it clean. You should catch the roaches, take
them outside and throw them far away, but you should not kill them under any
circumstance.
Once
I was invited to a very prominent man’s home. He made the statement that bedbugs
ought to be killed because they bite and suck blood. I asked him where it was
written, that the bedbugs should be killed. I explained to him that a person has
a right to kill a bedbug only if he is able to create one. The general rule is that you cannot
destroy what you cannot create.
Questioner: So why do the bedbugs come to
bite?
Dadashri: They do so because you have a pending
debt with them. Your body does not
belong to you alone. It is not your property in the first place, you have
‘stolen’ it and so the bedbugs are stealing from you. When they bite you, your accounts are
being settled and your debts are being paid off. So from now on, do not kill
them.
One
Cannot Steal From The Lord’s Garden.
Let
us say there are mangoes growing in your neighbor’s garden, and some hang over
the fence that separates your yard and his. The neighbor’s religious beliefs are
different. He does not believe in ahimsa. He is quick to punish and hit anyone
who picks his fruits. People do not
touch his fruits out of fear. Now if you can refrain from stealing from your
neighbor’s garden, why can you not refrain from killing the bedbug in the garden
of the Lord? Do you understand that you are stealing from The Lord’s
garden?
Suffer
The Penance In Front Of You
Questioner: But what if the bedbug bites
severely?
Dadashri: Blood is the food for the bedbug. Do you expect it to eat rice and ghee?
Will they eat it even if we make it nice and creamy for them? No, because blood is its
food.
Questioner: But is it fair to just let it continue
to bite?
Dadashri: Do you not occasionally fast as a means
of penance? In that penance, do you not tolerate the pangs of hunger? Then why
not accept the bites of the bedbug as a forms of penance? This penance presents
itself directly to you. It is the basis for liberation or moksha. Why must you create your own kind of
penance? Why not endure the penance
that presents naturally? Naturally occurring penance is the cause of liberation,
whereas self-created penance is the cause of worldly life.
Questioner: Yes! That is a very good point. Let the
penance that presents happen. Fasting is tough and requires a lot of
effort.
Dadashri: Yes.
In that you are creating circumstances for penance. Whereas here penance occurs
spontaneously, you do not have to invite it. So feed all the bedbugs that come
to you. Treat them with kindness and then send them off.
Non-Violence:
A Gift From My Mother
My
mother, Zaverba was thirty-six years older than me. One day I asked my mother if
the bedbugs were also biting her and she replied: “Naturally dear, they will
bite. But the poor things eat their
share and are off again. They don’t
bring any containers, they simply eat their share and leave!” Blessed is this
mother. Blessed also is the son.
Once
I came home after fighting with someone at school. My
mother took pity on the other child and told me that I should not have
hurt him. She told me that the poor boy did not
have a mother, so who would take care of his cuts and bruises? She even told me
that I should not hurt anyone and that it was fine if someone were to hurt me
because I had a mother who would take care of me. Now tell me, is such a woman
not worthy of being the mother of a Mahavir?
Questioner: It is the other way round nowadays. Nowadays parents teach their children to
fight back.
Dadashri:
Not just nowadays, it has always been
that way. It has nothing to do with the current times. This is the way of the
world. There is a choice. One can become the disciple of Lord Mahavir, and be
free. The other choice is to become a disciple of worldly gurus, and be bound.
The latter creates further miseries. The Lord is vitarag (One devoid of all
attachments). He is absolutely non-violent. It is better therefore to be a
disciple of Mahavir.
Keep
Everything Clean: Do Not Use Insecticides
Many
people do not kill bedbugs. Instead they put their mattresses out in the sun to
heat. In my household I would tell them not to do even that. Why trouble the
poor bedbugs in the sun? People would still protest, wanting to be rid of them.
It is a misconception to think that the population of the bedbugs decreases by
killing them. They may appear to decrease but the same number will be found the
following day.
We
should simply keep everything clean and tidy. Maintaining cleanliness is the key
to eliminating the problem of bedbugs. It is a crime to use insecticides
and repellants on them. Besides, the chemicals do not destroy them; the insects
just reappear elsewhere. You will not see a single insect at certain times,
while at other times they seem to be abundant. This is because insects are
seasonal. During such times, no matter how much insecticide you spray, they will
keep thriving.
Payoff
Your Debts Fast
Questioner: One bedbug takes only the portion that
is part of the overall account, does it not?
Dadashri: I have always paid off my debts to
them, which is why I encounter just a few now. Even now, if a bedbug were to visit me,
it would instinctively recognize that it is not going to be harmed. They know
me. They also know the nature of other individuals that are likely to hurt and
kill them. They have this ability to know this because they too have a soul
within.
Moreover,
there is no way out for you without paying off your debts. You will have to feed blood for having
taken blood from beings in the past. You will have to repay whomever you have
troubled. All your accounts will have to be paid off. Have you seen a blood bank
where people donate blood? This here is such a ‘bedbug bank’ which acts like a
‘blood bank’, where a record of all your pending accounts are kept.
Drinking
Blood or Settling Accounts?
So
allow the bedbug to bite you and do not let it go hungry. How can the poor, hungry bedbug leave
without being fed at such a noble household as yours?
If you cannot tolerate their bites, just
take them outside, but if you do have the strength, let them feed off you and then let them go. In doing this, they are doing you a big
favor. They liberate you from your sense of attachment to your body. The message
the bedbug comes with is, “Why are you asleep (spiritually asleep)? Get your
work done!” They are like the
watchmen that stand guard to alert you.
The
Law Is Maintained
Questioner: Mosquitoes are a nuisance! What can we
do about them?
Dadashri: Understand that anything in this world that
aggravates you, does so within the prescribed limits of nature’s law. Your
suffering, too, is within this law. If you want to be free of these mosquitoes,
sleep inside a mosquito net, but do not kill them.
Questioner: So should we should preserve their life,
not kill them?
Dadashri: Yes.
Questioner: What if we utter ‘Sri Rama’s name as we
kill them, would it not mean that they would attain a higher life forms in their
next life?
Dadashri: You will go to a lower life forms for
inflicting the suffering on the mosquito.
Questioner: Do mosquitoes bite
saints?
Dadashri: They bite even the Lord. They used to
bite Lord Mahavir a lot. They
simply would not leave without collecting on their debts.
Your
Own Debts
Recognize that when a single mosquito
even touches you, it is exact. It
is meant to be. If you were to be
bitten on your hand, it would not be able to bite you on your leg, even if it
wanted to! How can this world be
wrong when it has been arranged with such precision? This precise arrangement is the ‘regulator of the world' and continuously
keeps this world in ‘regulation’. I
am making this statement based on my own vision.
‘Hitlerism’
Prohibited Everywhere
No
one in this world is in a position to hurt or hinder
you, therefore should anything happen to you, do not blame the world: the
fault is your own. Everything that
you experience in your life is the echo of all the meddling you, yourself did in
your previous life. You will not
have such echoes if you had not meddled.
Not
even a single mosquito can bite you unless there had been some previous
interference on your part. Even if you were lying in a bed full of bedbugs, not
a single bug will touch you, if you have not interfered in your past life. What
is the law behind this? People think thoughts like, ‘kill all these bugs, and
get rid of them’. This is interference. Do they not use spray insecticides? This
is Hitlerism, gassing human beings to death. Yet the bugs say, you wont affect
us much. Our generational propagation will not cease.
Therefore
when your interference ceases, all accounts will be cleared. Without causes of
interference there will be no ‘bites’ of any kind.
When
can one tell if all debt has been paid off? In the midst of a swarm of mosquitoes,
not a single mosquito will bite you. Even the bedbugs will forget their natural
tendency to bite. If a very angry and violent man rushes in here suddenly, his
anger and violence will vanish when he sets his eyes on me. His thinking will
change: this is the power of ahimsa.
It
is vyavasthit (scientific circumstantial evidences) that arranges everything.
The mosquito is not aware that it will bite Chandulal and Chandulal is not aware
that he will be bitten, but vyavasthit unites the two. Vyavasthit determines the
time of the event, when the air pulls the mosquito to its location, and it is
also vyavasthit that pulls it away after the event. It is vyavasthit that frees
them from their account so they both can go their separate ways. The mosquito
can even fly for miles to settle accounts with anyone who has been interfered in
the past.
No
Difference Between The Thorn And The Mosquito
When
a mosquito bites, people blame the mosquito, but when a thorn pricks them, what
do they do? There is no difference between a thorn and a mosquito. In the eyes
of The Lord, they are both the same. The Soul within them does not bite.
Everything that hurts you is merely ‘thorns’. Why is it that you do not see the
fault of a thorn when it pricks you?
Questioner:
It is because one does not see a living instrumental entity.
Dadashri: The
mosquito appears alive and therefore he assumes, ‘this is what bit me.’ He is
under the veil of illusion, not knowing the reality. Therefore, the world
appears real to him. The Self never does anything. It does not bite anybody. The
world is simply an interaction of non-Self elements, and it is there that the
accounts are caused and settled.
The
Self never punishes anyone. The world is constantly hurt by the sharp ‘thorns’.
If
a person is struck by a falling rock, he will look up to see who threw the rock
at him. When he does not see anyone, he remains quiet. However, if he catches
someone throwing even a small pebble at him, he will become very angry and
confrontational. Why does he react differently in each situation? This is
because his perception is false.
According
to Akram Vignan, the thorn that pricks you and the person that hurts you are
both nimits (they become instrumental in the process where vyavasthit brings to
you the results of your own past karma). The fault is really yours. You would
not be hurt if you stepped on a flower, but if you stepped on a thorn, it will
prick you for sure. The same applies to people, so you must be careful when you
interact with anyone. Whether a thorn pricks you or a scorpion stings you, it is
the result of past karmas. Whose past karma? Your own past karma. Others are
merely instrumental in delivering the results of your own past deeds. What fault
is it of the instrument?
Therefore,
walk with caution. This is a very different kind of world altogether. By nature
it is absolutely just and exact. Throughout my life, I have assessed the real
nature of things and events. I have arrived at a wonderful conclusion which when
known to the world will bring lasting peace and harmony.
The
right To Life For All Living Beings
Think
about why a cat preys on mice and other insects, but it will never touch a mole,
even if it is hungry! Why is that?
You
receive food without any effort because of your virtues (results of good deeds
in your past life). A laborer, on the other hand, has to toil for money to buy
food. Therefore, from now on make sure that you do not hurt any living being
whether it is a human, an animal or an insect. On the one hand people pray to
The Lord while on the other, they continue to hurt the very beings within whom
The Lord resides. How much courage does it require to kill animals or insects?
People go around killing snakes and insects too readily, yet is it such a brave
thing to do? You can only destroy that which you are capable of creating.
A
bedbug is a bedbug by the relative viewpoint, but by the real viewpoint it is a
Pure Soul (shuddhatma). Do you want to kill a Pure Soul? If the bedbug is
intolerable, pick it up and put it outside. Man looks for his happiness through
killing. How is it possible to kill and find happiness at the same time?
Questioner:
What should we do if we have an invasion of ants in the house?
Dadashri: Just keep the door of that room
shut. People find ants annoying,
but in nature, such a nuisance will last only a few days and when the time comes
to an end, it will disappear. So just keep the room closed. You can even discover this on your own,
if you were to analyze everything; whether this nuisance is permanent or
temporary.
Questioner: Most of the time the ants head for the
kitchen, so how can we keep the kitchen closed?
Dadashri: That
is just a false belief. Understand that you must move away from wherever the
nuisance is. Keep two separate cooking areas in your home if you can. Keep a spare stove in your home. Can you
not forego a fully cooked meal for one day? Killing is a very serious matter.
Questioner: We only kill them if they get in
our way. We do not go out of our
way to kill them.
Dadashri: For
those who want to kill insects, such a situation will present itself to
them. Those who do not want to kill
will come across circumstances that will accommodate their
intent.
If
you make an effort, ‘never to kill’ and try, then your circumstances will
change. Unless you understand the law that operates this world, the practice of
killing will not cease and as a result you will not be able to break away from
the habits of this worldly life. If you accidentally kill an insect, do
pratikraman and ask for forgiveness.
Questioner:
Will the use of insecticides affect us?
Dadashri:
The very moment you kill anything, a change occurs in the subtle subatomic
particles within you. Innumerable living organisms within you die. The killing you do externally is
proportionate to the killing that happens internally. There is an entire cosmos within you,
just as there is on the outside. So kill as much as you want to, but understand
that the same destruction is taking place within you, for there is as much
within the body as there is in the universe.
There
are so many ‘thieves and pickpockets’ around that one is never safe. But if you
never have a thought of picking someone’s pocket or stealing from someone, then
no one is going to steal from you. In the same token if instead of violence, you
choose non-violence, you will not come across any circumstances of violence.
That is the way of the world. If you understand this world just once, your
problems will be solved.
The
fault is of the entity that endorses.
Questioner: During the rainy season when there is an
abundance of mosquitoes and flies, the municipal authorities tell us to spray
our houses with insecticide. Is that not a sin? But if we do not use the
insecticide, there will be an outbreak of disease.
Dadashri:
What is the difference between this and what Hitler did with his bombs? This is ‘Hitler’ on a very small scale.
Questioner: But we are talking about the whole town
here!! It is filthy in the rainy season and there are flies and swarms of
mosquitoes everywhere. The local authorities are forced to use
insecticides.
Dadashri: What difference is it make to you what
the municipal authorities do? You should simply have the intent not to
kill. Your only intent should be:
"It would be better if things were not so."
Questioner: Then does the responsibility lie with
those who carry out the work in the municipal authorities?
Dadashri:
No. It does not concern
them.
Questioner: Then who is
responsible?
Dadashri: The workers merely carry out their
orders, but the head officers who give the order would be
liable.
Questioner: But for whose benefit do the officers
give the orders?
Dadashri: They are simply doing their duty.
This is not for us.
Questioner: But we are the ones who file complaints
about the nuisance of mosquitoes.
Dadashri:
The ones who do not wish to hurt, do not complain. They are not responsible.
Those who complain are responsible.The liability therefore, falls on those who
approve and endorse it.
Questioner: So is it dependent upon each
individual’s inner intent?
Dadashri: Yes, your inner intent will determine
the degree of liability you incur.
Questioner: If a mouse or a bird dies in a water
tank, the tank will need to be cleaned out and disinfected. Will the use of the disinfectants, not
kill all the living organisms in the tank? Who will be accountable for this sin?
Is it the one who does the disinfecting or the one who makes others do it?
Dadashri:
Both the direct doer and the one who makes other do, are responsible. Our intent
must remain that of non-violence. We should not have an opinion to
kill.
Questioner:
The inner intent is to prevent
disease. If the water in the tank remains contaminated, the people who drink it
will fall ill.
Dadashri: Yes, the wrongful deeds continue. If you take into account such wrongful
deeds, then such deeds are constantly taking place in the
world.
You
have to take care of yourself and not worry about anyone else. Each individual
must look after himself. Every living being has brought with him, his life and
time of death. That is why the Lord
has said that no one can kill anyone. This statement however, cannot be declared
publicly otherwise people may abuse it.
Who
do you suppose will clean the contaminated water-tank in the household of ten
people? It will be the person with the ego. He will say that he will clean out
the tank because he is the right person for the job. All the liability without
doubt will fall on that person - the one who takes on the doer ship.
Questioner:
But he is doing it out of
compassion.
Dadashri: Whatever it may be, he still commits a
sin for which he will have to repay in the next life.
Questioner: Then what should one do? Drink the contaminated
water?
Dadashri: You cannot alter the circumstances. The
person with the ego will not refrain from taking on the doer ship of cleaning up
the tank. You will still continue
to get clean water. You will always find someone with ego that will clean the
water for you. Yes indeed,
everything in this world is at your disposal, but it is your merit karma that
falls short. Your obstacles in life
will be proportionate to the amount of ego you exercised. When this ego is
uprooted and its support is destroyed, the whole world will be yours. You will
not lack anything. The ego is your
only obstacle.
Violence
In Educational Istitutions
Questioner: Students of agriculture have to catch
and kill butterflies in order to study them. If they do not carry out their
assignments, they will be given a failing grade. So what should they do? Is
there sin in what they are doing?
Dadashri:
Before
starting their assignment, they should pray to The Lord for an hour and ask for
forgiveness for having to face such a task. They should maintain the intent of
non-violence and wish that they did not have to carry it out. ‘ Dear Lord, I ask
for your forgiveness. Let my circumstances be free of all
violence’.
Questioner: It
is really the instructors that inspire such assignments, so should they not be
held liable in sin?
Dadashri:
Yes the binding of karma gets distributed sixty-forty percent. Sixty percent of the liability is the
instructor’s the one who commences the deed) and forty percent is the student’s
who carries out the deed.
Questioner: Is everything not under the control of
vyavasthit? These people are merely the instruments, so why do they end up
binding demerit karma?
Dadashri: Such violence should not unfold in our
life, but it still happens. This is the result of demerit karma. Would you be
happy if you had to slaughter goats in your work?
Questioner:
I would not like that. But Dada
what if one has no choice in this matter?
Dadashri: If one has no choice, then he should
carry out the deed with total repentance. He should repent everyday for one
hour. Can you or any scientist for
that matter create even one butterfly?
Questioner: No, it is not possible
Dada.
Dadashri:
Then how can you kill something that you cannot create?
All
these people should pray to The Lord and repent. They should question why they
have to undertake such tasks. A farmer should question why he became a farmer.
There is a lot of violence in farming, but it is not as great as that of killing
butterflies. Killing butterflies is an outright himsa.
Questioner: Not
only do they kill the butterflies, but if they happen to catch a good specimen,
they also take pride in presenting it for a better grade!
Dadashri: Whatever degree of pleasure they
experience, they will have to experience the same degree of sorrow from the
karma that presents its result. They will have to suffer just as much misery and
bitterness as the pride and happiness they derive from it.
Separate
Account Book of Sins
Questioner: If one man cuts grass, another chops a
tree, another kills a mosquito, another kills an elephant and another kills a
human being, there is violence involved in each act, but are the consequences
not different in each case?
Dadashri:
Yes the consequences will be different.
The blade of grass is not significant.
Questioner:
But is there not a presence of the Soul in the grass as well?
Dadashri: That is true. But the grass suffers in a state of
dormancy.
Questioner: So the degree of the sin one binds is
proportionate and directly related to the amount of suffering felt by the other
entity?
Dadashri: Yes, the amount of sin is based on the
degree of suffering of the other living being.
Questioner: Many people have beautiful gardens
surrounding their homes.
Dadashri: There is nothing wrong with that. The
only reason for telling people not to keep gardens is because a lot of precious
time is wasted in maintaining them and not because of the violence it involves.
Questioner: But are we not instrumental in causing
this violence?
Dadashri: There is nothing wrong with being an
instrument. The whole world is
instrumental in forms. Everything just continues to happen in this way. You do
not have to concern yourself with the single-sensory organisms because you are
not inflicting any pain on them. Some people unnecessarily become overly
concerned with such forms of violence. Nevertheless, you should not
deliberately pick leaves from trees unnecessarily. You should not indulge
yourself in meaningless things. If you need to
break a twig, you must ask the tree for its permission.
Questioner:
Is there not a difference between walking on grass and walking on a footpath?
Dadashri: Yes there is, but the difference is
insignificant. People have been misled into making an issue out of small things
while the important points have been overlooked altogether. You commit greater
violence when you become annoyed and irritated with people, because such
behavior hurts them.
The
Role of Karma In Farming
Questioner: Is there sin in
farming?
Dadashri: There is sin everywhere. There is sin in farming and also in the
business of selling grains. There
are so many tiny organisms involved in this. When people sell grain they are
also selling the insects in the grain. The money was taken for the insects. The
insects are eaten with the grain.
Questioner: But when the farmer nurtures one plant
and kills the weed around, is it not sin?
Dadashri: Yes, indeed there
is!
Questioner: Then how can he
farm?
Dadashri: Sin and virtue is intrinsic in all work.
The farmer kills some plants and nurtures others. He will bind virtue for the
ones he nurtures, and sin for the ones he kills. There is twenty five percent
sin and seventy-five percent virtue, so there is a profit of fifty
percent.
Questioner: So does the sin get deducted from the
virtue or vice-versa?
Dadashri: No, it does not work like that. Both the positives and negatives are recorded. If the
positives and negatives negated each other then you would not come across a
single unhappy person. And if that were the case, no one would seek liberation,
because everyone would be perfectly content here.
The
whole world is binding both sin and virtue. Virtue occurs alongside sin. But the Lord has
said that one should do the kind of business where the profits outweigh the
losses.
Special
Pratikraman For Farmers
Questioner: In your book we have read the
prayer: “Let no one be hurt in the
slightest degree, through the medium of my mind, speech and body." But we are farmers. We grow tobacco and
to get a good crop, we have to break off the tips of every plant. Thousands of
plants are cut in this manner. How can we avoid this kind of
sin?
Dadashri: In your mind you should be repenting.
That is all you have to do.
As you snap the tender leaves, you should repent from within as to why
such a task has befallen you and why you are engaged in such an occupation. That is all.
Questioner: But the sin will occur anyway, will it
not?
Dadashri: That is true. But you do not have to worry about
that. You do not have to worry
about the sin that is happening. From within you must repent and inquire how you
ended up doing this violence in this life. Maintain the inner intent of
non-violence and be resolute in that.
You
would not be able to repent unless you have this understanding. On the contrary you would happily throw
away the cuttings without thinking. Do you understand this? If you do your work the way I tell you,
your liability becomes mine. There is no problem when you throw away the
plants, but you should always repent for it.
Questioner:
I
understand. Compared with the farmers, the businessmen do greater sin, but even
more than the businessmen, it is the people who sit at home that do the greater
sin. Sins are committed through the mind and not the body.
Dadashri: You have to understand this fact. It is not necessary for others to
understand it. Let them believe what they will; whatever they believe is correct
for them. But for your purpose, you have to understand what I am
saying.
Questioner: What should we do when we have to spray
insecticide on the cotton crop?
There is violence in it, is there not?
Dadashri: Any work that is unavoidable must be
done with a condition contingent upon doing pratikraman.
You do not know how to conduct yourself
in this worldly life, but once I show you the way, you will cease to bind new
sin.
If
you are a farmer, you are bound to bind sin, because you destroy countless lives
when you plough the land and harvest the crops. For this very reason, I am
showing you how this sin can be reduced. I am giving you the medicine to wash
away your sin and if you use it, you will incur a lesser liability and you will
be able to enjoy the worldly happiness.
All
farmers incur a liability from the violence involved in the type of work they
do, which is why every farmer must pray for forgiveness from the Lord and do
pratikraman for ten minutes each day for committing such violence.
Virtue
And Sin Do Not Affect The Self-Realized.
Questioner:
Is it not a sin to use insecticides in farming? Is the manufacturing of insecticides a
sin?
Dadashri: Yes it is, because it is made with the
intention of killing life. One buys
and uses the insecticide with the intention of killing. So that is all
sin.
Questioner: But the motive behind it is to produce
better crops.
Dadashri:
I know what makes the crops grow; what supports the farmers and their farming. I
know and understand the real foundation behind all things happening in the
world. People do not have this knowledge of the real doer and that is why they
assume the doer ship of their acts. They believe that the crops grow because of
their efforts and actions. The farmers believe that the crops grow better
because they use the pesticides. To give support to one’s actions with this
belief of doer ship is a very grave sin. Once this wrong belief of doer ship is
taken away, there is no attachment to the action, and therefore no resulting
consequences.
Questioner: So then what happens to the independent
individual effort?
Dadashri: The true definition of purushaarth(
highest inner endeavor) is to observe and know the events that are happening,
nothing else. Furthermore, the thoughts that arise in your mind are your ‘files’
(Dadashri’s word for anything or anyone that you have a karmic account
with). These too, you must simply
observe and not interfere with.
Questioner: Then should one farm or
not?
Dadashri: There is nothing wrong in
farming.
Questioner: What about the liability of sin in
farming?
Dadashri: After Self-Realization (Dadashri imparts
The Self in The Gnan Vidhi), sin does not touch you. You are Pure Soul; you are
no longer ‘Chandubhai’(worldy name, the reader should substitute his or her own
name). As long as you believe that you are Chandubhai, you will bind sin. Do you believe that you are
Chandubhai?
Questioner: No.
Dadashri: So then how can sin bind you? There is
no more charging of karma. Whatever
farming you have to do, is your ‘file’, which you deal with, with equanimity.
And if you have this, ‘I am Pure Soul’
within you continuously as I have given you, then no amount of insecticide use
will affect you. This is because ‘You’ are Pure Soul and ‘Chandubhai’ is the one
spraying the insecticide. If you feel sympathy or remorse, then you become
Chandubhai.
Questioner: Does the farmer incur any binding of
karma in making, selling, buying or using the
insecticides?
Dadashri:
No. When the manufacturers of insecticides ask me what will happen to them, I
tell them that nothing will happen to them, as long as they follow my
instructions.
Questioner: So does that mean that as long as a
person says, ‘I am Pure Soul’ he can continue to do violence?
Dadashri: It is not a question of doing
violence. There is no violence in
‘I am Pure Soul’. There is no ‘doership’ or anything to be done in the state of
the Pure Soul.
Questioner:
So from the worldly perspective of one’s general conduct or behavior, is it not
considered a wrongful deed?
Dadashri:
From the worldly perspective it is sin. However it only becomes a sin when one
becomes ‘Chandubhai’. After this Gnan, you are no longer Chandubhai. You have
become the Pure Soul and you have constant awareness of it. This awareness is
called shukla dhyan (pure meditation) and to have the awareness of ‘I am
Chandubhai’ is ahankari dhyan (egotistical meditation).
So
many people have taken this Gnan, but never once do they misuse it. On the
contrary they ask me whether they should stop or change their occupation. I tell
them that if it happens naturally then they may do so, otherwise they should
continue with it.
Occupations
Involving Violence
Questioner:
My friend does not understand why it is wrong to manufacture pesticides when one
acquires such an occupation as a result of one’s past karmas. How can the
butcher be blamed for selling meat when he is only doing what his karma
dictates? He is paying his dues according to his karmas.
Dadashri: Yes and your friend would continue to
presume this if he did not question it. But because of his merit karma, he is
now questioning this. This is tremendous merit karma unfolding. If one did not question such things, the violence
would continue causing much harm to inner living beings in addition to the
external harm. This results in decline in spiritual awareness. He becomes blunt
and insensitive. The external violence is insignificant because in reality it
does not reduce the number of insects killed. It
is the subtle life formss within oneself that are killed and as a result brings
about insensitivity in a person.
Questioner: Whenever I meet my old friends, I tell
them that they ought to leave their occupations and I give them examples of many
successful people whose lives have been ruined as a result of their occupations,
but they do not heed my advice. Many have even quit after becoming
ruined.
Dadashri: It is because of tremendous sin that one
comes to do business involving so much violence. It would be best if you were to
become free of such trades. There are so many other ways to make a living. A man once told me that of all his
businesses, his grocery business was the most lucrative. When I asked him what he did if his
grain became infested with bugs, he told me that he would do everything possible
to get rid of the insects, but he could not eliminate them completely. I assured
him that there was nothing wrong in what he was doing, but in selling the
grains, he was also charging for the weight of the insects that remained in the
grain and so he was selling lives for profit.
The
Jewelery Business Is The Best
Dadashri:
People
with a lot of merit karma in past life acquire professions with the least amount
of violence. The business of selling
diamonds and precious gems would be one such profession. There is no
scope of violence here. But nowadays even in this profession people have learned
to do business dishonestly. Nothing prevents one from doing this business honestly if he wants to. In this profession
no living beings are killed, but other kinds of violence can occur. Second to that would be the gold and silver business.
The butcher’s business involves the highest amount of violence. Next comes the
potter, who does a lot of violence when he fires his ware. It is all
violence.
Questioner:
Regardless of the kind of violence one does, whether it is charge violence
(violent intent) or discharge violence (violence in action), is one not still
held accountable for it?
Dadashri:
Can you not see people suffering? They are constantly suffering the results of
violence. There is nothing but suffering…
People
in occupations that involve violence do not have any radiance on their faces and
they appear unhappy. The farm hand toils and is unhappy because of the effects
of his past life violence. His landlord appears happy as he does not have to
toil and is enjoying the fruits of his merit karma. This has been the law of
life, the law of karma all along.
The process behind which one acquires the kind of work he does is a
natural one. One could not run away from such a
business even if he wanted to. If all parents of our nation thought, ‘we do not
want to send our son in the armed forces because he might get killed’, then we
would not have a defense force. Yet all nations have a defense force. This is
the natural law. Nature is at work
here and nature brings forth the results, so do not be concerned
unnecessarily.
Hoarding
Is Violence
Questioner: Businessmen make an excessive amount of
profit. Many of them make money without putting in any effort. Some do not even
compensate their workers adequately.
Is such behavior not violence?
Dadashri: That
is all violent behavior.
Questioner: What kind of violence is it when a
person gives money obtained through devious and violent means towards a
religious cause?
Dadashri: If that money is donated for a
charitable cause, whatever amount he sacrifices, his liability will be reduced
accordingly. For example, if he earned a hundred thousand rupees and donated
eighty thousand to build a hospital, then his liability will be reduced by
whatever he donates. He will still be liable for the remaining twenty thousand
rupees. So it is good that he
spends it for a worthy cause. There is nothing wrong with
it.
Questioner: Is it not violence when people hoard
money?
Dadashri:
That is violence. Any kind of hoarding is violence because
hoarding deprives others of the use of money.
Questioner: People accumulate money by mass killing
of other human beings so that they can live lavishly. What is that
called?
Dadashri: That too is wrong! One will be punished according to the
amount of liability one incurs. The best way to live is to keep as little as
possible.
Confront
In Peace.
Questioner: You say that one should not steal, and
not do violence. But if a person
steals from us or cheats us, should we confront him or
not?
Dadashri: You have to confront him. Do it in such a way that it does not
affect your peace within. Very calmly and deliberately ask, ‘brother, what wrong
have I done that you are stealing and hurting me?’ If he has stolen something
worth a hundred rupees do not confront him with anger. If you do you would have
sustained a loss of five hundred rupees. You will incur a greater loss by
becoming angry with him.
Violence Ceases Through
Opposition.
Questioner: Is it considered subtle violence to
cheat a person, to torment him, to steal from him or betray his
trust?
Dadashri: It is all violence. In fact, it is a greater violence than
the visible violence and its consequences are also greater. To cause someone mental distress, hurt,
cheat, betray or steal from him is raudradhyan (adverse internal meditation that
hurts others), the consequence of which will be a life in
hell.
Questioner:
Is it right to give more importance to subtle violence, as opposed to gross
overt violence such as cruelty to helpless animals, their slaughter and violent
exploitation? And when one remains neutral towards such violence, is his
approach appropriate?
Dadashri:
No that is not right. One should always
oppose any forms of violence. By not opposing it, you are condoning it. If you are not doing one you are doing
the other. Therefore whoever it is,
be it an ordinary person or a Gnani, he must be opposed to it, or else it would
be the same as encouraging it!
Questioner: Can we become instrumental in stopping
violence against humans, animals and other living entities, when their suffering
has come as a result of their own karma?
Dadashri: Regardless of the consequences of their
karma, if you do not try to stop the violence, it is tantamount to encouraging
it. So try to stop it.
If
you see a wounded person, you should stop to help him. Do whatever you can to
help him. Even though he is
suffering because of his past karma, you should still maintain your intent of
non-violence. If on the other hand,
you do not stop to help him, you will bind karma because violent intent will accumulate within
you. This world will not liberate you. You have to liberate
yourself.
Questioner: Is it imperative for those interested in
making spiritual progress to make an effort towards stopping violence? If so, how can that be
achieved?
Dadashri: If one is desirous of spiritual progress
but makes no effort to stop violence, then it is the same as encouraging
violence. All spiritual aspirations must be coupled with efforts to stop
violence.
Questioner: Why is there no awareness to prevent
gross visible violence under such circumstances?
Dadashri:
It is absolutely necessary to prevent all such violence. You have to make every
effort to do this. If necessary, you should organize groups and elect people to
represent your cause to the government. This will yield stronger results. Everyone should have strong feelings
against violence. These feelings have to be strengthened and
encouraged.
Questioner: But Dada, ultimately these are all
accounts and consequences of past karma, are they not?
Dadashri: Yes, they are, but you can only say so
after the fact. If you dismiss them as accounts beforehand, things are likely to
be ruined. If those who thrive as
so called ‘ascetics’ were to come to your village to abduct the children, you
must try to stop them. You would be
grieved if your child was kidnapped.
By the same token you should feel deep sorrow for the slaughtering of
animals and oppose it. How will you accomplish the task otherwise? You cannot
remain apathetic and do nothing.
You can regard it as the consequence of past accounts, but even the Lord
was opposed to such violence.
Therefore you should collectively show your opposition towards it and
unite against it. In doing so, you are not really opposing violence, but you are
expressing your non-violent intent.
A
safe-haven for cows established by Lord Krishna
Many
domestic animals were being slaughtered during Lord Krishna’s time. What did
Lord Krishna do to stop this? People say that he raised the Govardhan Mountain
on his fingertip. Govardhan means to increase the population of cows. This is a
metaphor for what He really did, which was to single-handedly save the cows from
being slaughtered. People in India depend on domestic animals for their
livelihood. Lord Krishna's aim was to protect
these animals and increase their population and so He established shelters for
cows, which in turn led to an increase in dairy production. He did this single-handedly, hence
the symbolism. It is not necessary to protect animals that are violent, like
cats dogs and carnivorous animals. No one uses them as their food. Cows need
protection because they provide food for humans. Therefore protection and
propogation of cows is a worthwhile cause.
For
the time being, more than protecting the cows, it is very important for you to
focus on how to increase their population. The benefits derived from their milk
and dairy production is invaluable. If you were to explain this to people and
instead of forcing them, ask them to volunteer in order to help establish a
custom to keep cattle in all the villages, then the population would increase.
All one needs to worry about is protecting the cows and educating people about
the benefits of increased dairy production. At the moment there is no increase
in the cow population and the slaughtering continues. We may hesitate in
speaking up against the violence, but at the same time it is a sin to remain
silent. We are not doing anything
wrong, we are trying to prevent violence.
Questioner: We
are not asking that the cows be set free from the clutches of the butcher, but
we are trying to prevent new cows from reaching them.
Dadashri:
Yes do try to save the new ones from reaching the slaughterhouse. You should explain to the real owner
that he should not do such things.
For the time being you just need to concern yourself with protecting the
cows and trying to increase their population. Everything else is secondary. Once these rules are established, then
you can go on to do other things.
Questioner: ‘Govardhan’,
this is a completely new meaning of this word.
Dadashri: Yes, these are all just various events,
which took place, but they can only be beneficial if they are interpreted
correctly. People turn them into
mere folklore and scientists dismiss such stories as myth. Naturally they will question how a
person can hold up a mountain on his fingertip! And if Lord Krishna did carry it
on his fingertip, why then did he not carry the Himalayas? And if he could
performs such incredible feats, why does he then get shot with an arrow and die?
But in reality it is not like this.
He enforced Govardhan, the propogation of
cows in a wonderful manner because during that time tremendous violence was
occurring. It is not just the Moslems who commit violence, but some Hindus do
also.
One should not have any violent intent.
Man should be non-violent in intent. One is considered to have non-violent
intent when one dedicates one’s life towards the cause of non-violence.
Flowers
For Worship: Sin?
Questioner:
Is
there sin in offering flowers when we pray at the temples?
Dadashri: It is a sin to pluck flowers and it is
also a sin to buy flowers, but when it comes to offering flowers in worship, one
has to look at it in a different light. I will explain
this.
When
one offers flowers devotionally, there is a benefit derived. Many believe that
it is a great sin to pick flowers and yet so many others use them in their
worship. This spiritual path is of
the Vitarag Lords, which takes into account benefits over non-benefits. There is violence in picking flowers,
but when those flowers are offered to the Lord or even to the Gnani Purush, it
is considered worship visible to all. There is benefit in such worship. After
all the person is not using the flower for his own benefit. For example he incurs a five percent
liability from the violence in picking flowers, but when he offers the flowers
to a Gnani, he earns a benefit of thirty percent or when he offers it to the
Lord, he earns a benefit of forty percent.
So overall he has gained from this act. You should conduct yourself in such a
way that your benefits are greater than your losses but you should stop if your
losses are greater than your gains. If however, you do not pick any flowers,
then there is no gain or loss.
Suffering
Inflicted On Flower Plants.
Questioner: Have I not bound sins for all the
flowers that I have picked so far?
Dadashri: The sin that you incur from
picking flowers for thousands of years is still lesser than the sin you bind
from just a single lifetime worth of kashayas (anger, pride, attachment and
greed) you create with those near you. That is why The Lord has said that the
first thing man needs to do is to stop arguments and bickering. Picking flowers
is not a problem, but it should not be done unnecessarily for one’s own vanity
and pleasure. One can pick flowers as an
offering to The Lord.
Questioner: But there is a saying: “Where even a
flower petal is harmed, one has transgressed the principles of the Jinas
(Enlightened Ones)”.
Dadashri:
Those are the words of the Tirthankars that Krupadudev had written. But where is
this applicable? It is for the one who has
reached a spiritual level where one is free from all desires. But for
you, you still have to wear these fancy clothes, do you not?
Questioner:
Yes, and they have to be ironed too!
Dadashri: Yes ironed ones at that too! The worldly people have a need for many
things. That is why it is said that one should offer the flowers to The
Lord. Have you not seen people
offer flowers to the idols of Tirthankaras?
Religious
rituals are done to decrease difficulties in life. The Lord has said that the
ascetics should do intent puja (internalized offering to The Lord as opposed to
dravya puja which utilizes material objects for external offering). The Jains do dravya puja. Through dravya puja their worldly
obstacles are removed. So what I am saying is that if you have difficulties in
life, you should offer flowers to the Gnani Purush. Those that do not have any
difficulties need not do anything at all. But as far as the Gnani Purush is
concerned, he remains detached.
Yet
despite all this, some people still
raise this quote and obsess
over hurt caused by picking even flower petals. I tell them that in doing so,
they are mixing both the college and elementary levels of understanding. They
would do better to heed what Krupaduev has said when they reach a higher
spiritual level. I gave them Lord
Mahavir’s example to illustrate the point.
I
told them that in His final incarnation, Lord Mahavir was married and also had a
daughter. He led a worldly life
until the age of thirty and despite this He attained full liberation. What knowledge allowed Him to achieve
liberation despite going through a married life? This is the level of spiritual
development where this quote is relevant.
So
understand that flowers can be offered to the deities. People are needlessly cautious about
violence towards flowers while they have no reservations about their kashayas
and hurting people around them. They do not inflict pain on the flowers but they
inflict gross pain on people. The One who truly does not hurt even a flower
petal is non-violent in all respects.
He would even walk very carefully so as not to disturb a sleeping dog.
This
matter of not hurting even a flower petal is only applicable in the last fifteen
years of one’s final life of liberation. Such subtle non-violence commences with
the renunciation of married life and happens naturally.When a person reaches
that level, everything will come naturally. So until then do not interfere with
the social customs.
The
Universe Of A Single Sensory Organism
Questioner: What exactly are the jalakaya, teookaya,
proothvikaya, vaayukaya and vanaspatikaya (organisms found in water, fire,
earth, wind and vegetation respectively)?
Dadashri: These are all embodied souls with a single sensory
function.
Questioner: We know for sure that there are subtle
life formss in water, which is why we boil the water before we drink
it.
Dadashri: What you know about the organisms found
in water is based on what you have been told, but in reality the facts are very
difficult and too subtle for one to understand. Even if you were given a clear
explanation, it would still elude you.
Not even the scientists can understand this. Only the Gnanis understand
it. Of the five, only the organisms in vegetation can be understood, the others
require a more profound spiritual level.
Questioner: That is what the scientists are
researching.
Dadashri: They
will not be able to understand it even then. They only understand the vegetation, but
even that knowledge is limited.
Let
me explain this to you in the Lord’s language: All the vegetation that you see
around you has life. Life is also present in the air, the dirt, and rocks. The rocks also contain living organisms
known as proothvikaya. Flames of a fire are really a collection of organisms
called teookaya. The water we drink is composed of jalkaya, the organisms whose
very bodies represent a glass of water. Water is
composed entirely of animate beings. Everything around you, water, food, air,
earth and fire is living.
The
Spiritual Power Of Non-violence
Questioner: So how can attain perfect
Ahimsa?
Dadashri: Ahimsa? My goodness! If one attains perfect
Ahimsa, he would become a The Lord. In the meantime however, do you practice
at least some Ahimsa?
Questioner: Some, not a lot.
Dadashri: Very well then, why don’t you make a
decision to practice at least some Ahimsa? It is futile to talk about achieving
absolute Ahimsa. Such Ahimsa when achieved makes man a The
Lord.
Questioner: Show us how to practice
Ahimsa.
Dadashri: Most important of all, you must not hurt
or inflict pain on any living being that fears your mere presence. Animals and
insects instinctively flee from you in fear, and so you must not harm them. It
is fine for you to eat grains such as wheat, millet, oats, rice etc., because
although they contain life, it is in an unconscious state and does not perceive
fear, whereas insects will flee from you when they sense danger. You must not
harm any life forms starting from the two-sensory organisms such as the
shellfish, which move around, to the five-sensory organisms starting from
insects onwards. Even a bedbug is terrified when you catch it, so you must not
kill it. Do you understand this?
Questioner: Yes, I understand.
Dadashri: Secondly,
do not eat after sunset.
Thirdly,
in practicing Ahimsa, you must exercise control over your speech. How do you feel when someone tells you
that you are worthless?
Questioner: I feel very hurt.
Dadashri: So in the same token you must realize
that others too feel hurt if you were to say such things to them. Hurting people
is violence, so you should not utter such words. If you want to practice Ahimsa then you
should be very conscious about violence in speech. You cannot say to others anything that
hurts you.
You
should not have bad thoughts either.
Nor should you entertain thoughts about cheating someone of his
possessions or taking things from people without compensating them. Even
thoughts about accumulating or hoarding money are considered violence, because
it deprives others of their share.
You should not have any such thoughts.
Questioner: Are these three the only things I need
to observe for Ahimsa?
Dadashri: No, there are still some more points.
You should never eat meat or eggs.
Nor should you eat potatoes, onions and garlic, even when you have no
choice. Onions and garlic are
considered violence foods because they contain properties that incite anger in a
person, which in turn hurts others. Any other vegetable is
acceptable.
First
Try To Save The Larger Life Formss
The
Lord tells you to take care of human beings first. Here is a guideline: Be aware
to not hurt any human being, even in the
slightest degree, through your mind, speech and body.
Then
come the five-sensory living things such as cows, chickens, goats etc. You do
not have to worry about these as much as you should about humans, nevertheless
you should be careful and not harm them in any way.
Next
come the two or more sensory living things. The best kind of food to eat is any
food that comprises one-sensory living beings. Anyone desirous of liberation should not
eat foods comprised of two or more sensory life formss. The higher the numbers of senses of life
forms in one’s food, the more of his merit karma is used up. You should not take
on the liability for violence against lives with two or more
senses.
We
humans must eat to survive, but when we consume food, we incur a liability
because the food we eat is made up of at least one-sensory life forms. When we eat, the life formss, which is
our food we are responsible for the violence that arises from the act of
eating. But the Lord has allowed us
the freedom to eat because of our very high merit karma balance. In the act of eating these life formss,
although you incur a liability, the benefits you gain are much greater. The nourishment sustains you and keeps
you alive and because you do good deeds, you earn merit karma. It is like, you
earn hundred points from your good deeds, but in destroying these life formss,
you lose ten points. These ten
points will go to the life forms, which will earn them a birth in a higher life
forms. This progression into higher
life formss is a natural process in the universe. They will progress from a
single-sensory organism to a two-sensory organism and so on. The evolutionary process takes place in
this manner. In providing benefits to humans, these life formss also reap
benefits for themselves. But people do not understand this science.
Therefore
you must not interfere with the violence in eating single-sensory life forms. To
do so is involvement of the ego.
The single-sensory life forms do not run away from you in fear, so you
should not have any qualms about whether or not to eat them. This is the way of
life. One cannot survive without eating and drinking.
The
entire world is composed of life forms. Actually, the whole world is a
collection of life forms. The basis of life is at least single-sensory. You
cannot eat anything that does not contain life; moreover there is nothing in
this world that is void of life.
You can only eat food that contains life because that is the only way you
can nourish and sustain your body. Everything we eat is at least one-sensory
life form if not more. The
Lord does not forbid the
consumption of single-sensory organisms because they do not contain blood, pus
or meat. If you start worrying about the single-sensory life forms, there will
be no end to it. In fact you are not to worry about them at all. People on the
other hand have become overly concerned with things that have little
significance and have altogether dismissed things of greater importance. You should not worry about the violence
that occurs at the minuscule level.
Which
Is The Best Food?
Questioner: Why are some foods forbidden in the
kramik (traditional step by step path towards liberation)
path?
Dadashri: There are different categories of food.
The worst and the most deleterious kind is the human flesh. Next comes the meat
of animals. In this category however, it is better to consume the flesh of the
species whose population increases rapidly, such as chickens, fish or ducks, as
opposed to eating the meat of cattle and such animals whose population does not
increase at a rapid rate. Eating
eggs is better than eating meat. But those who want to further their spiritual
progress should consume only edible roots e.g. carrots and potatoes. And those who want to progress even
further, I say that they should avoid even these and consume only foods such as
breads, whole-grain, sweetmeats and ghee. And beyond this, further spiritual
growth would require the avoidance of any foods containing unrefined sugar,
ghee, butter, honey, yogurt and cream. In this case, people should eat only
rice, lentils and vegetables, which is the ideal diet.
Foods
are categorized in this manner and anyone can choose the category of his
preference. The descriptions of the different categories are given to enhance
one’s knowledge and not for the purpose of enforcement. The Lord had made these
distinctions to break the veils of ignorance obscuring the Soul.
Evening
Meal: Before Or After Sunset?
Questioner:
In Jainism it is forbidden to eat after dark. Can you enlighten us further on
this topic?
Dadashri: As far as timing of food intake is
concerned, it is best not to eat after dark. This is the best approach but it has
nothing to do with religion. It became incorporated into religion because one
makes greater religious progress as one’s body becomes healthier. As far as religion is concerned not
eating after dark serves to cleanse the body but it is not mandatory.
Questioner: So is it for the health of the body or
the sin involved, that the Vitarags (The Enlightened Lords) advocated not eating
after dark?
Dadashri: It is meant for the health of the body,
as well as for the practice of ahimsa.
Questioner: But why shouldn’t we eat after dark?
Dadashri: According to the principles of Jainism
and Vedanta, evening meals should always be eaten while the sun is still
present. The Vedant view holds that your internal organs are more receptive
during the daytime allowing the process of digestion to occur. The Jain view
from the tirthankars for eating meals before dark is that all life forms return
home when the sun sets.
At
times, because of the clouds it may be difficult to see whether or not the sun
has set, but the embodied souls have an internal power that allows them to sense
the day’s end. One can tell that the day has ended when the life forms return
home. Even the subtlest of life forms, which are not perceptible under a
microscope, return home. They settle on the food and remain unseen because they
are of the same color as the food.
This is why food should not be eaten
after dark. People are not aware about the harm that is caused when they eat
after dark. Not to eat after dark is considered a mahavrat (highest religious
vow). This can be considered the sixth mahavrat (the five vows given by Lord
Mahavir are ahimsa, adherence to truth, non-stealing, non-possessiveness, and
brahmacharya).
Questioner:
If a person has no choice but to eat
after dark, will he be binding karma?
Dadashri: No. Karmas are not bound in this way. Why
does one have to break that rule? Someone must have taught you to observe it,
right?
Questioner:
As a Jain, I have been brought up that way.
Dadashri:
In that case you should do
pratikraman in the name of Lord Mahavir.
It is the Lord’s instruction, so you must abide by it and if you cannot
follow it, you must ask for forgiveness. If you want to practice ahimsa and keep
your body healthy, it is best that you eat before sunset. Do you normally eat
early?
Questioner: I have started to do so
recently.
Dadashri: Who made you do
it?
Questioner: I started doing it because I wanted to,
on my own.
Dadashri: But from now on you should do it with the
understanding that it is for the
sake of ahimsa, as explained by Dadashri that I am doing it. It is useless if it
is done without a purpose. It is just like paying installments for a ticket for
international travel. If you finish the payments, you will get a
ticket.
Edible
Roots: An Abundance Of Subtle Life Forms
Questioner: Is it wrong to eat rootcrops as food
items?
Dadashri: Yes very wrong, but eating after dark is
worse.
Questioner: Aren’t there infinite life forms in
onions and potatoes?
Dadashri: Yes, they are infinite life
forms.
Questioner: Then do you advise eating such
vegetables?
Dadashri: The Lord has forbidden it, and this should
remain in your belief. However, if
you still end up eating them, then it is as a result of your past karmas. In
spite of this, it should not affect your belief about what The Lord
says.
Questioner: Why is it
forbidden?
Dadashri: The root crops prevent the brain from
becoming alert.
Questioner: Is it not because of the violence
against the one-sensory life forms?
Dadashri: People think that it is for the sake of
protecting the life forms within them that root crops are forbidden, but if you
like potatoes, do not become overly concerned about this. Nowadays people do not
like the taste of other allowed foods. What would happen if they were to stop
eating even potatoes?
Questioner: But
they say that there is sin in eating potatoes.
Dadashri:
You bind sin whenever you hurt any life form, whether it is your husband, wife,
child or neighbor. By eating potatoes your mind and intellect will become dull.
The reason for this is that there are infinite subtle life forms in root
vegetables. In fact root crops are nothing but a storehouse of life forms, which
is why when root crops are eaten, there is violence against these life forms,
and as a result dullness and laziness sets in. This lack of awareness results in
increase of kashayas. It is better
if you do not eat these vegetables because they dull your awareness. That awareness is especially needed
after you acquire The Lord’s path and if your awareness becomes dull, how will
you achieve liberation?
Whatever
The Lord has said is true. If you cannot abide by his teachings, do not worry,
but simply do your best. It is good if you are able to follow The Lord’s
teachings.
Kashaya:
The Ultimate Violence
People
have completely botched up everything. On the one hand they obsess about
observing ahimsa towards life forms in the root crops and yet at the same time
they do kashayas (anger, false pride, greed and illusion). This is tantamount to making a profit of
three rupees on one hand and a loss of ten million rupees on the other! They are
adamant about trivial issues and yet they do endless violence through their
kashayas. Kashayas are the greatest of all violence in the world. There is more
sin involved in kashayas than in killing a life form.
Understand
This…
Whatever
The Lord said is intended for your understanding and not to be taken
dogmatically. Do the best you can.
The Lord does not tell you to go beyond your limits.
The
Gnanis, the Enlightened Ones do not
tell you to be rigid in practicing your beliefs. Only the ignorant people will
tell you to be uncompromising. The Gnani will tell you to look objectively from
the perspective of overall profit and loss. If eating onions has a benefit of
twenty-five percent and a loss of five percent for the subtle violence, there is
a net gain of twenty percent.This is how the Gnanis assess the situation,
whereas nowadays people have ignored this notion and have become dogmatic by
preaching that one must stop eating onions and potatoes. For heaven’s sakes!
Why? What do you have against
potatoes and onions? On the contrary, when one is forced to sacrifice the things
he enjoys, he will constantly think about them, instead of thinking about The
Lord!
I
Too Had Observed These Rules
Although
I was not born a Jain, I too used to observe the rules of not eating root crops,
practicing choviyar (not eating after dark) and I always drank boiled water,
whether I was at home or out of town. My business partner and I would always
carry a flask of boiled water wherever we went. We observed The Lord’s
prescribed rules. This was my practice even before The
Enlightenment.
If
someone finds these practices too rigid and difficult, I would tell him that he
is not obligated to follow them, but if he did, he would indeed benefit from
doing so. The Lord has given us these rules so that we may recognize their
benefits and not so that we become dogmatic about them.
The
Gnani Purush does not need to renounce or takeup anything. Even then I observe
choviyar because an occasional person tell me that it upsets him to know that I
do not adhere to the timing. Sacrifices and renunciation is of no significance
when one reaches the level of a Gnani.
People interpret and practice these rules according to their level of
understanding. The Gnani Purush
does not lack anything. The Lord calls the Gnani Purush as the non-violent One in an ocean of
violence. From the very beginning I have observed choviyar, but nowadays because
of my satsang schedule, I am only able to do so on certain days. My intention is to observe it
completely, and that is what counts!
Boiled
Water For Drinking
Questioner: Why are we told to drink boiled
water?
Dadashri:
There are infinite life forms even in just one drop of water. Boiling the water
kills these life forms. By drinking
boiled water, your body stays healthy, and when the body is healthy, your
awareness increases. People however have completely misunderstood this.
The
Lord has shown us all the different ways to stay healthy and drinking boiled
water is one of them. Drinking unboiled water is violence towards these infinite
live organisms in the water. People insist on not boiling the water even though
they know that it is harmful to their health. Instead The Lord has told you to
boil the drinking water in order to keep your body healthy. But that water has
to be consumed within eight hours, after which you should not drink it because
life forms will start to grow in it again.
So
it is only for the sake of health and not so much for the violence, that people
are told to boil their drinking water. Drinking boiled water prevents the
accumulation of other organisms in the stomach. This is helpful in increasing
your awareness. By boiling the water, the larger organisms are destroyed.
Questioner: So
does that not constitute violence?
Dadashri: This kind of violence does not have much
significance because it contributes to the health of your body. With a healthy
body one can practice religion. This world there is nothing but violence. When
you eat or drink, you consume nothing but life forms.
The
Lord has not given any emphasis on the aspect of the violence on the one-sensory
life forms. People have misconstrued all this. If The Lord had intended for us
to worry about such matters, He would have advocated drinking only cold water,
since so many life forms are destroyed when water is boiled. How many life forms
do you think die in boiling water?
Questioner:
Countless.
Dadashri:
You cannot see the life forms but these
life forms themselves make up the physical composition of water. Now tell me how
can people see them when water itself is the body formed of the aggregate of all
these life forms? These life forms are such that their manifest forms is
water. Now tell me how can you deal
with something like this?
Misconception
About Vegetables
Questioner: Why do they say not to eat green
vegetables in the rainy season?
Dadashri: People have also misunderstood this
also. The Lord tells us not to eat fresh greens, not because it causes violence
but because there are subtle life forms on the greenery, which enter the stomach
causing disease and affecting the person’s overall health thereby preventing him
from effectively practicing religion. When people misinterpret the instructions,
it is like ingesting medicine, which was meant for external use only. How can
the medicine work if it is not taken correctly?
Violence
Caused By Antibiotics
Questioner: What about the medications taken to
reduce fever or infections in the body?
Dadashri: You need not worry about the violence to
such life forms.
Questioner:
An infant would die if it were not given
the medicine to kill parasites in its stomach.
Dadashri: You have to treat the child. Give the
child whatever medications are needed to kill all the parasites.
Questioner: I understand that the body must be kept
healthy for the attainment of Self-Realization, but if many life forms are
destroyed in the process, should we continue to keep the body
healthy?
Dadashri: If
you have the intent of heath as your main goal then your practice towards
Self-realization will be hindered. True
spiritual practice towards the Self happens when the aspirant’s primary focus is
not in achieving a healthy body. Your body has brought with it everything for
its preservation so you need not interfere. You should completely immerse
yourself in your spiritual goal. Everything else is as it should be. That is why
I am telling you to remain in the present, because the past is gone forever and
the future is in the hands of vyavasthit.
Think
of your body, through which you have met a Gnani Purush, as a friend. Even if
the medicine prescribed is violence, you must still take it, and care for the
body. Everything in life is based on the process of profit and loss. If this body were to live two more
years, you can accomplish a lot within this time, because it is through this
body that you have come to meet the Gnani Purush. You will incur some loss through
violence, but your benefits will be twenty times greater! Your benefits will far
outweigh your losses; it is all a business of profit and loss.
There
is nothing but life forms in this world. Countless life forms are destroyed in
just one breath, so does it mean that one should stop breathing? The problem would be solved if this were
possible because as it is people have created absolute madness around this
issue. There is nothing here that needs to be critically analyzed. The only
thing you need to be cautious about is that you must not harm those life forms
that run away from you in fear.
One’s
Diet Is Based On One’s Level Of Spiritual Development.
The
belief of foreign people is that God created this world, and that is why he
created man. He made the goats, the chicken and the fish etc. for human
consumption. If the animals were made for such a purpose, then why do humans not
eat dogs, cats or tigers? If the animals were made for eating, then God would
have made them all equal. If God were to make your food, he would make
everything edible. If God was the creator of everything, why would he make such
things as opium, tobacco and other drugs harmful to man? Why would these things
be necessary? He would just make things for the happiness of human beings. To
believe that God is the creator of all this is the greatest contradiction.
Westerners
do not believe in reincarnation and that is why they believe that everything is
made for their consumption. If they were to believe in reincarnation, they would
think about what would happen to them in their next life. But such thoughts do
not occur to them.
Annoyance
Towards Meat-Eaters?
Dadashri: Do you prefer vegetarian or
non-vegetarian food?
Questioner: I have not yet eaten non-vegetarian
food.
Dadashri: But have you ever admitted to it as
being a good thing?
Questioner: No. I am a vegetarian. But that does not mean that
non-vegetarian food is bad.
Dadashri: That is true. I do not say that it is bad. Once when I
was traveling by plane, a wealthy Muslim businessman sat in the seat next to me.
He asked me if it bothered me that he ate meat. I told him that it did not
bother me to dine with him, except that I would not eat the same food. I told him that whatever he did was fine
and that it was none of my concern. He asked me if I had any negative feelings
for him because of his diet. I told him that he should dismiss such a notion and
that it was appropriate for him to eat non-vegetarian food because he was born
to a mother who also was a non-vegetarian; it was in his blood. Nobody can refute that. Only those who
have been weaned on a vegetarian mother’s milk are told not to eat meat. I told
him that when Muslims eat meat, they do not think about the advantages and
disadvantages of it.
Therefore
you should not feel annoyed towards those who eat meat. It is merely your prejudice. You should
not have any problems with those for whom such a diet is
natural.
Willing
To Kill and Then Eat?
Questioner: But nowadays people eat non-vegetarian
food because of society’s influence.
Dadashri: That is trendy and done for pleasure.
Eating meat forever is not a problem if your mother was on such a diet when she
was breast feeding you.
Questioner:
And what if the mother herself does not
eat meat?
Dadashri: Then how can you eat it? How will you be
able to digest it if it is not in your blood? You may think that you are able to
digest it, but ultimately it is detrimental. Today you may not realize this, so
it is best if you do not eat it. If
you cannot stop eating it, you should at least have the inner intent that it is
wrong to eat it and that it would be best for you to stop.
Cows,
horses and buffaloes will never eat meat. Even if they were starving and you
were to feed them meat, they would not eat it. Such is the nature of some in the
animal kingdom. Nowadays, even the children of Jain and
Hindu parents who do not meat, have begun to do so. I tell these young people
that I do not have a problem with them eating meat as long as they kill the
animal themselves. If they wish to eat the chicken, they should kill it
themselves. They shiver at the sight of blood and yet they want to eat meat.
Eating meat is only for those who can tolerate the sight of blood; it is for
people of the warrior caste who have played with blood on the battlefields. Do
they become uncomfortable at the sight of blood? What kind of effect does the
sight of blood have on people?
Questioner:
They become uneasy.
Dadashri: So then, how can they even consider
eating meat? Someone else kills the
animal and you eat it. This is meaningless. If one were to hear the agony in the cry
of a chicken while it is being slaughtered, one would be overcome with a despondency towards the world for the
rest of one’s life. I myself have heard that cry and that is when I realized the
excruciating pain the poor animal suffers.
The
Importance Of Vegetarian
Diet
Questioner: Are there any obstacles encountered by
meat-eaters and vegetarians in their worship of the Lord? What is your
opinion?
Dadashri:
There
is no problem for the meat-eater as long as eating meat is ‘in his blood’. For
such people eating meat does not create an obstacle in their worship to The
Lord. The problem occurs when one who is not born of a meat-eating mother,
becomes non-vegetarian. But otherwise neither vegetarianism nor
non-vegetarianism presents an obstacle in one’s worship to The
Lord.
Questioner: So is worship possible without a diet of
pure vegetarian food?
Dadashri: No,
it is not possible, but in this day and age, what can one do? Pure vegetarian food is difficult to get
nowadays, and besides very few people have not succumbed to the influences of
the current time cycle. People nowadays generally fall into the company of
others who lead them astray in a non-spiritual direction.
Questioner:
How does it affect one if one unknowingly eats non-vegetarian
food?
Dadashri: Everyone is doing so unknowingly anyway,
but nevertheless there are repercussions. What if you unknowingly stuck your
hand in a fire? Even a child would get burnt, will it not? Everyone is rewarded
the same whether they do it knowingly or unknowingly. The only difference is in the way one
suffers the consequences. The consequences of actions carried out unknowingly,
will be suffered without knowledge. The consequences of those actions done with
knowledge will have to be endured in a state of awareness. That is the only
difference.
Questioner: So is it certain that food does have an
effect on the mind?
Dadashri: Everything is the effect of food. Food that is eaten turns into brandy
(that which produces a deleterious effect on awareness) in the body. These
effects are directly linked with spiritual awareness. Heavy or excessive food
decreases spiritual and mental awareness. Even pure vegetarian food has this
effect to a lesser degree. Rich and sweet foods are not considered good food
because they increase these effects. But people turn these principles around for
their own convenience.
Questioner: Does eating meat affect one’s spiritual
thinking?
Dadashri: Of course! Non-vegetarian food is rather gross, and
does not allow the development of one’s spiritual intellect. If you want to
progress in spirituality then you must consume vegetarian food, which is light
and does not create intoxication. It also helps in increasing awareness. In
general people have no awareness whatsoever!
Foreign
scientists cannot understand what I am saying and it is difficult for them to
believe it, although they do say that it merits consideration. I tell them that
it will take a long time for them to understand it, because they have consumed
so many chickens and other meats. Eating meat creates a dense covering over the
Soul. For one to understand this Gnan, a pure vegetarian diet is required,
because the coverings from the vegetarian diet are comparatively thinner and so
one is able to maintain higher awareness.
Does
Eating Meat Lead To A Birth In Hell?
Questioner:
It is said that by eating
non-vegetarian food, one is born in hell.
Dadashri: That is absolutely true. Why must you
slaughter animals for food when there are plenty of other edible things? Do you
not think that the chickens suffer when they are slaughtered? What about the
chickens’ parents? Do they not
suffer also? What would you do if someone ate your children? A meat-eater does not even get to think
about all this. It is nothing but primitive animalistic behavior, a state of
thoughtlessness. We as humans are
supposed to be thinking beings. Just one day of eating meat can destroy the
human mind and turn it into a bestial one.
If you want to keep your mind clear, you must stop eating all
non-vegetarian food including eggs.
In
eating meat, you are taking on the liability of taking a life but even greater
liability is incurred from the increase in the veils over your Self. There is a liability for the taking of a
life, but it falls primarily on the person involved in the meat business i.e.
the butcher, the owner of the slaughterhouse etc. The consumer of the meat is
accountable to a lesser degree, but in eating the meat, his internal awareness
is diminished, and it compromises his ‘grasping power’, which in turn becomes an
obstruction to his ability to comprehend this Gnan.
One’s
Life Form Is Dependent On One’s Karmic Account.
Questioner: Can a violence person be conceived in
the womb of a non-violent mother and vice-versa?
Dadashri: Yes, quite easily! You can be
non-violent in this life and be violent in your next life. If you are born to
parents who are violent, the environment around you will make you violent.
Questioner: Why is that?
Dadashri: If you are non-violent and you are to
reincarnate in the animal kingdom, you will be born a cow or a buffalo
(vegetarian animal). If you are violent in this life you will be born as a
tiger, a cat or any other carnivorous animal, if your karmic accounts calls for
an animal birth. Even if you are non-violent as a human, you can still take
birth in a violent family where your upbringing will be fraught with violence.
This all has to do with your karmic accounts. This is all related to your likes
and dislikes, your attachment and abhorrence. When a person does raag
(attachment) or dwesh(abhorrence)
towards others, he becomes bound and as a result will be born in close proximity
with those types of people.
Nothing
Affects The Non-Violent One
Questioner: What is the karmic connection when
a dog bites you?
Dadashri: Without a karma connection, even a
single mustard seed will not enter your mouth!
Questioner: Would it then mean that we have a karmic
tie with that dog which bit us?
Dadashri: No. You have not bound karma specifically
with the dog that bites you. For
that matter, even people ‘bite’ one another, do they not? One man told me that his wife was like a
serpent because she kept 'biting'
him at night. What he really meant was that she had a sharp tongue and would say
vicious things to him. The consequence of interacting with someone in such a
manner would be a ‘dog-bite’, or ‘bites’ from others. Everything in nature is
ready to deliver the consequences for your actions. Nature is prepared to
deliver the effects of whatever karma you have bound.
So
if you want to be free from all the suffering in this world, you must not
retaliate towards those who hurt you.
If you hurt someone even slightly, then in your next life, the effect of
the karma caused will not leave without taking revenge against you. The revenge
may come in countless ways. A snake may even bite you. You cannot afford to
create any vengeance with anyone in this world. And whatever suffering you experience,
it is the result of your own past wrongdoings; where you have hurt others. Otherwise, there would be no suffering
in this world.
Questioner: So is life a perpetual
conflict?
Dadashri: Yes, but if you create an atmosphere of
ahimsa, nothing can harm you. Not
even a snake or a tiger will harm you.
Even if someone were to throw a snake at you, the poor creature will
leave you unharmed. You cannot imagine the tremendous power behind ahimsa. The power of ahimsa is unparalled. There
is no greater weakness than that of violence. All the suffering in this world is due
to violence. Tremendous violence.
Not
a single living being has the power to hurt you, and the one that does, does so
because of your own karmic account.
So settle all your accounts.
If someone hurts you or something bites you and you develop bitter
feelings of revenge, you will be binding new accounts. When a dog bites you, if
you feel within, ‘ all these dogs should be killed’, then you have created a new
karmic account. No matter what the circumstances are, you should handle the
situation with equanimity, without any attachment or abhorrence. You should not
feel any negativity from within.
Questioner: But in these situations, our awareness
fails us and we are not able to maintain our inner
equanimity.
Dadashri: It is very difficult to cross the ocean
of this worldly life and that is why I give you this Akram Vignan (the shortcut
path to Self-Realization).
Who
Is At Fault - Butcher Or The Meat-Eater?
Questioner: If a butcher has taken this Gnan, but
continues his work as a butcher and wants continue doing this, what would happen
to him?
Dadashri: But what is wrong with the occupation of
a butcher? What fault is it of
his? If you were to ask a butcher
why he chose such a profession, he would say that his forefathers had the same
business, which is why he is doing the same thing. He will tell you that he is doing it for
his livelihood and to provide for his family. If you asked him whether he enjoys his
work, he would tell you that he does not. More than the butcher, the person who
eats the meat is at fault. As far
as the poor butcher is concerned, that is his occupation. If he were to come to me, I would give
him Gnan. And there is nothing
wrong if he takes Gnan. The Lord
has no objections to this.
Pigeons
– Pure Vegetarians
People
keep pigeon-houses in India, but why are there no crow-houses, parrot-houses or
houses for sparrows? It is because only pigeons
are pure vegetarians; they will not touch anything that is non-vegetarian,
including decayed grains. A decaying grain will have subtle five senses life form within. People worry about
what the pigeons will eat in the rainy season and that is why they feed them
with grains. The pigeons are completely non-violent. The pigeons do not cross
this boundary whereas man has done so. The pigeons have the warmest of blood and
a tremendous capacity to understand and it is all because they are pure
vegetarians.
Humans
are not the only consumers of fruit; even the cows, the donkeys and the
buffaloes eat fruit. These animals
will not touch meat even if they were starving and so they are indeed more pure
vegetarians than mankind.There is no need for people to boast about being pure
vegetarians. People cannot compare
themselves to these animals when at times they succumb to eating eggs, while
these animals would not even touch eggs.
One should not take pride in being a pure vegetarian nor should one
criticize those who are non-vegetarians.
Eggs:
Vegetarian or Non-vegetarian?
Questioner: Some people even argue that there are
two types of eggs. Eggs with life
and eggs without life, so can we eat the latter?
Dadashri: Yes they argue that there are eggs,
which do not contain life, and therefore technically it is non-violent to
consume them. I tell them that it
is impossible to eat anything that is non-living. One cannot eat anything that does not
contain life. If eggs did not
contain life, they would be considered inanimate and therefore inedible. One can only eat living things and
moreover, only those living things that are not spoilt. Even vegetables become inedible after a
few days after picking. One can
only eat living things. There is no
truth in the statement that an egg has no life in it. It is a wonder that people have created
such a concept. Anything that is
non-living cannot be eaten.
Questioner: But these ‘vegetarian eggs’ do not
develop further into a chick.
Dadashri: That is a different matter, but there is
indeed life in them.
People are being misinformed. This issue
has become a difficult one for Jain children to accept. So many of them argue with me about this
and I simply tell them that they should give this more thought. There is no
problem if there is no life in it, but you cannot eat anything that is lifeless.
If you are eating the egg with the idea that it is void of life, then you should
also stop eating grains and only eat food that does not contain any life. Food
that does not contain life will satisfy hunger but it does not have any
nutritional value and it will not nourish and sustain the body. The children
accepted this fact and agreed to stop eating eggs altogether. People will listen if one takes the time
to explain things to them; otherwise there is so much misinformation out there
that one’s intellect is led astray.
All
foods contain life, but The Lord has told us humans to consume only certain
foods. He has drawn limits as to
which foods are allowed and which are forbidden. You must not harm or eat any
thing that runs away from you in fear.
Questioner:
An egg does not run away from us in fear, so is it permissible to eat it?
Dadashri: The egg does not run away, but the life
contained within the egg is in a state of unconsciousness and dormancy. Will
this life not be apparent when the egg begins to hatch?
Questioner: Yes, we will discover that
immediately. But what if it does
not hatch?
Dadashri: That is because life in it is in a
dormant state. Whether or not it is going to hatch into a chicken is a different
matter. Even the human fetus at
four to five week is in the same state as the egg, so you must not harm the egg.
As humans we know what happens to the egg after it
hatches.
Milk
: Vegetarian or Non-Vegetarian?
Questioner: Just as one should not eat the
‘vegetarian’ egg, one should not drink cows’ milk.
Dadashri: You cannot eat eggs but you can drink
cows’ milk, eat yogurt and some can even eat butter made from that milk. No
restrictions have been placed on these.
The Lord had forbidden some people to eat
butter, but that was for a different reason for specific persons. You can make
puddings and sweets from that milk. Even if some scriptures forbid this, I will
tell you that those scriptures are wrong and that there are no restrictions. Go
ahead and enjoy them but take care not to overeat.
Questioner: But nature had intended the milk for
calves, and not for us.
Dadashri:
That is completely false. Only the calves of the wild cows and buffaloes drink
all their mother’s milk. People
however, feed and nurture cows so that both the calves and the humans can
benefit from the cows’ milk. This
has been the practice from time immemorial. If you feed a cow well, it can produce
up to fifteen liters of milk a day. If you feed it well it will produce more
than the normal amount of milk so you will not be depriving the calf of its
share. And the calf must not go hungry.
Killing
A Carnivorous Animal
Questioner:
There is violence in killing any animal, but is there also violence in killing
animals that kill or hurt others?
Dadashri: Your intention should be not to do
violence against any living entity. Even if you do not kill a snake, there will
always be someone else who will.
You may not have the strength to kill it but there will be many who will,
so do not spoil your good intentions. There is no advantage in violence of any
kind; it only harms you.
Survival
Of The Fittest
Questioner: Humans live by using their intellects,
so they should not hurt other lives. Some animals prey on others. The difference
between animals and humans is that only humans have intelligence. What about the violence taking place within the animal
kingdom?
Dadashri: You are not responsible for the violence
between animals. Violence is constantly occurring in the vast oceans, because no
farms or grain-stores are found there.
The larger fish sit around with their mouths gaped open and the smaller
fish just swim into them. That is the law of nature, and no one is responsible
for it. In the world, the larger life forms prey on the smaller ones and the
smaller ones prey on the smallest.
That is how the world operates. Everything is allowed until one acquires
human being with discriminatory intellect. No one in the animal world tries to
rescue the smaller life forms, while some human attempt to save animals.
No
Harm For The Absolute Non- Violent One
Questioner: But even non-violent people are being
shot.
Dadashri: A true non-violent person can
never be harmed. Even if he were to be shot at from every direction, he would
remain unscathed. Only violent people will be affected. Such is the inherent
nature of everything.
If
only ahimsa was there in this world, people would take advantage of the
situation. In this era peoples’ minds have become ruined. The people of this era
have many bad habits and there is no telling what they are capable of doing. The
very presence of guns acts as a deterrent to violence and promotes ahimsa.
The
current era is changing everything around us, and a better time is
approaching. You will witness this
yourself.
Questioner: You just said that a non-violent person
can never be hurt, so then why was one of the saints murdered even though he was
practicing ahimsa?
Dadashri: Whom can we call a true non-violent
person? A true non-violent person
does not interfere with anything or with anyone. Such a person never takes sides because
if he stands up for one party, the other will feel hurt and this is violence.
One should not get involved in anything like this; one must not try to practice
justice. An non-violent person never passes judgment. Where judgments are made, violence
occurs.
If
you were to practice absolute non-violence, it would be impossible for anyone to
attack you. Such a non-violent
individual would not utter even a single word of partiality. If one were pressed
he would utter words that would cause the least harm. When you take sides
between two parties, you will invariably cause violence against one of
them.
Sacrifice
Of Life Forms In Religion
Questioner:
In many temples, people offer a sacrifice
of an animal to the deities. Is that a sin or virtue?
Dadashri: When you ask the person making the
sacrifice, he will claim that he is doing merit karma. If then, you ask the
animal being sacrificed, it would reply, ‘ he is
a murderer’. The deity would tell you that he does not accept anything for
himself, nor can he refuse the offering that is placed at his feet to be
blessed. So leave alone the issue of sin and virtue! The liability of everything
that you do falls on your own shoulders, so think before you act. You can make
whatever offerings you want, but understand that you are whole and sole
responsible for all your actions.
Prayer
Filled With Non-Violent Intent: Ahimsa
From
now on your deep inner intent and prayer should be to promote non- violence
towards helpless animals and promulgate this belief as much as you can. If a person’s religion allows him to eat
meat, while yours does not, there should be not be any friction or confrontation
over this. Such intent within prayers will result in a non-violent society. This intent should remain within
you day and night.
You
all do have the deep intent for salvation of the entire world at all times, do
you not? Like wise have the same
intent for non-violence.
Questioner: We can at least pray for that, can we
not?
Dadashri: Yes, yes. do the you can prayers, keep
the intent and encourage others to do the same. It is important that you make
others understand this. Violence is not something new, it has been occurring all
along.
Having
heard about reputation of the prominent Saint Kabir, sage Tulsidas who was a
Brahmin, sets off to visit him in Delhi. Kabir’s hut was situated in an area
where there were many butchers and meat vendors. On his way there Tulsidas
witnessed the slaughtered of fowl and
goat carcasses hanging in shops around. He had never been in such an
environment and he kept spitting as he walked along, barely able to watch what
was going on around him. Tuslsidas had not become accustomed to face such gross
and foul smelling environs, and therefore he felt trapped. t He was so
perturbed, that when he reached Kabir’s hut he poured out his feelings to the
Saint. Tulsidas asked Kabir why such an elevated soul as he should choose to
live in the midst of butchers. Kabir who was quick-witted and renowned for his
ability to compose spontaneous verses replied:
“
Kabir’s home is in the market, near the throat cutters:
The doer will suffer the
consequences, why are you so sad?”
Tulsidas
immediately realized that all his spiritual knowledge until now had been in vain
and he was humbled.
One
should learn to face the world like Kabir. Violence of all forms is rampant all
around us and has been happening from time immemorial. Even Lord Ramachandra’s
servants ate meat; they were all Kshatriyas and eating meat was a natural
practice for them. Our intent must remain non-violent.
You
should maintain this non-violent intent and not become swayed by the mentality
of the violent people, because they create conflict due to misunderstanding.
That is why nothing gets resolved and more harm is done. One can only enforce
ahimsa against animals if one’s ruler or government has the same view and
decrees that people observe vegetarianism on certain days. At the present time
you do not have any power over the matter and furthermore, no one is asking you
to actively enforce ahimsa. No one
dies in the eyes of the Lord. You should just go about minding your own business
and encourage non-violence. Do not harbor any negative
feelings.
The
Highest Ahimsa
Instead
of worrying about saving the lives, you just maintain the inner intent not to
hurt any living being to the slightest extent. This hurt should not be caused
through the mind, through the speech and through any acts. There is no greater
ahimsa than this. With such an intent and awareness, should you accidentally
hurt any life form, it is vyavasthit (scientific circumstantial evidence).
Protecting
All Life Forms From Fear
Questioner: We stopped eating root crops ten years
ago in order to give protection to the life forms so that they would not be
afraid of us.
Dadashri: Such protection from fear should be
given to life forms that move; those that discern fear and flee for their
safety. Otherwise what can it mean to those that do not understand fear? One should give protection to life
forms that experience fear, such as ants that sense fear when they are
obstructed with a finger. Grain does not sense fear so how can you give it
protection for fear?
Questioner:
That’s very true.
Dadashri:
So far, people have been practicing
ahimsa without understanding it. This is like
swallowing the medicine that was intended for external use. People then say that
Lord Mahavir’s medicine does not work and they blame Him and religion when it is
due their own foolishness. They do not use the medicine the way the Lord
prescribed. Religion is never wrong.
Questioner: We did not understand all this
before.
Dadashri: Yes, you did not have a clear
understanding of the prescribed methods.
Life forms that sense and feel fear are the ones that flee from you. The
Lord has spoken about these life forms because they perceive fear. These are the
ones that need protection from violence. Elsewhere He has said not to waste
water unnecessarily. You are free to use water to take baths, drink it and wash
clothes etc.
Protecting
Life From Fear-The Highest Charity.
Questioner: So why is there such a great emphasis on
protecting life from fear in Jainism?
Dadashri: Many who understand non-violence have
placed great emphasis on protecting life from fear. Protecting life from fear is the main
thing. What is protecting life from
fear? An example of this would be to take care not to disturb any birds if they
were sitting here, by walking very quietly. Another example would be to remove
your shoes and tiptoe past a sleeping dog. How can one be considered humane if
he instills fear in others? One
should not even startle stray dogs. Understand that you have failed to give this
protection if a dog is stirred from his sleep as you are walking by. Protecting life from fear means not to
any element of fear arise in any living entity.
Have you ever seen anyone that has such qualities? Protecting life from
fear is the highest of all charity.
When
I was twenty-two years old, I used to be very cautious so as not to startle any
sleeping dogs. I am constantly protecting all life from fear and if a person
learns to do the same, he would attain liberation. Generally people are inclined
to instill fear in others and threaten them. Everybody has learnt how to donate
fear. No one has learnt how to donate protection from fear.
Questioner: Is it not considered protecting life
from fear to make efforts to save these life forms?
Dadashri:
There is a tremendous liability for anyone that does this, because to do is
nothing but egoism. The Lord has only said that one should practice kindness
towards one’s own self. The scriptures mention just this much and no other form
of kindness. And if you take on the task of practicing any other forms of
kindness unnecessarily, you will incur liability.
That
is the egoism of practicing A
A
person here believes that when he saves an insect from death, that he has done
the saving. Do you how our people are? He abuses and curses his mother at home
and outside he goes about trying to save the life of an insect. What kind of
people are these anyway?
These
people should be sent into the ocean! What would people of such negative
intellect do there when every life in the ocean is either a prey or a predator?
The smaller fish are prey to the bigger fish, which in turn are prey to even
bigger ones. Such is the food chain
in the ocean. Now how would he use his intellect in such an environment? Who
will he save?
People
believe they are saving lives by advocating vegetarianism, but in the process
they feel hatred towards the butchers. If the butcher were asked why he chose
such an ignoble profession, he would say that his profession is his heritage and
he would question why you were belittling it, and would brand you as lacking
intelligence.
People
who eat meat do not exercise their ego in proclaiming, ‘I am killing this or
that.’ It is these people who make the false declaration of saving lives who are
the most egotistical. They brag and flaunt their ability to save lives by
saying, ‘we are saving cows and goats’. If you are really saving life, why not
save the life of your ninety five year old father at home? Is anyone able to do
that?
Question:
No, no one can do that.
Dadashri:
It is not in anyone’s control; so then why do they boast about saving lives? Not
even the butcher has any independent power to take a life; moreover there is no
human being who has any such independent power. The butcher who brags about the
number of animals he has slaughtered is guilty of egoism. Likewise the person
who states that he has saved so many cows is also guilty of egoism. What then is
the reality? According to nature neither the one taking lives, nor the one
saving lives, will attain liberation because they are both guilty of egoism
(doer ship). This may be acceptable in the relative world, but not in
reality.
Two
Types Of Egos
According
to the laws of liberation that The Lord has given us, egotistical people cannot
attain liberation. Some people have an ego about not drinking alcohol and some
have an ego about drinking it. Neither will achieve liberation.
People
who boast about not drinking alcohol are more egoistic than those who drink
it. The latter at least, admit to
their weakness. They will confess to being unworthy when they are drunk and
immediately come to their senses when someone throws a bucket of water on them.
The same is not applicable for those intoxicated with the illusion of this
world. Their intoxication will
remain with them through countless lives. Such people become conceited and say,
‘I am something, I am something.’
Once
there was a Jain merchant who had two sons: a three-year-old and a year-old
infant. When plague hit their village, the merchant and his wife died, leaving
the children alone. The villagers held a meeting to determine the fate of the
two boys. A goldsmith adopted the older boy, but no one was ready to adopt the
younger one. A man belonging to the lower caste came forward and offered to take
the infant. Some of the villagers protested, saying that it was wrong for a Jain
child to go into a family of low caste, but they ultimately conceded. When the
older child became an adult, he strongly opposed eating meat and drinking
alcohol. The younger brother on the other hand insisted that one should drink
alcohol and eat meat. How can the thinking of these two brothers differ so
much?
Questioner: Is it because of their upbringing.
Dadashri:
Yes, their upbringing. The
villagers asked a sage how it was possible that two brothers should have such
contrary beliefs and wanted to know which one of them would attain
liberation. The sage told them that
liberation was a completely different matter, which could not be applied to
either of the brothers because they were both egotistical. One had an ego about
not drinking alcohol or eating meat and the other had an ego about doing both.
To attain liberation one has to be without ego.
Exclusively
For Those Who Revere Non-Violence
What
people nowadays believe is not what the Lord has proclaims as the truth. The
Lord is very wise. He said that not
a single being exists in this world that can kill another being, because
everything is governed by vyavasthit (scientific circumstantial evidences). How
can a person kill another when, in order for a person to die, so many
circumstances have to come together?
But at the same time, He also said that this fact should be kept
absolutely secret. Some found this statement contradictory with regards to
non-violence. They would say, ‘you teach us not to harm even a single living
being and now you are saying this?’ The Lord said that this information is only
meant for those who revere non-violence. It is not for those who practice
violence. Such individuals would misuse the Lord’s statement and feel that they
have a license to kill. They would create misery all around by developing inner
intent of violence. Therefore this matter can only be discussed with those who
revere ahimsa.
The
Lord has said that one should not have the ego for either committing violence or
for practicing non-violence. If you kill someone, you are really killing all
reverence for your own soul. You are committing violence against yourself. The
Soul does not die, but you are committing violence against yourself, which is
why The Lord has forbidden it. On
the other hand, if you try to save lives, you will be doing so with ego, which
is also violence against your self. In both instances, one is doing something
wrong. Why not stay out of this
predicament?
In
reality no one being can kill another, but if The Lord had stated this fact
openly no one living thing is able to kill another, people with ego would claim
that they are able to kill. No one has the strength to do this, but nevertheless
people have the false notion (vikalp) about it, which is why they are
perpetually caught in the cycle of birth and death. All the Gnanis have
witnessed the way the world functions. People have so many false beliefs, so how
can they be free from them?
No
single living entity takes the life of another living being. Despite this the
Lord tells us to abandon our violent ways and practice ahimsa. What He really
means for us is to abandon the ego of killing; nothing else, for it is truly
false ego. In reality nothing ever dies so why then do you claim to kill? You incur a tremendous liability because
of your ego and that ego will lead you into an abyss of endless suffering.
No
living being has the capacity to kill another being. The Lord did not proclaim
this loud and clear because some would stand and proclaim, ‘I just killed
someone.’ The Gnanis have seen how the universe runs.
Let
the life form die at the hands of its own nimit (the entity instrumental in the
death of that life form). It is going to die anyway so why must you
unnecessarily have the ego of killing?
It is to put a stop to this kind of ego that The Lord has encouraged
ahimsa. The Lord gave ahimsa to the people so that they would stop exercising
the ego of killing.
Questioner: Is this not too much knowledge for the
average person to comprehend?
Dadashri: Yes it is a lot, which is why it has not
been divulged. On the contrary, The Lord emphasizes to all people to save lives,
which would otherwise perish.
The
Science Behind Protecting And Killing.
The
killing, protecting and saving of lives is relevant only to the relative world
and not to reality. In reality no one living being can ever kill another life
form. No man can independently kill of his own volition. Killing only occurs
when all the scientific circumstantial evidences come together. None of these
evidences are under anyone’s control. No human being is independently capable of
protecting another life form either. Only if the scientific circumstantial
evidences are present, can lives be saved. People are being egoistic about
saving lives. The Lord also says that one must eliminate any inner intent to
want to hurt or kill another living being, because this intent is one of the
evidences. It is when the evidence of intent comes together with all the other
evidences that an event materializes. So intent is one of the many
evidences. People however; take on
the responsibility for all the other evidences by claiming with ego that the
event occurred entirely because of them.
Death
Happens At The Correct Time
I
am disclosing a very subtle fact here that no living entity can ever be killed
unless the time of its death is correct. For example, if a man has seven lambs
and he has to sell two of them, only the two for whom the time of death is near,
will be sold. Why is it that only the two are chosen, when he is equally fond of
them all? The lambs too will merrily go along with the butcher. It is because their time of death has
arrived. At the slaughterhouse when the lambs are painted for identification,
they feel happy because they think they are being decorated for some
festival. This is the way of this
world. It is worth understanding all this.
Therefore,
no one dies without his or her appointed time of death. But if you have an
intent to kill, you are actually committing violence against your own self. A life form will only die when the time
for its death is right and when all the circumstances come together to produce
the actual event. So many evidences that are not visible to the eye come
together and only then will that life cease to be. A person may feel responsible
if he accidentally kills an insect, but how can he be held liable when he did
not have the intention to kill in the first place? He will insist that he killed
the insect because he stepped on it, and I would then ask him to whom does the
foot that crushed the insect belong?
It does not belong to the Soul, his Real Self and therefore he is not
responsible. Even if the foot
becomes paralyzed, it does not affect the Soul. Only the Gnani Purush can give
you a clear distinction between what is real and what is relative.
The
time of death is not in anyone’s hands, but The Lord has not divulged that there
are other causes behind any death. There are some types of knowledge that are
not divulged. Had the Lord stated these aspects of life and death clearly, many
would have been able to understand and benefit from it. He has spoken about it,
but people do not understand it. This is because the Lord has given all the
answers and they can be found in the sacred texts, but one has to read countless
volumes before one arrives at the essence that I am giving you here. The Lord’s spoken words were pure gold,
which Gautam Swami (Lord Mahavir’s premier prominent disciple) made ornate and
elaborate. Only when someone like
Gautam Swami is around can this ‘gold’ be extracted from these scriptures. Only
when such a person can extract the pure essence of the Lord’s spoken words, will
our work be done!
Make
A Firm Resolution Never To Kill
Some
people make a strong resolve not to cause even the
slightest of violence towards any living being. With such a resolve, no
living entity will be hurt at the hands of such people. Even if such a person were to trample on
an insect, the insect would survive. If however, a person makes intent to kill
insects, then all the insects that are meant to die will come his way.
The
Lord has clearly stated that no living entity can kill another. People question
this, when they witness life forms killing each other. The explanation behind this is that the
killing only takes place because the time of death has come for the life form
that dies, and the one that kills has made the intent to kill. So when the timing of death and the
intent to kill as two of the many other evidences come together, the killing
happens. Only when it is time for the life form to die will it meet up with the
person who has made the intent to kill. This person will be instrumental in its
death.
This
is a very subtle fact If only the world would come to understand this!
Questioner: What about people who are crushed to
death in a train accident? How can a train have the intent to kill?
Dadashri: The train does not need any intent, but
it is the intent of those who die, which is at play here. In the past, these people had made the
intent that they did not care how they died. When people have such intents, their death will result
accordingly. It is because their intent is their karma. But they cannot die
prior to their appointed time of death.
Now
the point you need to understand is that unless the time of death approaches for
any life form, it cannot be killed. Furthermore the timing of death is not in
anyone’s control.
Violent
Intent: Very Prevalent In India
Questioner: Will it not take a long time to spread
the correct knowledge and understanding of ahimsa?
Dadashri: Even if it takes a long time, one cannot
expound on it completely because of the nature of this world. This world is completely immersed in
violence. There is nothing but an
inclination towards violence, which is why this could not be achieved. There is
however, some readiness to practice ahimsa but not everyone understands it.
Questioner:
But is there not a subtle intent of non-violence behind one’s efforts to try and
save life forms?
Dadashri:
Saving the life forms is not subtle, but
overt non-violence. Subtle ahimsa
is not easily understood. How can
one understand it, when one cannot even understand overt ahimsa? People practice
overt ahimsa A naturally, because they are born into it as a result of their
past lives. They practice ahimsa against the smaller life forms but at home
these very people, without exception, do nothing but violence.
Questioner: In the western world there is violence
in almost everything they do, in eating, in drinking, in all acts. They kill
flies and mosquitoes and use pesticides on their lawns and farms. How will these
people attain liberation?
Dadashri: Alas! Indian people commit even greater
violence. All day long they commit violence against the self by their kashayas,
anger ,false pride, greed and illusion. This is called intent-violence. It is
subtle.
Questioner: But the people in India are doing
violence only against their own self, whereas in other countries they are doing
violence against other life forms.
Dadashri:
No.
Indians do violence against everyone; against whomever they come into contact
with. Their ways are devious and
crooked. People in other countries are happier. The people of the western world
never have thoughts about hurting others; they are very gracious and always
willing to help. Indian people
however, are opportunistic; they will first analyze a situation to see how they
can benefit from it, and only help others if there is something in it for them.
All
of India is guilty of intent-violence, which in the eyes of the Lord is the
gravest violence of all.
Questioner:
But
in India there is so much emphasis on ahimsa.
Dadashri: Even
so Indians are the most violent, because they bicker and quarrel all the
time. Why is this? It is because
they have greater awareness of the relative world. Their children however do not have as
much intent-violence because they have started to eat meat. A non-vegetarian
diet decreases awareness and consequently does not cause as much
intent-violence. People with
increased awareness commit tremendous intent-violence. They bicker over very
trivial things.
Intent
Is Independent; Result is not
Questioner:
Nevertheless,
these foreign people are doing violence all the same.
Dadashri:
Intent- violence is independent, whereas effect-violence is not. The result of
intent violence in the next life is not under anyone’s control. Their
non-violence today is the result of their past life intent. What they do today
is not their real effort.
This
type of ahimsa is directed towards only those life forms that are visible to the
eye. It is not wrong. The Lord has said that if one were to practice ahimsa
outwardly, it should be directed towards both the gross and the subtle life
forms alike. More importantly one should ensure that one does not commit
intent-violence towards one’s own self. People are constantly committing
intent-violence; they even talk about it and yet they do not understand what it
is.
Intent-violence
is subtle and people cannot perceive it, whereas effect violence is visible to
all. All the violence that is perceived through one’s thoughts, speech and acts
is an effect.
Save
Yourself First From Intent-Violence
The
Lord has said that the highest non-violence is that which does not hurt the
soul. This means total lack of any kashaya. Any form of kashaya hurts the soul.
He also said that you must make sure that no intent-violence is occurring within
you. Nowadays, however, just the
opposite is happening and that is why one must first stop the intent-violence.
Effect violence is not under anyone’s control, but we cannot say this openly. In
fact, this can only be discussed with people who revere ahimsa. That is why
the Lords did not disclose everything. If people were told this, they would
ruin their future lives, because they would get a license to proceed with
violence . They would proclaim that
since effect violence is not in anyone’s hands, there is nothing wrong with
killing. This very intent violence is what needs to be stopped! The Lords
displayed tremendous wisdom in not disclosing all this; they did not mention a
word of this. What wisdom! What
purity! They sanctified the ground
they walked on.
Intent-violence
can only be contained when effect violence is stopped, but of the two,
intent-violence is more important.
The Lord had said for us not to be preoccupied with the
violence-non-violence of the life forms. He said that one can become truly
non-violent only when one stops intent-violence.
Defining
Intent Violence
According to the Lord, what is the
highest violence? The Lord says,
‘we do not consider the actual killing violence. But the intent to kill made by the
person is violence.’ This is indeed the highest violence. People on the other
hand only blame the person who is instrumental in the act of killing. The actual
act of killing is an effect carried out by vyavasthit. They are totally unaware
of his intent violence. The most important thing of all is not the act of
killing but the intent within. It is ‘vyavasthit’ that kills the life. A person
is merely being egotistical when he claims that he did the killing. The person
who does the intent to kill is really the guilty one and in making this intent,
he becomes the real killer.
All
you have to do is to have the intent that ‘ let no living being be hurt through
the medium of these thoughts, speech and act’. After that should any violence
happen, you are not held liable. You should however, sincerely repent and ask
for forgiveness so that you do not incur any liability.
People
do not have the capacity to understand the subtlety of this point and from where
will they acquire such an understanding? It would be disastrous if someone were
to discuss this outside of this satsang. I cannot tell this to the public at
large; one can never say such things in public, do you understand?
Intent
non-violence means that one will never have the intent that he wants to hurt or
harm another living being. You are
only required to have such a intent; an intent whereby you do not want to hurt
any living being in the slightest, through the medium of your mind, speech and
actions. Only the intent is
important here and not the act or the deed. Besides, how can one save lives
through his actions? Even the mere act of breathing, destroys innumerable lives!
And in a single movement of the body countless life forms die as they collide
with it.
Kashaya:
The Highest Violence
One
commits self-violence when one does kashaya (when one has anger, false pride,
attachment and greed), whereas the other violence is against the external life
forms. Intent-violence is the violence against one’s self. Such violence through
kashayas creates bondage for the self and it is for this self that you must have
compassion. The Lord has said that
one must first have intent non-violence towards one’s own self and then towards
others.
The
killing of animals, insects and the smaller life forms is called effect
violence. And to inflict mental anguish on others or to become angry with others
is intent-violence. No matter how hard one
tries, non-violence is not easy to practice. In fact the real violence is anger,
false pride, attachment and greed. Effect violence continues according to the
laws of nature and no one has any control over it.
Kashaya
is the highest violence and that is why The Lord has said that first and
foremost, one should not have any kashaya. This type of violence is called
self-violence or intent-violence.
If effect violence occurs, let it occur but one must not allow
intent-violence to occur at any cost. Instead,
people try to stop effect-violence and continue to do intent-violence.
If
a person were to resolve in his mind that under no circumstances he wants to kill any life form, then he
will not be instrumental in causing the death of any life form. There are those
who on the one hand take a firm stand to stop the effect-violence. They may be
able to stop killing insects overtly. However if they use their intellect to
take advantage of others in their business dealings, they are continuing intent
violence through their greed. This
is all violence!
You
should conduct yourself in such a way that no living entity should run away from
you in fear for its life. There should not be any act of aggression towards any
living entity nor should it be made to suffer even in the slightest degree. And
as far as human beings are concerned, you should not have a single negative
opinion about anyone, because it is violence. Even a negative change of opinion
against an enemy is great violence. This violence is much worse than the violence in slaughtering a lamb. When you get angry with the people at
home, it is worse than killing a lamb: It is detrimental for the
self.
To
speak maliciously or gossip about someone is also violence. To utter anything
negative about a person in his absence is considered
violence.
There is also violence in partiality or
discrimination. People go around proudly proclaiming that they belong to a
non-violent group of people. This partiality in itself is the first violence. If
people were to understand even this much, it would be more than enough. One has
to understand what the Lord has said.
Destruction
Of The self Every Moment
Aarta-dhyana
(internal worries) and raudra-dhyana (thoughts or desire to hurt other people)
is constantly occurring within human beings. These do not require any effort,
they are happening, and because they cause self-violence, they are considered
the greatest forms of violence in the world. Violence against insects and life
forms is called effect-violence. Which is better?
Questioner: Neither violence is good, but
self-violence is worse.
Dadashri:
While all these people are cautious about material, effect-violence,
self-violence is continually occurring within..
The scriptures say that self-violence is really intent-violence. After
acquiring this Gnan, your intent-violence ceases. That is why you experience so
much inner peace.
Questioner:
Krupadudev has called intent-violence, ‘intent-death’ (death of the self), has
he not? Krupadudev had asked “From
moment to moment, why are you involved in such terrible intent-death?” Is there really intent death in every
moment?
Dadashri:
Yes, each and every moment there is dreadful intent-death happening. What is he
trying to say? Actually, intent-death is taking place not from mmomemnt to moment, but
continuously in the smallest unit of time.He has given a gross description of
the frequency of intent-death, which in reality is occurring all the time. The
belief ‘I am Chandulal’, is intent-death. In any situation, to
believe that ‘it is happening to me’, is intent-death. People are immersed in this belief all
the time. They say and believe that they are the ones who are fasting and
meditating or performing austerities.
Questioner: So instead of intent-death, how can we
have intent-life?
Dadashri:
Intent
is not living; it is non-living.
Intent-death is the same as intent-sleep (a state of unawaren of the Real
Self.). In Akram Vignan there is no basis for intent;death, because intent has
been separated from the Self. People in the kramic path are perpetually in a
state of intent-death.
Krupadudev,
being a Gnani Purush, was the only one who understood intent-death, and hence
had to constantly be on the alert because he could see that everyone around him
was in a state of intent-death.
What
is the meaning of intent-death?
It signifies the death of the Self (s and the birth of non-self (the
worldly self). In any event or a
situation, the sense of ‘I am this or that’ is the birth of non-self and ‘I am
the observer of this event’, is the birth of the Self.
Those
who commit violence against the physical bodies may find redemption, but there
is no hope for those who commit violence against the self. No one ever explains the subtler facts,
only the gross issues.
Effect Non-Violence Increases
Intellect
Everyone
including Muslims, Christians and Hindus are in aarta-dhyan and
raudra-dhyan. What is the
difference amongst them? Indians experience more of these adverse meditations
because they are practicing effect non-violence at various levels. This is
because their intellect increases with such practice. In this era, increase in intellect increases sin and sinful
binding of karma. People with an increased intellect take advantage of
those with lesser intellect and that is violence.
The
foreigners and Muslims do not hurt anyone with their intellect. Only the people
of Hindustan hurt those with lesser intellect with their intellect. It is only
in this time-cycle that this extra nuisance has
arisen. Intellect is required
to hurt. Who are these people with such intellect? They are the people who
practice effect non-violence, those who do not eat edible roots and those who do
external worships of the Tirthankars. But what good is such an
intellect?
Questioner:
You
are doing injustice to these people.
Dadashri:
I
do them no injustice. It is this increased intellect that harms them and I have
written this in my book. If I do
not say things exactly as they are, people will move further away from the
truth. It is very dangerous to use your intellect to take advantage of others.
Should intellect be abused in this way? And those with less intellect have less
kashaya.
Those
who practice ahimsa from birth believe that it is wrong to hurt any life
form. This is ingrained in their
belief and their spiritual vision. People with such awareness have sharp
intellects.
Questioner: Are they considered gentler because they
practice ahimsa from birth?
Dadashri:
They are not considered gentle. The fact that they practice ahimsa in this life
is really the result of their past karma. Their increased intellect is also a
result, but they use this intellect to hurt and exploit others. If you were to commit a murder, it would
cost you perhaps one more lifetime, but when you use your intellect to hurt
others, you will be doomed and you will destroy numerous lives to come.
Greater Violence: Fighting Or
Kashaya?
In
the days gone by, it was the wealthy businessman of the village who had the most
intellect. If a conflict arose amongst the villagers, he would invite both
parties to his home and help solve their dispute in an amicable manner. One of
the villager’s reason for the conflict was, ‘ I owe him two hundred rupees. But
I only have fity’. The businessman would reply, ‘ Here is a hundred and fifty
and return it later.’ He would then invite both of them to have a meal with him
and then let them part happily. He would not take advantage of the situation.
This does not happen nowadays. On the contrary, people would exploit such a
situation.
I
am not accusing anyone. In fact I
see the entire world as being innocent and flawless. I would look upon a person
faultless even if he were to beat or insult me. I am talking about the worldly
life. If you do not understand how to work in the relative world, how will you
solve your problems? And unless you acquire that understanding from the Gnani
Purush, nothing will help you.
Questioner:
Even a small child in our group practices non-violence. Is it because of the
values instilled in him from his previous
lives?
Dadashri:
Yes,
without a doubt. They have these
values today because of their merit karma and values that had been instilled in
them from their previous life. But if they were to abuse what they have today,
do you know where they are headed?
Questioner: They are only practicing ahimsa,
how are they abusing it?
Dadashri:
How
can you call this ahimsa? There is
no greater violence than the kashaya done against human beings. Show me anyone that does not do this. A
person that does no kashaya at home is practicing true ahimsa. To do kashaya all
the time and simultaneously claim to practice ahimsa, carries with it a great
liability. People with a lot of awareness do the most kashaya. In comparison
with the Indians, people of other countries do lesser kashaya. You would think
that those with less awareness do more kashaya. It is not so. Do you not think
that any kashaya is wrong?
Questioner:
Yes, absolutely.
Dadashri:
Yes, there is no violence worse than kashaya. Kashaya itself is violence. This ahimsa
that people practice is really something they are born with because they had
made such a intent in their previous life, which has now come into effect in
this life. It is only when one’s anger, false pride, attachment and greed cease
that one really stops violence.
Questioner: That’s right. I understand. It is written so in the scriptures. The
emperors in India did much violence when they fought battles, but they were not
bound by kashayas, which would bind them for
infinite lives. It is only when one follows the
wrong guru, the wrong religion and the wrong saint that one becomes bound by
kashayas for infinite lives.
Dadashri:
Yes,
there is nothing else that binds one endlessly. This is well known in the
scriptures.
Abuse
Of Intellect: ‘Hard’ Adverse Meditation
Questioner: But are there not different types of
karma in all this?
Dadashri:
Yes,
but what is hard here to understand? Even a small child can understand this. For
example if you were walking in the dark with a lantern and someone else was
walking with a small oil lamp, then you would tell him, ‘ here let me shine this
brighter light for you.’ Would you not share your light with him? The intellect
is such a light. Should you not share it with those who have less of it by
guiding them and giving them helpful suggestions? Instead the people in this era
are just waiting to pounce on their prey at every opportunity. This is why I
have stressed and warn people against such adverse meditation. This level of
adverse meditation never occurred in the previous time-cycles, but it is
occurring in this one. People are abusing their intellect. Everywhere,
merchants, businessmen and affluent people are cheating others with lesser
intellect.
Merchants
with more intelligence cheat their customers. The Lord has said that to cheat
someone with lesser intellect is serious adverse meditation and the result of
such acts will lead to a birth in hell. Under no circumstances should one abuse
his intellect.
The
intellect is a light. Would you charge someone for sharing this light with him?
People are guilty of adverse meditation when they abuse their intellect. They
will not attain liberation. They will pave their way into hell. Such grave
adverse meditation has never occurred before; we only see it in this present
fifth era of the current time cycle. It is a terrible crime to hurt someone with
one’s intellect.
Even
now there is some time to correct this situation by sincere repentance and
resolving never to repeat such deeds. Otherwise there is no hope for such a
person.
Simply
This Much Will Make You Non-Violent
You
should not have any violent intent in your mind. Your intent not to cause harm to any being should be
constant, within you. Each morning before you begin your day, you must ask for
the strength to not hurt anyone through the medium of your mind, your speech and
your actions. This will ascertain a lesser liability for you. If you were to
accidentally step on an insect, you are not responsible, because today your
intent is not to kill. The Lord is concerned with your intent and not your deed.
According to the laws of nature, it is the intent that is the most important.
The world however, only considers the deeds of a person. The deeds will remain
here but it is the intent that will help you progress further. So keep a
constant vigil on your intent.
Recite
the following prayer five times each morning:
‘Dear
Lord, give me the strength not to hurt even in the slightest degree, any living
being with my thoughts, my speech and my acts.’
In
doing this you become non-violent. With such an intent, even if you were to
engage in a quarrel with someone, you would still remain non-violent, because
you have already made a strong resolve not to hurt anyone. If you do hurt
someone during the day, you should reinforce your resolve by recalling all the
transgression, repenting for them and resolving never to repeat them. When you
do this much, you will no longer be liable.
Such
intent not to hurt any living being is equivalent to having accomplished the
supreme vow of ahimsa (one of the five major vows called mahavrats). You have to
make a decision that you want to maintain this intent and thereafter you should
remain sincere to it at all costs. When you do not adhere to your decision, it
is called anuvrat.
Beware!
There Is Violence In Sex
If
the Lord were to describe the violence associated with sex, a person would die.
According to the general belief, there is no violence involved in the sexual
act. I do not chastise anyone about this. In the sexual act, violence combines
with attraction and this leads to the violation of all the five supreme vows.
This results in the commitment of much sin. Although one does not want to do any
violence, millions of life forms are killed in the sexual act. Also adverse
meditation happens.
Sex
is the cause of this worldly life.
All other subjects of outward pleasure are not harmful, when the sexual
inclination is conquered. Nothing else creates such an obstacle. If one became
indifferent to sex, one could reincarnate as a celestial being. Having conquered
the sexual weakness, one can go on to conquer all other weaknesses. Indulging in
sex leads to birth in the lower realms of life, such as the animal kingdom.
As
long as a person engages in the relative world, and is sexually active, he
continues to remain violent. A man who has a sexual relationship with a woman
other than his own wife will have to face grave consequences. Adultery leads one
to a birth in hell and such a person has no hope for another human birth. The
same applies for a woman.
Should
people not practice some sexual discipline even in their homes? Sex with one’s
own spouse is not improper, but one should also understand that countless life
forms are destroyed in a single act of sex. This violence should not be taken
lightly. Here also, sexual activity must not happen without a cause. There are
countless life forms in the forms of human seed in the semen, so one needs to
exercise much caution in this matter. I am being very brief regarding this
matter, because there is no end to this otherwise.
Violence
beyond the mind!
Ahimsa
means not to have a single negative
thought about anyone, not even for one’s own enemies. Even for an enemy the
non-violent person holds feelings for his spiritual and physical well being.
What good is any other kind of non-violence? To have bad thoughts is the tendency of
the prakruti (the complex of the mind, speech and body and it’s attributes) but
to turn it around is one’s own purushaarth (independent highest endeavor).
If
a non-violent person were to fire an arrow at someone, his victim would not
bleed. In contrast, a violent man would cause bleeding in the other even if he
threw a flower. Neither the arrow nor the flower is itself ‘effective’, but it
is the intent behind the act that is ‘effective’. This is why my constant intent
is that no one should be hurt in the slightest manner by my speech, my thoughts
and my conduct. And from these words are flowing under the umbrella of this
intent. The work is not being done by a thing, it is not being done by an arrow,
it is not being done by a flower. It is only the intent through which it works.
The intent is the medium through which all things happen.
Akram
Vignan states that a person should not use even his thoughts as a weapon. How
then can anyone use any other weapon? How can I wield any weapon against other
life forms when I have never once resorted to using even my thoughts as a weapon
against even the smallest of life form? At times I am given to speak a little
harshly, but such harshness is like the subtle difference between raw and
refined silk. Such speech only
comes out very rarely. I have never used my speech as a weapon nor have I ever
used my thoughts in that way.
I
have never used my mind as a weapon against even the smallest of life forms.
Even if a scorpion were to sting me, I would not raise any weapon against it. By
stinging me, the scorpion would be fulfilling its obligation, without which
there would be no liberation for me. I can assure you that I have not used my
mind as a weapon against any living being. Although it is the nature of the mind
to retaliate, I assure you that I have not used it in this way.
Questioner:
You must have realized that there
is no use for this weapon of the mind.
Dadashri: Yes. A weapon is of no use at all. The thought that a weapon might be
necessary has never crossed my mind.
Since the day I laid down the ‘sword’, I have not picked it up again. I
would not pick it up even if my opponent had a sword. This is the path one will
ultimately have to come to. Those who find this world burdensome and want to
break free from it will have to travel this very path: no other paths are
available.
One
simply has to master ahimsa in order to accomplish everything else. The power of
ahimsa is such that even a lion and a lamb will stand side by side at the
waterhole.
Questioner: Was it like that during the time of the
tirthankaras?
Dadashri: Yes. One cannot even describe what it
was like during those times. If the world understood even a single sentence of
these tirthankaras, it would have sanctified it and put it into practice.
Unfortunately, the world did not comprehend the message behind those words, and
furthermore, no one is around to explain.
Questioner: Dada, but you are
here.
Dadashri: How much sound will my little flute
create?
The
Power Of The Gnani’s Ahimsa
How
does the Gnani Purush deal with the world? He is so non-violent in his worldly
dealings that even the most ferocious tiger would become pacified and shy away
from him. Such is the power of ahimsa. The world has already witnessed the
effects of violence. through people like Hitler and Stalin. Just look at the
outcome, everything came to an end; nothing lasted.
Violence:
Non-Violence Together
Questioner: Is there violence where there is
non-violence?
Dadashri: There can never be any violence where
there is complete non-violence, otherwise it is called partial non-violence.
When you cut a papaya into many slices, all the slices will have the same
sweetness, not a single slice will be bitter. Similarly, there is no violence
where there is complete non-violence. Partial non-violence and partial violence
is a different matter altogether.
Questioner:
Is partial ahimsa considered kindness?
Dadashri: Yes,
that is called kindness. Kindness is the root of religion. Where there is
absolute kindness, there is absolute religion.
Beyond
Violence And Non-violence
Questioner:
Where
there is kindness, there is also cruelty. Does this apply to violence and
non-violence?
Dadashri: Yes.
Non-violence exists because there is violence and vice-versa. However, one will
have to stop violence and embrace non-violence, and then go beyond even
non-violence. One has to go beyond
this duality. Ultimately one will
have to go even beyond non-violence.
Questioner:
Beyond
ahimsa? What sort of a state would
that be?
Dadashri: The very state that I am in right
now. I am beyond violence and non-violence.
Ahimsa is based on the ego and I am without any ego. ‘I am practicing ahimsa or violence’ is
the ego. I am the observer of the entity that practices violence and
non-violence. I simply observe the ego. One can only be considered a Gnani if
one is beyond all duality. Most of these ascetics and priests are very kind, but
they can also be merciless. Because there is kindness within them, there is also
cruelty within them. If they have
eighty percent kindness they will also have twenty percent cruelty. If they have
ninety-six percent kindness, there will be four percent
cruelty.
Questioner: If there is 96% A, will there be 4%
violence?
Dadashri: The
final total will always be there and it will always speak for itself. If there is ninety-six percent ahimsa
then there would be four percent violence
Questioner:
So
what would be the nature of such violence?
Dadashri:
It is the violence of the ultimate stage. That person will know what is left and
will quickly dispense with it and become liberated.
The
Gnani: The Non-Violent One In The Ocean Of Violence
People
question me why I travel by cars even though I am a Gnani. In their minds they
hold that traveling by car involves much violence to small living forms like
insects etc. They also question who is held accountable for the violence this
entails. Now how can a Gnani be called a Gnani if he is not absolutely
non-violent? Absolute non-violence
here means totally non-violent in an ocean of violence!
People tell me that they have read my
books and they find them appealing and without any contradiction. They also tell
me that my behavior contradicts my message of ahimsa. I explain to them what the
Lord has said in the scriptures that the Self-Realized Gnani has no ownership of
his body and because of this he is not liable for the body’s actions. Secondly the Gnani does not renounce nor
take up anything. They did not understand the meaning of ‘not having ownership
of the body’, so I asked them why they thought that I commit violence in such
acts. One person asked whether it would constitute violence if he were to crush
an insect under his foot. I told
him that it is violence because he believes that it is his foot that steps on
the insect. I told him that I have no ownership over this body and hence there
is no doer ship in the act.
He
wanted me to give him examples and define what a person owns and what he does
not. I gave him the following example: There is a vacant plot surrounded by
shops in an affluent area of a town. Someone has informed the police about
hidden excise goods buried there. The site is overgrown with vegetation after
the rainfall. The police start to dig and they unearth the goods. They arrest
Laxmichand who they were told was the owner of the land. Laxmichand tells them
that he was no longer the owner and that he had sold the land two weeks ago.
When the new owner is interrogated, he protests to being accused and tells the
police that he had only bought the land a fortnight ago, while the goods must
have been buried before the rainy season on account of the grass growing over
it. The police however are only concerned about the present-day ownership of the
land and although the new owner purchased it only fifteen days ago, he is still
held responsible because he is the owner now. The problem is with the ownership.
If one were to look at it as it is, it was obvious that the goods were buried
before the rain. Past ownership has no value or responsibility. Current owner
bears all responsibility.
“I am Chandulal” is being owner of the body and hence responsible for all
its acts. “ I am pure Soul” is the State of the Gnani where is no ownership at
all and hence no liability of violence at all.
You
will only find a resolution when you understand everything from such detailed
perspective. How else can this puzzle be solved?
“It
is a puzzle. The world is the puzzle itself. How can one solve this puzzle? There are two viewpoints to solving this
puzzle: One ‘relative’ viewpoint,
one ‘real’ viewpoint."
If
one does not solve this puzzle, then one will become dissolved in it, like
everyone else in this world.
Questioner:
By saying ‘I am not the owner of this
body’ will people not exploit situations and do as they please?
Dadashri:
No, people would not admit to this
openly. Would a person not immediately become an
owner of his body if someone were to slap him? Even if someone insulted him,
would he not immediately assume ownership and retaliate? Would his reactions not
prove that he becomes the owner? One cannot accomplish anything by merely saying
it. One would have to have the experience of it.
Questioner: But is it not a sin to travel by car
because of the violence involved?
Dadashri:
The world is full of sin. It is
only when one ceases to be the owner of one’s body, that one becomes sinless.
Otherwise as long as a person is the owner of the body, everything that he does
is a sin.
Many
life forms are killed during respiration. And when we speak we send thousands of
life forms colliding to their deaths. Even the movement of one’s hand causes
death to so many life forms. Although they are invisible, they are still being
killed. And therefore it is all sin.
The
ownership over one’s body ceases with the realization of ‘I am not this body’
and one becomes free from all sin. As for myself, I have not had ownership over
this mind, this speech or this body for the past twenty-six years. There is no
responsibility left, since the ‘ownership documents’ have been destroyed, which
is why I am completely and absolutely non-violent. I perpetually live as The
Self, the ‘home department’. I am absolutely non-violent in the ocean of
violence.
Questioner: Does one become non-violent after taking
this Gnan?
Dadashri:
In giving you this Gnan, I have made you Self-Realized. Now, violence will not
touch you provided that you follow my Agnas (Five cardinal instructions to
maintain liberated state). If you make a strong decision to follow my Agnas, you
will reap tremendous benefits. This will lead to final enlightenment. How can
violence touch someone who is non-violent?
Questioner: Violence does not affect those who
experience the Nine Kalams (Dada’s prayer of nine principles) in their everyday
lives.
Dadashri:
Violence does affect them, but if they
recite the Nine Kalams, the violence that they have done up until this moment,
is erased. However, if a person follows the five Agnas, violence does not touch
him at all. When he abides by my Agnas, he is completely separate from the
physical body, even while immersed in the ocean of violence. The body, because
it is solid matter becomes an instrument of hurt for many life forms. Even a
single movement of one’s hand destroys so many life forms, whereas the Soul,
which is extremely subtle, cannot harm any living being. In my books it is written that although
I live in the 'ocean of violence', I am completely non-violent. There is no
violence in my mind. At certain times my speech is a little harsh and therefore
violent, but then the speech is merely a ‘tape-recorder playing’. Although I am not the owner of this
speech, but because the ‘tape-recorder’ is ‘mine’, I am at fault to an extent
and for this I do pratikraman.
Questioner: Through
the medium of your non-violent words, we all mahatmas (Dadashri’s Self-realized
followers) are becoming non-violent.
Dadashri:
You are non-violent if you follow my Agnas. If you find this too difficult, tell
me so, so that I can change them for you.
The
Keval Gnani (The Fully Enlightened Being) Manifests Where There Is Absolute
Non-Violence
The
highest religion is the one where a person is able to acquire the knowledge of
the subtlest understanding of non-violence. Keval Gnan is associated with absolute
non-violence. When you encounter a religion where violence ceases, be assured
that such a religion is right.
The
world is not devoid of violence at all.
The world itself is violence. When you become non-violent, the world will
become non-violent too. Without the reign of absolute non-violence, one’s
awareness would not be complete and Keval Gnan is not possible. There should be
absolutely no violence in this state. The supreme divine One resides in every
living entity. Who will you hurt? Who will you harm?
The
Science Behind The Ultimate Ahimsa
As
long as you hold that, ‘I am picking this flower and I am committing violence’
then the laws of violence will bind you. The same laws also bind the people who
do not have this awareness. It is only when you revert to your real Self that
violence will not affect you under any circumstance. Such a realized person is
also very aware of violence in the relative world.
Emperor Bharat who had thirteen thousand
wives had to fight a lot of wars. In spite of this he was able to remain in his
enlightened state. How did he manage to do that? What spiritual knowledge did he
possess? Nowadays a man with just one wife gets frustrated.
Emperor
Bharat expresses to Lord Rushabdev, ‘Lord, I am fighting this war in which so
many lives are destroyed. Besides
the violence to life is not minor. I am killing human beings. Why do I have to
do this violence?’
Lord
Rushabdev replies, ‘This is all a result of your past karma, which you will have
to settle.’
‘But
I too want liberation. I do not want to sit around and wait’ the emperor
beseeches.
To
this, Lord Rushabdev says, ‘I am giving you this Akram Vignan. This science will
take you to liberation. Despite living with your queens and engaging in wars,
nothing will affect you. You will
be able to remain absolutely untouched and separate. Such is the Gnan I am
giving you.’
Suspicion
Perpetuates Mistakes
After
this Gnan, one becomes a Pure Soul. When one understands the nature of the Self, all negative
karma or violence that happens, is not part of the Self. Such an individual has
complete awareness of the Pure Soul.
As
long as one doubts and feels
responsible for the acts of violence, one should ask ‘Chandubhai’ the relative
self to recite the following prayer five times each morning: ‘I do not want to
hurt any living being with my mind, my speech or my body. This is my absolute resolve’. When you recite this with Dada Bhagwan
as your witness, all the responsibility will then be His.
Those
of you who have no doubts need not worry. I have no doubts, but it is natural for
you to have them because this Gnan has been given to you. There is a tremendous difference in the
way a man relates to his world when he has gone through life earning and
laboring for money and another whose money has been handed to him.
In
reality the Soul that the Gnani Purush has come to know, can never hurt anyone,
nor can it be hurt by anyone. And this is nature of the Real Self.
Suffering, Non-suffering And The Self
A
man once asked me what he could do to be able to tolerate the mosquitoes. I told him to sit and meditate and just
observe the mosquitoes if they bite him. He insisted that he could not do that,
so then I told him that whenever a mosquito landed on him, he should say, “I am
beyond suffering; suffering is not my nature” In this way, he would gradually
come nearer to his ‘home
department’ (the Real Self). And after going through this experience of mosquito
biting a hundred to two hundred times he will attain the non-suffering state.
What
does it mean to be a non-suffer? It means to know that the mosquito has bitten
the body, and where it has bitten. He does not have any suffering. In reality,
the Real Self does not experience any suffering, but whatever apparent suffering
he endures, is because of his previous habit of saying that the mosquito has
bitten him.
You
need to understand completely the state of the Pure Soul. This will happen by
constantly remaining in this satsang. For now, you can get by with just
repeating that you are Pure Soul. Doing this will stop the binding of karma.
When you become free from the false belief that you are the body, you cease to
bind karma.
Questioner: So, when a mosquito bites me, should I
simply say, “I am not the sufferer?"
Dadashri:
Yes. If a mosquito lands on your arm while you are sitting here, your initial
experience will be the knowledge that it has landed; you will become aware of
this. At this precise moment are you in the state of awareness or are you in the
state of suffering? What do you think?
Questioner: When
it sits on my arm, I am aware of it.
Dadashri: Yes, and that same state of knowledge is
also there when it bites you. But when you say, ‘the mosquito bit me!’ you
become the sufferer. In reality, you are not the sufferer. You are only the
knower. When the mosquito bites you, say ‘I am the non-sufferer’ and when it
bites you more, repeat, ‘ I am the non-sufferer.’
Questioner:
You
have talked about the non-sufferer, but then you have also mentioned eternal
bliss.
Dadashri: You cannot use the word ‘the bliss of
the Self’. It refers to a very high state of being, the ultimate state. For now,
you should simply use the word ‘the
non-sufferer’. By using this word, your suffering
will decrease. It will not cease immediately.
Bliss of The Self means
Gnan: The Knowledge itself. One is purely in the ‘knowing’ state. The sting may
hurt intensely but the Real Self is merely the Knower of the event and does not
experience any suffering at all.
Questioner: Is the reaction of, ‘the mosquito bit
me’, that follows the mosquito bite, the same reaction that is acknowledged in
the bliss of the Self?
Dadashri:
Yes. He is the Knower of that too. The One is the knower of the one who says,
‘the mosquito bit me.’
Questioner:
When you asked us to say, ‘ I am not
suffering, I am not suffering’, then people around would think that the
suffering is gone.
Dadashri: No,
that is not so. He is the Knower of
the suffering as well, but people do not have the capacity to remain in the
‘knowing’ state when they experience suffering. But if he were to utter, ‘I am
not the sufferer’ the suffering would not affect him. The inherent nature of the
Soul is that it has no suffering, so that when one says, ‘I am not the
sufferer’, he remains truly unaffected. The state of the Bliss of The Self is
much higher. As one begins to remain in the
state of awareness, one moves towards this state. In that state, not only does
one have the knowledge of the sting, but also the knowledge of when the stinging
stops and the departure of the mosquito from the site of the sting. In the state
of no suffering, one is able to tolerate the sting without the suffering.
Questioner:
Can one come to know The Self through the bliss of Self?
Dadashri:
The Soul is bliss eternal. You have ‘taken’ this Gnan,but the old ego and
attachment that you have brought from your previous life does not leave
easily.
Questioner:
The
One who is Bliss Incarnate, is his vision complete and
absolute?
Dadashri:
Yes it is complete and absolute but that state cannot be attained in this time
cycle. A vision of three hundred and sixty degrees happens in full
enlightenment, Keval Gnan. This bliss state is not attainable in this
era.
Can
Mud Taint Light?
Are
you aware of the light of the Self? If the headlights from a car fall on the
sewage, would the light rays be affected by the stench? Will the light take on the color of the
sewage?
Questioner: No.
Dadashri:
So
then can this light become tainted with mud?
Questioner:
No.
Dadashri:
The
light can touch the mud, but the mud can never touch the light. Even the
headlight of a car has such properties, what would the light of the Soul be
like? It can never be smothered or tainted at all. That is why the Soul is eternally
unaffected, uncontaminated, pure and remains separate. Nothing touches it and nothing sticks to
it: That is what the Soul is like!
The
Self is in the form of light, but not this kind of light. I have seen that
light. It is indeed a light. A wall
can obstruct the light from a car’s headlights, whereas nothing can obstruct the
light of the Self. Even walls and mountains cannot obstruct it. Only the living body is capable of
obstructing the Self.
Questioner:
Why does the body obstruct it?
Dadashri:
Because the living body is a mixture of matter and the Self. If there were only
pure matter in the body, it could not be obstructed.
Questioner: Your example of the light and sewage was
very pertinent.
Dadashri:
Yes, but I only give it occasionally.
Generally I do not use that analogy with everyone because it may be
misconstrued and lead people astray.
The Self-realized One Is Absolutely
Non-Violent
Dadashri:
Now
if moonlight illuminated the roads, would a person drive car if it had no
working headlights?
Questioner:
Yes I he
would.
Dadashri: And when he turn on the lights he would
see a myriad insects whirring around in the beam, bashing against the vehicle
and being killed, but until then he are not aware of the insects being killed.
With the lights he is filled with the doubt that, ‘I am being violent. I am
killing insects.’
So
many people do not have the ‘light’ at all, which is why they do not see the
insects or question the fact that violence is taking place. People see by
whatever ‘light’ they have. As the light increases, they will see that many
insects are being killed. In the same way, as one’s awareness increases, one is
able to see more and more of one’s own faults, otherwise one is oblivious to
them. The Soul is the light. When it touches the life forms, it does not harm
them because it passes through them effortlessly. This is because the insects
are gross and the Soul is extremely subtle. The Self is absolutely non-violent.
If you were to remain as the Self, then you would also be absolutely
non-violent. But if you become the owner of the physical body, then you enter
the world of violence. When you have this realization, how can you be held
liable for any violence? That is why after becoming the Pure Self, karma can
never bind you.
Questioner:
So then even after committing violence of life forms, karmas cannot bind
us!
Dadashri:
Violence cannot happen. When become the Self, violence is
impossible.
The
person who attains Self-Realization is beyond all applicable laws. The laws of
the world remain as long as one is identified with the body, and hence is liable
to cause karma. No law of any scripture, no karma of any kind, and no violence
of any kind touches the Self –realized one.
Questioner:
What is the religion of ahimsa? Does it arise spontaneously?
Dadashri:
No it does not arise spontaneously. Non-violence is the nature of the Self, and
violence is not the nature of the Self. In fact, ahimsa is not the innate
property of the Self. Like all other dualities it becomes evident in the One who
has attained the Self.
It
is extremely important that you understand all this. This is ‘Akram Vignan’, the
science of all the Vitarags, the twenty-four Tirthankaras! Because you have not
heard of it, you will wonder if such a thing is really possible. If you have any
doubts about its validity, then you will fail to accomplish your goal. Your goal
will only be accomplished in the absence of doubts and
questions.
The
nature of the Self is so subtle that it can penetrate fire and yet be
unaffected. So tell me how can any violence affect it? Violence affects those
who identify with the physical body and believe the physical body to be their
real self. If violence were to affect the Soul, then there would be no
liberation for anyone. But everything is beautifully arranged for
liberation. You may not understand
this from where you stand, but when you attain Self-Realization, this entire
science will open up to you!!
Jai
Sat Chit Anand
The
Awareness Of The Eternal Is Bliss
taroj
hu bhavo bhavno rooni…param purush vitarag
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